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November 14, 2008

The Catherine Vogt Experiment

Catherine Vogt, a 14-year-old in liberal Oak Park, Illinois, conducted a fascinating experiment by wearing a "McCain Girl" T-shirt to her 8th-grade classes and recording the reaction:

People were upset. But they started saying things, calling me very stupid, telling me my shirt was stupid and I shouldn't be wearing it.
One person told me to go die. It was a lot of dying. A lot of comments about how I should be killed.
In one class, I had one teacher say she will not judge me for my choice, but that she was surprised that I supported McCain. Later, that teacher found out about the experiment and said she was embarrassed because she knew I was writing down what she said.
[A student] said, "You should be crucifixed." It was kind of funny because, I was like, don't you mean "crucified?"

Other suggestions included that she be "burned with her shirt on" for "being a filthy-rich Republican." She was told that supporting McCain meant advocating the assassination of Obama. Those who had anything positive to say about the shirt had to whisper conspiratorially.

Phase 2 of the experiment called for wearing an "Obama Girl" shirt the next day. Needless to say, the reaction was friendlier, as Catherine was welcomed back into the herd.

When liberals gloat sanctimoniously about "inclusion," what they mean is, we will all be included in the Obamaborg — no exceptions permitted.

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It's safer to be absorded into the herd. Via Republican Soldier.

On a tip from V the K.

Posted by Van Helsing at November 14, 2008 9:52 AM

Comments

"Give me four yeats to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."


Vladimir Lenin

Posted by: TED at November 14, 2008 10:22 AM

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."


Vladimir Lenin


(Sorry didn't catch the spelling first time.)

Posted by: TED at November 14, 2008 10:24 AM

Liberals started taking control of schools via unions then they spent the last 30 years indoctrinating young people not HOW to think, but WHAT to think. The fruits of their labors have resulted in a Socialist/Marxist President and Congress.

Once might think this will all lead to people waking up as they realize what a failure that road is. But with the socialists in control of the schools, most of the media and government - nothing short of total collapse will shake people out of their complacency. Ask any Eastern European.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 14, 2008 10:51 AM

They should keep politics out of school. What they should be doing is teach the political process. I wonder if the people that were giving here a hard time aabout the shirt were African American. You know She was Caucasion. There much more of this bias going on now. Even the teachers are doing it.

Posted by: Watching at November 14, 2008 11:01 AM

No indication from the story as to whether any of the kids that wished her to die or be "crucifixed" later cam and apologized for what they said, after it was revealed that this was just a social experiment.

Posted by: ToddonCapeCod at November 14, 2008 11:03 AM

OOoooooh Baaaaaah Maaaaah!
Sheep led to slaughter.

Posted by: C-Bug at November 14, 2008 11:09 AM

"filthy rich republicans" - let's dispel this heinous rumor right here and now:

rupert murdoch - snowjobama supporter

george soreass - snowjobama supporter

okra windbag - snowjobama supporter

colon bowel - snowjobama supporter

schpielberg - snowjobama supporter

bono - blah, blah, blah...

the wealthy typically SUPPORT republicans - that doesn't mean the republicans are the "filthy rich". these are the same arguments our children receive when confronted with below-average intelligence children at school when asked who they support and ours turn around and ask, "why do you support obama?" the answer they get 19 out of 20 times is, "because he's black and it's history!" - the other one out of 20 times is, "my parents support him."

i cannot count the times they've come home and asked, "are you SURE we're not filthy rich?"

Posted by: nanc at November 14, 2008 12:05 PM

This is sad. It goes both ways though. This hit the news today:

"A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote."

Strange considering the Pope himself has condemned the Iraq War as an unjust war and called for all Catholics to do their part to fight for it's end.

It's not okay when EITHER side does this, right or left. Voting how you want is one of our most fundamental rights. McCain supporters and Obama supporters should not be demonized or targetted for who they voted for. And instances like the story above and this story should be covered by the media more often.

Posted by: Joel at November 14, 2008 2:51 PM

The liberals scream bloody murder about conservatives being intolerent when in truth their the ones that are intolerent

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at November 14, 2008 3:17 PM

Don't worry, Joel. These stories are always covered in big ways by the major media... well, half of them anyway. Guess which half?

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 3:18 PM

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote."

Well Joel, I challenge Father Scott to figure out exactly "which parishioners" put their mortal souls in jeopardy. They are probably laughing at him and going on his blog and posting insults! LOL!!!! So much for separation of church and state, eh?

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 14, 2008 5:10 PM

Strange considering the Pope himself has condemned the Iraq War as an unjust war and called for all Catholics to do their part to fight for it's end.

