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Yeah, it's not like our "individual freedom" is protected or anything like that.

Sounds kind of like the Hitler youth.

"...going through three months of basic training,..."

Yeah, right - more like 're-education camp'.

I love how they use the word "ASK" when talking about compuslory service. Its like when they say they will ASK people to pay more taxes. How is it asking when there is no option of saying no?

Nothing like slave labor and a supply of brown shirts to get the economy back on track, eh?

And people were worried about Bush bringing back the draft? 3 months? By the time that bug-eyed Rahm is done, will be more like 3 years.

You'd think the first black President would have heard of the 13th Amendment... the one that specifically bans this kind of thing.

Isn't it amazing that the "progressives" were screaming about a draft under Bush, and worried about all the horrors of the Patriot Act.

Now, before the One is even in office, they're telegraphing their hand: conscription into government service...maybe that "Domestic Security Force" Obama wants to impose on us. (Wonder if they'll be wearing blue helmets with U.N. stenciled on the side?)

We must stand against this stuff in every way possible.

LIVE FREE OR DIE.

And now the ground work being laid for The National Peoples Republic of Amerika. I don't know maybe something like this might do some good. Might make some of these lazy asses get up and do something besides sit around, smoking weed, and bad mouthing our country.

What will Obama do about a military whose members voted over 2-1 for McCain? Look for a wholesale purge of military leadership supplanted by Obama loyalists within the first year.

Yes, when liberals "ask" something of us, it's time to fight or flee.

In regards to the military. Im wonder how many will decline to re-enlist with Obama lording over them?

Obama would then have no choice but to reinstate the draft.

Dear Moonbattery crew,

One thing I do understand about your sides position is your concern that your children are being taught by liberals. With this I would have to agree. Having gone through public school, university, and grad school, indeed the vast majority of my teachers have been liberals. Now I want to say that most of them stayed within their boundaries, and gave us a very apolitical education.

Some however, did not. Even as a left leaning moderate (I do actually agree with some conservative issues, especially abortion and immigration and welfare reform), I remember being disturbed at some of the things that my professors said because I found them to be 100% politically or ideologically charged.

Although I do agree with most liberal views, I agree with YOU guys that this sort of thing should be kept out of the school system, and that you should continue to pay attention to this issue.

HOWEVER, what confuses me is why you make no attempt to encourage CONSERVATIES to teach. I generally think this is a problem with conservatives being too money obsessed. If they become educated, they only want jobs that make lots of money. Which you know, is totally acceptable. Go ahead, make money. But understand that in the pursuit of ONLY profitable career fields upon becoming educated, you leave the lesser paying jobs (like teaching)for the educated to the liberals who are less interested in money and more interested in serving their community and yes, unfluencing young Americans.

Conservatives aren't going to balance out the educational playing field ONLY by attacking liberal teachers. You guys need to get in the game yourselves. You need to start making a big push to get conservatives into jobs like teaching, and keep liberals from setting the educational standards; or you're going to see a dramatic ideological shift in this country that has already begun (as the youth vote has shown us) and your absense from educational will be just as much to blame as the presense of liberals.

Conservatives don't believe that it is our place to politicize the classroom. That is our key disadvantage. Even if more conservatives were hired as teachers, it would change nothing. Conservative teachers would keep their politics out of the classroom, and liberal hippie-dips would continue to proselytize.

"In regards to the military. Im wonder how many will decline to re-enlist with Obama lording over them?"

Actually this election yielded the highest ever military vote for Democrats. Obama got 44% of the military vote. A LOT of military people were pissed about McCain fighting the GI Bill. For instance the website www.military.com, which is frequented by many if not most military personel, was highly critical of McCain and the Republicans for fighting the GI Bill and for voting against pay increases for the military.

Coercive Utopians. They need to use the policing power of the state to achieve their perfect society. After all, they know better than the rest of the unenlightened masses. The comments at The Examiner in support of this idea show just how sheepish true believers are and how far they can be taken when the rules come from on-high. If GW had proposed the EXACT same nonsense, EVERYONE on the left would be opposed and probably rioting in the streets.
Our Founders are rolling, for sure.

