Original caption: Protesters block and surround a vehicle that has a "Yes on 8" sign taped to the back window during an anti-Proposition 8 demonstration in Westwood that drew hundreds of demonstrators.

And Gays wonder why there's gay bashing. Can't wait when the mooslims take over & stone every last one of them.

Are there no armed conservatives in California?

I can only imagine what would happen to a bunch of angry perverts who surrounded my car and threatened me. How ridiculous that they're carrying on like this, crying over a democratic vote in a democratic country.

There are armed conservatives in CA (at least there were when I left 13 years ago). Problem is, it's a crime to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle. While concealed permits are available, they're issued by the local Sherriff. If he's a moonbat (or just a dick), guess what Mr. Law-Abiding Citizen? You ain't gettin' one.

Depends on which county you live in whether you're free or not.

Their just hurting their cause by acting like angry freaks. The voters spoke and they feel discriminated against? What ever. marriage is between a man and a woman and that just how it is. The homos need should stop this shit. They just move in together and pretend to be married.

Drought, the worlds highest income taxes, the worlds most expensive real estate, earthquakes, fires, no smoking in public, smog, mudslides, wind storms, hollywierd, brownouts, water shortages, flooding, all the penalties the green earth society can put on people, intollerance, pestilence, greed, violence, worlds highest insurance, finatical liberal moonbats on every corner.

Welcome to California!! the golden state. Have a nice day. Pick that up.

When will this place finally drop into the sea? Have I missed anything?

They want MORE rights than the rest of the populace. They already can marry a woman. Just like me. I did, (probably will again.) If these dorks came into my church and disrupted the service They'ed be glad its right next to the hospital because my pastor goes into hard neighborhoods after services and "carries".
bitches

Doesn't the constitution provide for us (we the people) to vote a state out of the union? If so I'll gladly second the motion.

Hey Oiao, guess what?
Gays STILL can't marry in CA!
Just to make sure you stay updated!

LOL, you don't say...................

How the heck did that happen, two-faced Democratic Party Voters?

Nah, Eric, there isn't.

See we had us a little war well nigh on 150 years ago 'bout this very same thing. Kinda settled the matter.

I also find it interesting looking at the historical record... didja know that after the War Between the States (yankees call it the "Civil War"), there wasn't a single prosecution of those who were in 'rebellion'? Not one. A lot of noise was made about "healing" and "not dragging out the past", but only AFTER the ones clamoring for trials realized that they would lose in court... since the war was unjust and illegal.

If the South had won, y'all might have somewhere left to flee to...

(LEVITICUS CHAPTER 18 VERSE 22) THOU SHALT NOT LIE WITH MANKIND AS WITH WOMANKIND: IT IS ABOMINATION).

1CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 6 VERSE 9) KNOW YE NOT THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? BE NOT DECEIVED: NEITHER FORNICATORS, NOR EFFEMINATE(HOMOSEXUALS) NOR ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND NOR THEIVES, NOR COVETOUS, NOR DRUNKARDS, NOR REVILER, NOR EXTORTIONERS SHALL INHERIT THE KINGDOM FO GOD.

READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER OF ROMANS CHAPTER 1. HEARS JUST A LITTLE OF WHAT THE BIBE SAYS:

ROMANS CHAPTER 1 VERSE) FOR THIS CAUSE GOD GAVE THEM UP UNTO VILE AFFECTION: FOR EVEN THEIR WOMEN DID CHANGE THE NATURL USE NOT THAT WHICH IS AGAINST NATURE: AND LIKE WISE ALSO THE MEN, LEAVING THE NARTURAL USE OF THE WOMAND BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER; MEN WITH MEN WORKING THAT WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, AND RECEIVING IN THEMSELVES THAT RECOMPENCE OF THEIR ERROR WHICH WAS MEET. STUDY THE BIBLE ONLINE AT (BIBLE.COM) TYPE IN ANY TOPIC, LEARN THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF.