While the late Pope John Paul II stated that the US invasion of Iraq did not qualify as a "just war" under the Church's just war criteria, neither he nor the present Pope Benedict XVI ever called for "all Catholics to do their part to fight for it's end." Benedict, during his trip to America this past spring, publicly reiterated that America has a moral obligation not to abandon the Iraqi people before their country is stable. While neither JPII nor Benedict supported the US starting the war, neither supported (nor still support) removing our troops before the job is finished.

Also, it is within a priest's rights to decide who should or should not receive Communion. No one has a "right" to receive Communion. It is a sacrament offered by the Church to those in communion with Rome and free of grave moral error. Whether or not Fr. Scott is right saying those who voted for Obama should refrain from Communion before doing penance, he most certainly has the right to say it.

In the future, it would be nice if those commenting on the Catholic Church or its clergy knew what the hell they were talking about.

Posted by: GeronimoRumplestiltskin at November 14, 2008 5:59 PM

WELL SAID "GeronimoRumplestiltskin"!

Posted by: TED at November 14, 2008 6:26 PM

In the future, it would be nice if those commenting on the Catholic Church or its clergy knew what the hell they were talking about.

As a Mormon, I feel your pain.

Well not pain really... contempt for the ignorance of leftist twits, to be more precise about it.

Posted by: V the K at November 14, 2008 6:36 PM

Brave little girl to wear the McCain t-shirt into thw bowels of Hell (her middle school) -- interesting reactions (gives the total lie to Liberal "tolerance," one of many such instances), but even more important, by wearing the Obama t-shirt, she clearly validated the sheeple's robotic adoration of the new Borg, President-Elect Obama, Lord of the Obamatrons -- and that's all that matters (not what Obama's gonna do, not what he and his pathetic friends like Ayers, Wright, Dohrn, et al., say and do - no, none of that even enters their numbed-down, dumbed-down brains), not the fact that the country's headed for the Third World and ultimately, sooner rather than later, take-over by its deadliest enemies).

If she REALLY wants to try a dangerous experiment, wear a "SARAH PALIN - 2012" t-shirt to school one day!!! Better take along a body-guard!

Posted by: jc14 at November 14, 2008 6:38 PM

"colon bowel"? ROFLMAO! Love it...thanks nanc

Posted by: fellowes at November 14, 2008 7:13 PM

fellowes - i'm just callin'im what the left called him for all those years...well, until he supported their guy!

Posted by: nanc at November 14, 2008 7:27 PM

Who is more afraid of what they said to the girl, the teacher or those who whispered their support when she wore the McCain shirt? I'm sure the whisperers are more upset they might be outed than the embarrassed teacher.

Posted by: eeyore at November 14, 2008 7:28 PM

"One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?"

--- Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career. Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:10 PM

This says EVERYTHING about how the left REALLY feels about free speech and tolerance and diversity and peace and love. These 8th grade children didn't acquire this pure evil hate all on their own. It was taught to them by their free speaking, tolerant, diverse, peace-loving parents.

Liberals are sick, sick puppies. I'm betting that Catherine Vogt grows up to be a conservative like her dad, and I bet her mom is embarrassed and may leave her liberal ways.

Proof's in the pudding, boys and girls.

BTW - you notice the resounding void of stupid liberal troll cowards on threads such as this?

Posted by: Jimbo at November 14, 2008 9:13 PM

"Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration..."

--- Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:16 PM

"With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged."

--- Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:19 PM

"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics."

--- Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career. Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University. Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System. Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:21 PM

"ThePatriot"...

How does "measuring equipment in satillite photos" make one an expert in discerning forensic evidence of explosive impacts?

Does that mean if I have a subscription to Car & Driver magazon and read them all day I can be an expert witness for damage caused in an automobile collision?

Your off topic comment makes you look pretty foolish. Sorta like a... Dipshit! :-)

Posted by: Jimbo at November 14, 2008 9:22 PM

"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break."

--- Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:22 PM

"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved in the destruction of the World Trade Center."

--- Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:29 PM

"I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 report is a joke. The question is: What’s being covered up?"

--- Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:31 PM

ThePatriot = SPAM ATTACK SPAM ATTACK SPAM ATTACK

Get a life, dipshit.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 14, 2008 9:33 PM

"I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. … The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them."

--- William Christison – Former National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis. 29-year CIA veteran.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:33 PM

TROOFER ALERT!

Yes, Moonbattery has arrived. We have a bonafide TrooferTroll!

I'll just chip in here....