If Obama did receive a higher percentage of the military vote, it would be due primarily to the racial angle, not the "McCain didn't support the military" canard.

V to the K,

I disagree because my husband was raised in the deep south. He said his teachers would teach him evolution and ancient history that was in the book...but tell him "this is all lies though, the Bible is the only truth" etc etc etc. I heard a lot of this same sentiment from other kids from deeply religious communities.

I do agree with you that conservatives who are not religious fundamentalists would keep the classroom apolitical. But I feel like the number of liberals who actively teach liberalism would be countered by the number of conservative religious types who ALSO would preach their ideology.

As for the rest who DO keep their philosophies out of the classroom...this is exactly what we need, and if you feel that most conservatives would adhere to this, it still is best for everyone that these people be pushed into teaching, whether liberals or conservatives. So if you believe that conservatives would keep this stuff out of the classroom, that is all the MORE reason to want them in it.

Why would I want to teach in a public school system? No money in it. Watch the media to. They send out the stench of libralism as well. Good post V the K. I agree.

Let me translate a few things from The Plan:

• basic training = leftist ideological indoctrination
• civil defense preparation = training in suppression of dissent (secret police)
• community service = "community organizing" (leftist agitation & shakedowns)

Regarding conservatives in education, at least at the highest levels, they're under-represented because they're discriminated against. Anyone who's a vocal conservative on your typical college campus doesn't stand much chance of being tenured, promoted, or even being kept on the payroll.

Another factor is that conservatives are drawn to professions where excellence is recognized and rewarded. Teaching is, basically, a union-shop profession where mediocrity is enforced because a teacher who performs well risks making the other ones look bad... which is why the teachers unions oppose merit pay.

Im all for unions! Unions of ONE. If you dont like the pay or the work, go somewhere else.

Unions, especially government ones like police, schools, public transit, ect, do indeed promote mediocrity. After all why work any harder than you have to if there is no chance you will get higher pay for it? If the contract says you get a 3% raise no matter how hard you work, why work any harder?

Wait a minute, conservatives are complaining about 3 months of compulsory government service? I think this is an excellent idea, Republican OR Dem president! Since when have you guys opposed of serving your country? I mean, 3 months... come on!

Blue V. You have 3 months or the time to spare?

Watching, unfortunately, now I don't, but, I wish I did. I have this pesky job and mortgage to pay. However, when I was 18, I think it would have been really good for me, would have taught given me a stronger sense of responsibility and service before heading off to college.

BlueVirginia, you answered your own question. We oppose any compulsory service.

I'm all for supporting my country. It actually means something when I'm not doing it because of some mandate. It's sort of like charitable giving. It's not that I'm against helping the poor. I'm against the government taking my money to do it. I donate as I see fit, and not because of a mandate.

Ah, so it's all right to force other people into involuntary servitude to the state to serve greater good.

Predictable leftist. By the way, BlowVirgnia, you owe us all an apology for denying that obamunists waved the hammer and sickle in front of the white house because, oh darn, someone caught it on video.

BTW, I put in way more than 100 hours per year of volunteer service to my church, but that is way different than compulsory service to Chairman O.

My son is also learning responsibility and service before college. It's called a job.

Ah, how easily one forgets the 13th Amendment:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Fuck you Obama and fuck you to all of his retard, jizzbag, slack-jawed shitheads who are now spouting 'What, its only 3 months. Don't you think you should give back to your country?'.

BlueVirginia, I'm 19 years old and I feel that it should be my personal decision what I do with my time and to what public-spirited cause I will commit to. For instance, this Thanksgiving I'm heading down to Skid Row here in Los Angeles to help cook and serve food to the needy. I don't require a government mandate that I perform a charitable action like that, I do it out of good will. That's my idea of community service.

So shove it, lemming.

Obama has since changed the plan from mandatory service to a promise a $4000 tuition tax credit for college students who put in community service.

