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HEY DAN BARKER PLEASE BE QIUET WERE GETTING REAL TIRED OF YOUR STUPID BARKING SO SHUT TO HECK UP BEFORE WE GO AND KICK YOUR TEETH DOWN YOUR STUPID SELF CENTERED ATHEISTS THROAT

Seems to me they want the offical religion to be atheism de facto. And as usual the Orwellian left changes "Freedom OF religion" to "reedom FROM religion."

Hey now, I'm an unbeliever (destined to be the among the first under the sword when the diaperheads come) but not a proselytizing one. These bozos are just throwing a tantrum to get attention, like so many of the moonbat groups. Personally I'm fine with prayers and invocations, even at official government events. If that's what gets you through your day/life, no skin off my nose.

This separation of church and state thing has been taken all out of context. All the constitution says is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" That's it. I don't see how having a prayer or posting the ten commandments (most of which are some damn good rules to live by even if you're not into the whole God thing) in a courthouse has anything to do with Congress making a law.

I've often wondered...who will they sue if the incoming president uses the phrase in question because HE chooses to?

Barker, Newdow et al. need to get a life.

I would say the same about Madeline Murray O'Hare, but I believe she lost hers mysteriously some years ago.

I agree, Mr. Evilwrench-

Separation of church and state isn't from the Constitution. It's quoted from a letter Jefferson wrote in 1802. It was first used by SCOTUS in 1878.

I've always found it amusing to see how much time, effort, and energy atheists put into fighting something they don't believe exists.

Atheists, when they grow old, usually panic when they become aware their logic leads them not to Hell but to oblivion.

oldguy

Oldguy, exactly my point to why atheism is irrational. The existence of God can never de definitively proven or disproven. If you choose to believe and you're right, you gain everything. If you're wrong, you've lost nothing. If you choose not to believe and you're right, you've gained nothing. If you're wrong, you've lost everything.

Actually the existence of God could be proven - for if God exists, a God capable of creating an entire universe and life itself could make itself known if it wanted to. Proving God doesnt exist is impossible since its impossible to look everywhere to verify God's non-existence (including locations outside our universe).

Its also possible God / God's civilization no longer exists if it destroyed itself or was destroyed. Kind of the way it is with humanity - humans scientists even now are playing God creating new forms of life and we could end up destroying ourselves in the process via something like vacuum energy detonation or anti-matter explosion or even complete annihilation by nanobots (von Neumann machines).

http://tech-news-update.com/top-10-ways-to-destroy-earth

Say we create a biosphere on some moon like Europa or Titan, complete with life forms we design, play God - then destroy not only ourselves but the entire Earth leaving little evidence we ever existed. Even our space probes would decay and turn to dust or be destroyed after the millions of years it might take for our creations to develop space travel. That would be a major downer.

Anonymous, I see the point you're making, but your thinking (as will all humanist/athiest thought) only allows for a created, temporal "god".

The whole point of religious thought is that a "creation" must have a "creator" outside the limits of said creation. The scientists that are struggling so hard with the "big bang" (the latest thought being that we bumped up against another universe and stuff came rushing into our time/space "bubble") still misses the point: where did it begin? Stuff had to come from somewhere, no?

A parable:

A man asked the wise teacher "How is the earth held up?"

The teacher responded "The earth rides on the back of a giant turtle."

"But", asked the man "what holds up the turtle?"

The wise teacher said "You can't fool me with that old question. It's turtles all the way down!"

Dont you get a little tired of these self centered atheists jerks like MICHEAL NEWDOW and DAN BARKER trying to force their stupid atheisim on us all? WHAT THEY NEED IS ABOLT OF LIGHTNING IN THEIR FANNIES

All they need to do is take it to the 9TH CURCUT COURT OF STEAPEDHEADS and they,ll get what they want

Sob...Whimper... Whimper... Whine-whine-whine... Whimper... WAAAAH!!! WAAAAAH!!!

That is the mating call of the moonbat.

Phil Gramm was right, we are a nation of whiners, and he get's chastised for telling the truth.