"The very idea that somehow a massive conspiracy involving the WTC and the Pentagon, involving pre-planted explosives, 'faked' eyewitness accounts of, oh, ALL of New York, the CIA, NSA, GOP, & HIJKLMNOP, which has yet to produce ONE SINGLE INSIDER willing to speak out (as hundreds, if not thousands of individuals would have to be involved in some capacity)... well that's just as crazy as a rat in a coffee can."

-- hiram, Guy Who Doesn't Have His Head Shoved Up His Keester

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 9:38 PM

oh, forgot to add...

42-Year Human With Common F*king Sense Veteran

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 9:41 PM

Is GeronimoRumplestiltskin kind of like Tonto Bernstein?

Posted by: C-Bug at November 14, 2008 9:49 PM

"Even the most junior investigator would immediately know that the name and photo ID of Atta in 2000 is precisely the kind of tactical intelligence the FBI has many times employed to prevent attacks and arrest terrorists. Yet the 9/11 Commission inexplicably concluded that it 'was not historically significant.' This astounding conclusion--in combination with the failure to investigate Able Danger and incorporate it into its findings--raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself. No wonder the 9/11 families were outraged by these revelations and called for a 'new' commission to investigate."

--- Louis Freeh – Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for the Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in the United States Army JAG Corps Reserve.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 9:57 PM

"Believe me, cuz I know all about cover-ups. I helped Janet Reno cover up the Waco killings."

--- Louis Freeh – Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for the Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in the United States Army JAG Corps Reserve.

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 10:02 PM

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man,
and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
- Mark Twain

When the questions are painful, unpopular and bring harsh words...only the bravest among us will continue to ask them. And these brave are few. The Patriot has no party, has no PAC and backs no horse in the race. The Patriot is loyal to the people of this great nation; all of you included.

Posted by: ThePatriot at November 14, 2008 10:14 PM

Just as soon as they release him from the spaceship that abducted him to perform probes.

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 10:24 PM

Seriously, though, Patriot...

Though I poke at you, s'okay to speak your mind here (as warped as I might think it may be). The only problem is that this endless cut-and-paste-quote spiel is OFF TOPIC. This thread is about the article above (did you even bother to read it?), and I don't see what trooferism about Dubya and the CIA somehow convincing thousands of people to keep their mouths shut about "the real 9/11" (undoubtedly with help from the mind control beams we got from the space aliens in Roswell) has to do with a middle-schooler being verbally assaulted for wearing a pro-McCain shirt. Care to explain? Maybe I'm missing something.

There are open threads in which you can blather on and on and on and on and on and on about crap no one believes. This is not one of them.

Posted by: hiram at November 14, 2008 10:32 PM

What troubles me is how someone could wear one of those repugnant Che t-shirts without anyone making any comment whatsoever, yet McCain/Palin-shirt wearers receive threats.
The former shirt depicts a man who actually did want to impoverish people; how many people get on a makeshift raft and float to Cuba?

Posted by: Harris at November 15, 2008 1:03 AM

Holy shit. Do Troofers still exist? I thought reality and facts would have done away with them by now.

Posted by: Smoke TNT at November 15, 2008 4:30 AM

On the Che topic, I was once a bassplayer for a punk band named Smashpoints. (you might can find us on iTunes) Once in N.C. I had seen a kid with a Che shirt and a anarchy skull cap. I asked him, "well which is it?" He had no idea what I meant, even after explaining. This was far from the first time I encountered this contradiction. Bottom line is, Che supporters are idiots.

Posted by: Smoke TNT at November 15, 2008 4:49 AM

Smoke TNT,

I had a college kid renting my spare bedroom last year. He had a friend stay over one night who had a guitar case with a Che sticker on it. When I came downstairs and saw it I told him to get it out of my house. He didn't understand what I was talking about.
"Listen, that is as offensive to me as you bringing a swastika into my home. Do you even know who that is?"

Of course he didn't so I simply pulled up the Wikipedia article on Che and had him read several parts of it. The kid apologized, tore the sticker off, and threw it away. He had no clue who that despicable person was.

He can wear whatever shirt or paste whatever stickers he wants, but he can't do it in my house. I was glad that he was a reasonable young lad, however, and realized what he was doing. Only several million more to go...

Posted by: Harris at November 15, 2008 5:11 AM

Harris,

I'm amazed he even had brains enough to read what Che was about, considering the amount of moonbatty nonsense children are indoctrinated with minus a real education.

Posted by: bwahahahahah` at November 15, 2008 6:10 AM

hiram - that's how they indoctrinate people - you'd think that since they now have a leader, they'd just shut up and go away...

Posted by: nanc at November 15, 2008 6:19 AM

Hi folks, Fez here. Sorry I couldn't be here to post for a few days... had a pile of work to deal with. Still do.