Joyful college administrators look forward to raising tuition by $4000.

VtheK: "It's called a job."

Priceless. I'm sure moonbat trolls everywhere are googling just what this "job" thing is of which you speak.

On a personal level, I'd love to see the look on anyone's face coming to collect my children for their required government service. Armalite's products have a way of producing interesting expressions.

As per the mililtary vote:

Yes you are absolutely correct that the increased number of blacks in the military IS largely responsible for Obama receiving the highest % of military votes that a Democratic candidate has ever received.

However, you guys are going to shoot yourself in the foot if you refuse to acknowledge that Republican mismanagement of the military has affected military support. In an armytimes poll, out of mililtary active duty members who had voted for Bush in 2004 and were voting for Obama in 2008, 55% of respondants were white. Barack Obama clobbered John McCain in donations from active duty military — "in fact, men and women serving abroad gave Obama nearly six times more than his opponent," according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Also Ron Paul raised more money than McCain from overseas military personel. So Ron Paul and Obama- who are opposed to the war- both outearned by a HUGE amount McCain, who supports it.

My husband is a reservist who will be out of the army soon, I wouldn't consider us a "military family" in that we are not as much a part of military culture. However I do read websites like www.armytimes.com and www.military.com and various veterans websites. And as I stated earlier, these MILITARY websites have been HIGHLY critical of McCain's voting against pay raises and the GI Bill. You guys can't just pretend this isn't happening and that the Republicans have done NOTHING to piss the military off. You confuse "pro war" with "pro military." They are not the same thing.

The American Conservative, Army Times, and several other publications have had recent articles about the fact that the Republicans are starting to loose their monopoly on military voters.

oh great, a leftist trying to make sense...

Do these people not realize that there are some people in the 18-25 age group who have real responsibilities like a marriage children and jobs...not all young peope are are mooching off their parents and living off others like liberal loons. Shouldn't someone have a choice in whether or not they leave their young child for 3 months?! this is ridiculous

If you were to put a greasy-hair black wig on him and a top hat, he'd look like that kid stealer from "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". But on a serious note - how do they think they're going to mandate a program like this?? More government jobs, more tax payers' money to pay for it, more Obamatrons running around in camo gear....

Shana, if you can read the "52 to 48" site and totally miss the point, why should we trust your analysis on anything else you supposedly read?

(Shana in a previous thread asserted that the moonbats in the "52-to-48" site weren't seeking unity with the 48% who did not vote for the Obamassiah, but were instead seeking to unite with the world... an interpretation plainly contradicted by both the name of the site and the content.)

I hope he tries it. All those "yutes" that voted for him will be pissed

"Joyful college administrators look forward to raising tuition by $4000."

Yep. And no doubt giving preferential admissions to participants in the Obama Youth.

In addtion to transfering wealth and resources to statist allies in academia, this would also effect a transfer of community service and youth employment from churches and private employers to the government, diminishing the influence of nongovernmental institutions and increasing the power of the State.

Change.

Isn't compulsory service a fancy way of saying slavery?

I'm drowning in post-partisan irony.

No one held a gun to my head and said I HAD TO serve my country, that was tought to me by my parents! I signed up for the Air Force while in high school and went to the induction center in Miami a couple of months after I graduated.

I had mentioned how Liberal schoolboards in Florida had insisted that students "volinteer" for a certain number of hours of community service or they WOULDN'T GRADUATE. This is COERSION, Shana, and it's WRONG. What would the Liberals say if President BUSH had suggested this? I believe that there would have been protests and teachers' strikes at the very least.

Rahm Emanuel... the scary thing is, just add another "m" to his name and you get "Emmanuel" = "God with us".

God BE with us if this ever takes hold.

Anonymous any true blooded American will gladly volunteer to help our country.
VOLUNTEER.
GOT IT

No, they don't get. There is nothing in their brains that yells, "contradiction," when they see the words "compulsory" and "volunteer" used together.

Outside of the military option, who is going to be running these "government programs"?

I'm going into the tie dyed shirt and acostic guitar business.