What can be expected from people that obviously have not been able to discipline themselves to change the TV channel, the radio station or not read things that might upset their religious sensitivities and superior intellect. They do have that choice. If you don't want to hear the prayer at the inauguration then don't listen to it.

These are guys that are miserable and the only way they are happy is if everyone is miserable... then and only then can they feel normal.

Atheism is a religion. Just as atheists religiously brush their teeth, they religiously deny God. They force their religion on others just as surely as a Baptist is bound by doctorine to proclaim their belief to others.

The difference is - Atheists want to make their religion man's law, whereas Christians feel their religion is already God's law and it is man's choice to accept it or not.

Moral of the story: Christianity is a choice, radical atheists want to take away that choice and force their religion through law - which is clearly against the Constitution. (Which is why liberals HATE the constitution.)

Both groups are sincere. One group is sincerely wrong.

I might add - Christianity is NOT a religion, but a FAITH.

I have faith that Jesus Christ is who He says He is. It's not a religious thing. I just have FAITH, and it comforts me.

After what Dan Barker did in setting up an insulting sign by a Nativity display, now he's crying about other people "subjecting" him to beliefs he doesn't subscribe to.

What a phony, and a sissy to boot...eat your own medicine, Barker.

Atheism is just another belief system or religion if you like. And it seems all owners of belief systems want to force their beliefs on to others.

Genuine atheists wouldn't care one way or the other. The activists ones just hate their mothers for making them go to church, hehe.

Paulster stole my thunder; anytime I have taken an oath: enlisting in the military, taking appointment of government office, in court, etc., I have always had options to having to state "so help me God", "I swear" and so on if I chose not to. If these atheists were forced to have to swear to God, then I could understand their arguments.

I was an agnostic/borderline atheist for most of my adult life, and have recently found religion again, and the expression of religion never bothered me during that time; I had bigger and better things in my life to worry about.

I'm so tired of all this all-inclusive society that we now live in, where the lives of the majority are decided for by the few sniveling extremist fringes of minority groups (you chose the topic).

As a Catholic priest just interviewed on Fox stated, these people are out to make atheism the national religion for the U.S. If they want that so badly (when the majority of us don't; 96% of us practice some type of religion according to last survey I saw), there are plenty of places around the world (North Korea, Iran, et. all) where they are free to go and live in a religion free public.

I listened to an interview the mouth-breathing bigot Dan Barker did with Medved last night. It was disgusting. The guy sounds just like Ibrahim Hooper. A smiley faced totalitarian bigot with his eyes on the prize: the destruction of this country.

Ok, so an atheists religion is a lack of religion. They want to eliminate the references to religion in public. Therefore they want to force everyone to adhere to their religion.

The founder of the ACLU was a confirmed communist and what soclaist ties dose a slimebag like DAN BARKER have?

Atheism = religion
religion = excuse to bleat about persecution

Do your maths people! Follow the modus tollens: if you call atheism a religion (which about 80% of commenters here have), give religious the people the privilege of forcing their will on others then lousy, smelly poo-poo headed (etc) atheists will jump on the wingey, whiney, I want everything my own way bandwagon along with Christians and Muslims! (Although they will have to work VERY hard to catch up!!!!!)

Let's hope if they get to stage of suicide bombers they become agnostic; “Allah might be Akbar, but we don't know for sure. Perhaps Allah is, if Allah is Allah...” you'll have more time to flee from an agonstic suicide bomber than from a Muslim suicide bomber (Allah Akbar!) or an atheist suicide bomber (“Allah is not Akbar!)

I don't know why you American anti-moonbats are so obsessed with these one in a hundred thousand weirdo atheists; I spend much much more time worrying about the SLIGHTLY MORE COMMON extremist Muslims!!! (As do a lot of other people in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.) When Richard Dawkins is the most “militant” atheist the world media can bleat about I'm kinda more afraid of tube bombing Muslims!

Check out this Grauniad article to see what I'm talking about: Secular fundamentalists are the new totalitarians (search Google).

ThePissedOffAtheist