In reference to the original posting, It sounds like she was attacked by a bunch of 14 year old kids, very much in the same tone, spirit, and level of intellect of much of the "reasonable debate" here in Moonbatville. So whats the big deal?

Posted by: fez at November 15, 2008 7:55 AM

The big deal is that these are 14-year-olds. They're in school. They're too young to have formed strong political opinions independently. If education were about learning how to think and not what to think, you would expect the reactions of the kids to be roughly 50/50 or relatively neutral. Of course, this was not the case.

These kids have been convinced that Obama is the Second Coming, and they have no idea why. That's what they've been told to believe, so they believe it. They've been turned into proto-sheeple. "Get 'em while they're young". Check out what Lenin & Co. had to say on the subject.

Posted by: hiram at November 15, 2008 8:38 AM

I suppose I should also point out that the persons you denigrate for their "tone, spirit, and level of intellect" are all Obama supporters. Do you think there might be a correlation here?

Posted by: hiram at November 15, 2008 9:06 AM

Has it ever occurred to to you, Hiram that very much of the tone of political conversation in this country has been set by Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, and Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham etc. etc. etc... who have a massive amount of airplay in this country... and don't give me the ditto-head mantra about the "media" being liberal... the majority of media is just big business, owned largely by conservatives who sell whatever sells without regard for its effect on society.

“Talk radio is ruining America.”-Trent Lott ....and I don't think he was talking about Air America.

I do think it's sad Ameirica can be so primitive, but you did hear McCain and Palin at work the last few months... yes? And its a surprise people hit back? They both at least deserve a few kicks in the ass... Palin especially.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 15, 2008 9:24 AM

I hate Sarah Palin. Also, I crapped my pants again, but at least my butt is warm.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 15, 2008 9:31 AM

Leave it to a moonbat to ask, "What's the big deal?" and completely miss the point of yet another posting.

What you are trying to practice, Fez, is called 'moral relativism', a method of taking a behavior that is objectively wrong (children telling a classmate she should die, be killed or be crucified for wearing a certain t-shirt) and comparing it to a behavior that is subjectively wrong (your idea that this website and the people on it somehow do the same thing).

I understand that you are obtuse and incapable of what most adults call 'critical', 'logical' or 'comparative' thinking. That is why you can read a story about a 14 year old girl being told to die for wearing one shirt then being praised for wearing another shirt and not see anything wrong with it.

For example, let's analyze Fez's train of thought:
A. Children tell a girl to die for wearing a politically unpopular t-shirt while at her school.
B. People are unfriendly to Fez for promoting left-wing political ideas while on a right-wing blog.
This leads to the obvious conclusion, according to Fez, that B and A, A and B are morally equivalent.

He fails to grasp that the treatment this girl received would have still been wrong no matter what t-shirt she was wearing, though her mistreatment clearly illustrates the blatant hypocrisy of a political movement that falsely regards itself as tolerant.

Posted by: Harris at November 15, 2008 9:34 AM

And did I mention that I tossed Obama's salad last night?

Posted by: Anonymous at November 15, 2008 9:38 AM

Fez here, not Anonymous oops

Has it ever occurred to to you, Hiram that very much of the tone of political conversation in this country has been set by Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, and Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham etc. etc. etc... who have a massive amount of airplay in this country... and don't give me the ditto-head mantra about the "media" being liberal... the majority of media is just big business, owned largely by conservatives who sell whatever sells without regard for its effect on society.

“Talk radio is ruining America.”-Trent Lott ....and I don't think he was talking about Air America.

I do think it's sad Ameirica can be so primitive, but you did hear McCain and Palin at work the last few months... yes? And its a surprise people hit back? They both at least deserve a few kicks in the ass... Palin especially.

Yes Hiram... its the "liberal" way... we criticize ourselves as well... thats part of why you can't handle us... we criticize ourselves and our country when it deserves it... I also equated the majority of the people posting here to 14 year olds ...as can be observed in the real Anonymous' posting above. I think we can kill this thread now... it's reached the bottom.

Posted by: fez at November 15, 2008 9:39 AM

Anon;

What the hell does that have to do with this? Changing the subject and going all 'non-sequitur' on your opponent is a dear lefty tactic, I know, but sheesh.

You refute my assertion that kids are being indoctrinated to the left by saying that the political discourse in this country is being set by Rush et al? If your statement were true, wouldn't the 14-year-old girl in the article have been CHEERED by her peers for wearing the McCain shirt?

Posted by: hiram at November 15, 2008 9:48 AM

No Hiram I'm saying that they were "fighting back" after hearing themselves and their "people" being attacked by the aformentioned hate mongers who have ginned up a third of the country with their special brew for years......