I'll make a fortune!!!

Heys guys don't forget you serve your country when you pay taxes. If you really feel like serving you country start with you neighbors. I live in memphis in a mixed hood. All I have to do is go walk out my front door to help the folks around me. Everybody needs a helping hand. Dollar here a dollar there. Doesn't matter to me because it comes back. Where I live you better watch each others back. You want to feel good? Do some nice with out have to be told so. oh yea, just hired to African american ladies for full time positions. They more than likely voted for anointed one. Don't care. They were qualified and they needed jobs. One of them has a mouth to feed. Guess what? Some conservatives, most of them, care about people.

This is exactly how the Hitler Youth (later the 12th. SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend ["Hitler Youth"] was a German Waffen SS armoured division which saw action on the Western fronts during World War II).

and Chairman Mao's official campaign to rid China of its “liberal bourgeoisie” elements and to continue revolutionary class struggle by mobilizing the thoughts and actions of China’s youth, who formed "Red Guards" groups around the country...over a million PLUS strong that terrorized China to the point of Civil war...

THIS WHAT YOU WANT ?????!!!!

This is exactly how the Hitler Youth (later the 12th. SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend ["Hitler Youth"] was a German Waffen SS armoured division which saw action on the Western fronts during World War II).

and Chairman Mao's official campaign to rid China of its “liberal bourgeoisie” elements and to continue revolutionary class struggle by mobilizing the thoughts and actions of China’s youth, who formed "Red Guards" groups around the country...over a million PLUS strong that terrorized China to the point of Civil war...
STARTED!!!
THIS WHAT YOU WANT ?????!!!!

Going to the second job. Hell with the water walker coming into office maybe I can work just one job. What ever!!!!! Hope you libs enjoy you gubmit cheese samich tonight.

Not a bad idea. It'll give you something to shoot at.

More important than the involuntary servitude is what, exactly, is this "service" going to entail? We don't have a clue! Actually, we do have a clue if you look at Chairman O's Marxist background. Consider how he went about "reforming education" in the Chicago school system, for example. Was his focus on reading and writing? Hell no. And likewise, he's not talking about military boot camp when he says "basic training". This is scary 1984-speak.

Every step this new administration will make will be taken with the unstated goal of transferring power to the State and with subsuming the sovereignty of the nation into some concept of the "international community".

Just watch, and ask if these objectives are fulfilled by whatever initiatives they propose, be they economic, social, or military.

You can send your kid to an abortion clinic to protest for the community service portion of the requirement. Or how about volunteering with a group to shut down abortion clinics. Or volunteer for the NRA. Or for Palin's election campaign. How about border patrol to keep the aliens out? Or even better, Blackwater! See? Not so bad.

Do you people ever sleep at night or are there monsters under your beds as well as in your heads?

Keep in mind that many of these 18-25 youths from inner city gangs are subject to 'service' as well. Kind of doubt a $4000 tax credit will do them any good. May be better to offer them a 3-month sentence reduction for their next visit to lockup.

You'd think the first black President would have heard of the 13th Amendment... the one that specifically bans this kind of thing.

Posted by: Naqamel at November 10, 2008 10:40 AM

Must be the part of the Constitution the Messiah doesn't like!

And BlueVirginia, nobody is opposed to serving government, but it was meant to be a "choice" to do so, not manditory. How about letting people who need to earn cash to bail themselves out of a bad mortgage or wanting to get training agree to do service in trade for opportunity?

Anon @ 4:18

You just don't get it. I'm not complaining, in any aspect, about the nature of the servitude. I'm protesting the fact that Obama wants it to exist in the first place. I firmly believe service to this great country is something to be valued. Where I draw the line is "compulsory volunteering." First of all, it's an internally contradicting idea. Secondly, it's unConstitutional. Maybe you're OK with that. I'm not.

All forms of indentured servitude were outlawed long ago after close to a million American's died fighting over whether states rights exceeded federal power and then over slavery later in that war. It is insane to not allow a citizen to choose to serve in a free country. Right now I am a contractor with the Dept. of Defense and am proud to earn my living serving our "all volunteer military". You take the Freedom out of the USA when you start making things mandatory. What is so hard to understand about that. That is exactly why 99% of people who immigrate here do so, to escape all things mandatory in the countries they come from and live FREE.

Wait a minute, conservatives are complaining about 3 months of compulsory government service?

Pretend an American proposed it, instead of a Democrat. Then duck, because all unshirted would have broken loose.

I'm just glad I'm too old to be drafted.

The young people that voted for this imbecile Obama deserve to be drafted for their stupidity.

That's right Jay.

Besides that, I challenge whether the three months is actually "service" or is it re-education.

Let's see the 'curriculum'.

Let's see how much the new administration believes in freedom. Judge each new dictum on the public by the following standard:

Does it advance or retreat the concept of, "that which is not prohibited shall be mandatory"?

Seriously, liberals whined like puppies because Dubya wanted to know what suspected terrorists were checking out of the local public library. What about real freedoms? Where is the 0 going to stand on things like...

Your right to defend yourself.
To criticize things you don't like (even the 0).
To buy what you want from who you want for whatever you both agree on.
To smoke, drink, eat trans-fats, and generally treat yourself like shit if you want to.
To NOT recycle.
To shoot that damn badger that's been tearing up your tomato plants.
To send your kid to whatever school you want, even if you're poor.
To wear a McCain/Palin t-shirt, anytime, anywhere. Even if it's a dumb move.
To NOT have countless bureaucrats with the right to barge into your home and "inspect" your lifestyle (like in England).
To donate to charity or NOT as you please.
To drive a great big American gas-guzzler if you can afford it (even if you're not Al Gore) & question AGW.
To live if you're a baby.
To not have your money confiscated to pay for someone else's irresponsible behavior or ridiculous perceived 'grievances', and ESPECIALLY not for "community action groups" that oppose everything you believe in.
In fact, to keep YOUR money that YOU worked for, and save it, spend it, invest it, buy a house, blow it on whiskey and lap dances, burn it, fold it into origami cranes, keep it in a vault by your bed and roll around in it naked like Scrooge McDuck or just shove it up your ass for fun... whatever YOU want. That's one of the most basic freedoms there is. The freedom to own private property, starting with YOU. You own YOU, and the fruits of your own labor. You should be able to do whatever you please with both.

And, yes, to NOT be forced to "volunteer" for The One. Do so if you want, or don't.

Let's see where The 0 stands on actual freedoms.

To think that the United States of America would have ever been reduced to this sorry state of affairs. I never thought I'd live to see the day when people are actually arguing for this kind of thing - basically, indentured servitude.

I think it's going to take a little while before these Lefties understand what they've wrought on the nation. But you know, I want you Lefties to find out. You deserve it. I want you to find out good and hard.

Um how is it patriotism if you're being forced to do it? Okay I guess that is fairly self-explanatory since if left to their own devices moonbats do not show an ounce of patriotism. But why can't you people realise that, just like with civil rights, "social justice," anti-poverty efforts, and any other form of charity, attempting to force other people to do it mandatorily is not the same as doing it yourself or ensuring that it gets done?

Oh and Shana - yeah, suuuuuuure the military are turning away from Republicans. Just like whatever ridiculous percentage of Republicans themselves were turning away from the party because of Sarah Palin (91% positive approval ratings among Republicans in the post-election polls, thanks for asking) and the entirety of American society including conservatives were turning away from the Republican party because of Bushitler's failed economic policies and taking the nation to war - on a lie - to enrich his big oil buddies. Oh yeah the spluit was 52% to 48% and Obama didn't match Kerry's voter turnout. Are you really so stupid as to think we STILL haven't figured out the dumb-ass faux-concern trolling tactic you people have been pushing since like 3 months before the bloody election? It is a testament to you lefties' "never give up and never think things through" spirit that you are still trying to push that crap even after you already won the election. Oh sure now the format is different, you-all want to make nice with us and be gracious winners and help us to see the truth and light that is the way of The One and progressivism, after eight long years of Bush's fascist police state. Um yeah sure if we were fascists before the election guess what we're still fascists today because 99.999999% of us still believe in exactly what we did before, so quite frankly you can go shove it where the sun don't shine. And why are you trying to befriend/console/cajole/wheedle bigoted racist fascists in the first place?