You haven't been here long have you... you'll soon see what I mean about the 14 year old level of discourse... just check out the real anon's post

Posted by: fez at November 15, 2008 10:05 AM

...as well as the hatred Palin herself personally spewed while she was doing her 15 minutes of fame. I broke my remote control throwing it at her face on the TV machine... fortunately I could glue it back together. Opps, I'm feeling 14ish...

Posted by: fez at November 15, 2008 10:12 AM

Wow, don't pull a muscle and hurt yourself stretching so hard, fez.

Once again I will illustrate fez's logic:

Cause: McCain/Palin campaigned against Obama/Biden.

Effect: Children naturally responded by telling a classmate she should die, be killed , or be crucified because of her t-shirt.

See, don't you guys get it?

Posted by: Harris at November 15, 2008 10:25 AM

I've been here longer than you, fez, and I've seen plenty of childishness in the comments. Most of it comes from the lib trolls, though there are occasional ones on the right as well. Then there's Spurwing Plover, in his own special category that none of us can really figure out.

I think you missed my point... why are they "fighting back" for their "people" at 14? How did they come to identify the political left as "their people"? They're not mature enough to have decided that they were on Obama's side by themselves. Why is it that when they hear the "hate mongers" (now that's a laugh, read any lib blogs lately?), they reflexively disagree? If those kids weren't being indoctrinated, wouldn't you think there'd be an even mix of pro-, con-, and idunno-viewpoints? I'd be surprised if 5% of them even knew who Sean Hannity is.

Posted by: hiram at November 15, 2008 10:33 AM

I broke my remote control throwing it at her face on the TV machine...

And he presumes to lecture about the maturity of others.

Posted by: Captain Irony at November 15, 2008 10:40 AM

tooshay, captain.

Posted by: nanc at November 15, 2008 10:54 AM

... you'll soon see what I mean about the 14 year old level of discourse ...

... Opps, I'm feeling 14ish...
~ fez

And as "doG" he made some similar comment in another thread about wasting his time with 13 year old mentalities or some such.

Do you see what the Moonbat is resorting to? He's saying "You guys are so immature!" Ha! Ha! Ha! What a numbskull. It's a child's taunt.


Posted by: Kevin R at November 15, 2008 11:14 AM

funny how doG disappeared as a regular poster when we figured out fez' game.

Posted by: nobody at November 15, 2008 1:28 PM

Whatever. It's all just entertainment for me. Maybe I feel the occasional thrill of revenge if I manage to piss one of you off.

...If only it did matter what I or anyone else says on this site, but this site is irrelevant... I'm just glad you folks have a place to blow off steam and that you all seem to want to live far away from civilization and where you can play with your guns and hate anyone left of Dick Cheney ...and feel manly together. ...and dream of fucking Sarah. Oh wait that was VthKs site... sorry.

Posted by: doGfez at November 15, 2008 2:13 PM

doGfuz,

You are not alone, and they make a pill for that now. You don't have to suffer any more.

When you leave the basement tell your mom I said Hi.

Posted by: Harris at November 15, 2008 3:05 PM

Quite frequently the much-touted but never witnessed tolerance of liberals comes up on Dennis Prager’s show. When it does, he wonders what would suffer more damage: a car in a heavily red state with an Obama bumper sticker, or one in a heavily blue state with a McCain sticker. Of course, Prager already knows the answer to his own question, but still I wished someone would actually conduct that experiment, just to make it official.

Looks like someone finally has, in a way.

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Posted by: EricTheRed at November 15, 2008 7:16 PM

DogFez...

First off, we don't "play" with our guns. Libs do that shit, that's why so many of them get shot. We're smart enough to know that firearms are not toys.

Secondly, the "and dream of fucking Sarah" nonsense.... do you dream of fucking Hillary? Actually, given the Messiah-worship of Obama, and your knee-jerk defense of every offense committed by homosexuals... um...

How old are you again? In one thread, you say we all act like 14-year-olds, and in the next you're projecting your teenage sexual fantasies on us?

Dude, get a grip. And I don't mean on your dick.

Posted by: hiram at November 16, 2008 12:25 AM

I resolve to not feed the trolls on this board. No good can ever come of it.

Posted by: Mike at November 16, 2008 11:23 PM

"What troubles me is how someone could wear one of those repugnant Che t-shirts without anyone making any comment whatsoever, yet McCain/Palin-shirt wearers receive threats."
That's because the vast majority of the people who wear Che shirts don't know squat about him, they think he's just "That cool revolutionary dude who, like, fought the Establishment or something, man."

Posted by: Adam at November 17, 2008 6:30 AM