You guys are nuts, fo real.

hiram, that was awesome.

Great post, Hiram.

Hiram nailed it.

Live free or die..... what don't the leftists understand about that?

Hiram nailed it.

The only "freedom" the left cares about is the freedom to have sex with anything, anywhere, any time, without any consequences. They want the government absolutely out of the bedroom, and absolutely in control everywhere else.

And to the moonbat left, it's a fair swap.

"The only "freedom" the left cares about is the freedom to have sex with anything, anywhere, any time, without any consequences. They want the government absolutely out of the bedroom, and absolutely in control everywhere else."

Really VtheK?

Well...Snif snif gurgglrt gurrglup oink hate hate FART snif, glop duf blit poop gluf duh? DUH??? Hilf buttgaa FART ga blip duf duf burp glut FART. Snif snif oink oing blut gaa DUH? Glub glut. Gimmy a beer dammit! Fuggin LIBERALS!

Slukk gulp HATE hate hate more stupid hate FART OOPS! SHIT! duf ga pooo DUH?? GLuf gluf gak nud tub frit FART sniff sniff sniff. Snif, FART snif.

Hate hate hate... hate hate FART snif snif snif. DUH????

OK>>>I admit I lowered the bar a little... but not that much really

How nice to be graced by someone fluent in the native language of DailyKos and Keith Olbermann.

I love how the lefties called Bush a fascist Hitler. How do they explain how it is that Obama won? Wouldnt a fascist have jailed Obama and his supporters 6 months ago and not welcome Obama to the Whitehouse to begin the transition?

Logic has never been the strong suit of leftists.

Shana, for someone who touts so much education you try to pass off your opinions as "facts with no documented evidence" which a high school debate team could debunk in a heartbeat!

Hiram stated it so well, that our troll has resorted to speaking KOSese and claiming HATE... the mantra of the Far Left when they can't make a logical argument. VtheK is simply stating exactly what the Far Left considers to be a priority, and it certainly isn't defending the principals of freedom.

While I would love to take credit for it, it was VtK that said that. Our troll is 'projecting', as usual.

Jesus Fucking Christ!!!!

You people constantly spout hate here.... it starts at the top of the site. What the theme of the site? ...MoonBattery "subtly"(not) implying that liberals, democrats and moderate republicans apparently, are "Moonbats" and goes on and on and on from there. You are all so completely god damn blind to your own hypocrisy (notice I didn't use caps to YELL at you, I'm maintaining my good manners here)

Thank god real conservatives or Republicans which, includes 2/3 of my own family would agree with me that you people are so fucking extremely far far to the right... your off the map ....really OFF THE GOD FUCKING DAM MAP.... oops sorry, now I started yelling I was just a little upset... not sure why... got to turn Rush down ....there... that helps

Anyway... have a nice day and please, try to look in the mirror a little closer... ? For the good of the country, Mom and apple pie?

Wait a second, MORE HATE NOISES. We're full of hate with our calm, logical arguments and documentation of the lunacy that is Moonbattery. Our awful hate is so hatingly hateful that it inspires blind rage within you, causing you to express it in poorly structured rants filled with profanity.

But we're hateful. As Buckwheat would say, "Ooooootaaayyyy."

MORE HATE NOISES, Moonbattery is the word used to identify the insanity of the Left. This site is dedicated to focusing on that insanity. It does a darn good job of it too.

...you people are so fucking extremely far far to the right...
MORE HATE NOISES

Far Right is upholding the principles of limited government, freedom, the Rule of Law, property rights, and constitutional republicanism consistently. Thank you, MORE HATE NOISES. You can go back to standing on the street corner yelling at cars now.

OK ...you win. I'll go back to the street and yell at cars and you go back to your Rush, Savage, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly "love" ...er ...whatever and get more hated up.

Wait!!! I just realized at least 52.6% of the population did not vote for your "cause"? ...46.1% did ....hmmm ...but fear and stupidity are great motivators and lord knows you people were laying it on thick so maybe we can cut that in half.... of course, we loose some to foolish optimism and yes-we-canism... but then ....theres that 364 for Obama and 174 for McCain delegate stuff.. is that in the constitution? OK ...YES! we win! ...we got capital... I'm not going back out to yell at cars now, not by myself... I've got america on my side... we will yell at cars united and together.

Good thing this is a big country and everyone can find a place to fit in and be "special" in their own way ...ay?

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MORE HATE NOISES. What's up with you? Oh yea I'm to the right because I don't want the left in my pockets much less in my life. It looks to me that 52% of the country voted not to get a job. What? Are you one those who are going to stay home all month waiting on the postal carrier to bring your check from your new daddy Obama so you can pay your cable bill and sit on your duff wacthing MSN getting your daily mind conditioning? Yep. That's you with that gubmit cheese samich in your hands that most of us here paid for because we work and pay taxes. Why don't you just a few minutes and look in the mirror so you can start ranting again. Maybe you will make some sense of yourself.

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I suspected you guys had very little sence of humor ...but if your not just being funny with that name, COWLOVE ...what are I to we to think? Again a ask... lookest thee into thy mirror.

"The only "freedom" the left cares about is the freedom to have sex with anything, anywhere, any time, without any consequences. They want the government absolutely out of the bedroom, and absolutely in control everywhere else." (from earlier in this "figuring out important stuff" thread...

The actual fact is, MORE HATE NOISES, most of those 52.6% don't know who they voted for. Obama was a beautiful Pandora's Box. You guys opened it.

?

Ok, I'll bite one last time.

"I suspected you guys had very little sence of humor"
~I have a good sense of humor. You're not funny. Hell, you're not even coherent.

"...but if your not just being funny with that name, COWLOVE ...what are I to we to think? Again a ask... lookest thee into thy mirror."
~Your shows possession. You're is short for "you are." "What are I to we to think?" Who cares? Who even knows what you're trying to say, besides you of course? Your advice is to look in a mirror. And do what, exactly? Usually that phrase is used as a response to obvious hypocrisy. So, establish me as a hypocrite and go from there. Good luck.

"'The only "freedom" the left cares about is the freedom to have sex with anything, anywhere, any time, without any consequences. They want the government absolutely out of the bedroom, and absolutely in control everywhere else.' (from earlier in this "figuring out important stuff" thread..."
~And where's your response? Do you agree? Is that why you quoted someone and offered no counter-point?

Go grab a towel and wipe the drool off your keyboard before you mess it up. Next time you post, try to make at least one thoughtful point in the midst of your mindless rambling. I know it's a stretch, but it will get easier for you with practice.

Hey ...Van Helsing is messing with my posts ...not fair!!!!

Yah ...go right ahead COWLOVE ...pretend you don't understand what I'm saying.... cover your brain ears and shout LA la la la LA LA....

I just love hanging out with 13 year olds again... don't get me wrong, get your minds out of the gutter ...but it's just been so long since I've had a good food fight or been able to believe I was a super hero.... fun fun fun!!!!

OK, no more posts today... I'm losing money engaging in important discussions... back to work!

HAAAAAAAA! This guy MORE HATE NOISES is really a funny thing. You go what ever you think you are!

This kid is too funny. It has to be a plant, right?

No cowlove. He's just your everday average libral jackass. I deal with it every day with my job. He is funny. What a clown!!!

Geez his mommie must be paying him to clean his room(basement).

just think... the goons these kids support will be tampering with the very fabric of the nation in a few months.

Geez his mommie must be paying him to clean his room(basement).

Posted by: Farmer Ted at November 11, 2008 2:29 PM

Now Farmer... you don't need to pick on Moms! LOL!!!