Usial amount of spoiled little brats as always throwing their tantrums THE SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES and as for the stupid brainless jackass using the sign as a megaphone to srceam his foul talk SOMEONE SHOULD SHOOT SOME PEPPERSPRAY RIGHT DOWN HIS THROAT TILL HE IS PUKING UP ALL THE GARDEN BURGER HE HAS BEEN STUFFING HIS UGLY FACE WITH AND AS THOSE THOSE HOODS ASSUALTING THE OLD LADY ITS TOO BAD SHE DIDNT HAVE A BIG BURLY GRANDSON TO BEAT THE SNOT OUT OF THOSE PIGS

The only good things about California is its varying climate and the fact that smoking is outlawed in public.

Anon 4:13,
My brother and his wife live in Irvine, and they're both good people (My brother is rather liberal, but he's not as ass about it).

Its 5:05 PM in California. And, Gays still can not marry in CA.

Hey, Prop 8 opponents, why aren't you protesting/vandalizing all the mosques in CA? Last time I looked, Muslims were vehemently anti-homosexual, much less anti-gay marriage.

Oh, I forgot -- you're cowards, so you have to go after the Christian churches, the Mormons, anyone who won't cut your heads off at the slightest provocation (or no provocation at all) . . .

Amen to that jc14, until they protest ALL religions equally they have NO creditability!

This is the way the LEFT would have your neighborhood

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/index.php

Can't you see your kids walking home from school through this!?

Q. What is the difference between a Democrat and a puppy?

A. A puppy quits whining when it grows up.

wonder if he felt a little like reginald denny?

the left CAN be vicious no matter how peaceful they tell you they are. just sayin'...

The irony is...................... drumroll please..................

The gays are protesting the NAACP gathering in the SF Bay Area tonight. Saw it on the local news.

Should be a couple of good articles on this tomorrow.

Is Left (gay) on Left (black) violence a hate crime in this case. Actually, reverse that.

Now it the Illegial Aliens would just get into the same frey, we'd have a libertard trifecta.

a joke BARACK OBAMA IS WALKING DOWN THE STREET HE COME UPON A KID WITH A BOX FULL OF KITTENS HE ASKS THE KID WHAT KIND OF KITTENS THEY ARE, LIBERAL KITTENS SAYS THE KID THE NEXT WEEK OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE WALKING DOWN THE SAME STREET THERES THE SAME KID WITH THE SAME BOX OF KITTENS HE ASKS WHAT KIND OF KITTENS ARE THEY? CONSERVATIVE KITTENS SAYS THE KIDS OBAMA SAYS BUT LAST WEEK THEY WERE LIBERAL KITTENS NOW THEIR CONSERVATIVE KITTENS THE KID SAY WELL THATS BECUASE THEIR EYES ARE OPEN NOW

oiao - i believe they would cancel each other out!

Ted: That has happend to me with my kid. I was driving through SF with my husband and my 5 year old during the Freak Fest. I had no idea what the hell it was at the time. We got caught in traffic and two pervs in chaps, a coon tail and nothing else walked by!!!!! I was mortified and tried to distract my kid. It was horriable!!!!

This is a repost of some comments I made on this topic before:

Scripture should never be studied in isolation from the rest of the Bible. Compare scripture to scripture and you will find consistent treatment of homosexuality throughout the Bible.

Practicing homosexuality is an abomination to God.

Only by twisting a single passage or making unsupportable stretches of logic can you conclude that Jesus thought practicing homosexuality is acceptable.

Those claiming Jesus never had anything to say about homosexuality always omit his repeated references to Sodom and Gomorrah as examples of what awaits those who do not repent. Matthew 10:15, Matthew 11:23-24, Luke 10:12, Luke 17:29.

The apostle Peter, who no doubt heard Jesus' teaching, says virtually the same thing in one of his epistles. 2 Peter 2:5-7

And no, Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for the sin of "inhospitality." Everyone in Jesus' time knew what Sodom and Gomorrah were about:

". . .Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire." Jude 1:7

BTW, I don't hate homosexuals but I will not exculpate its sinfulness or danger to the public well being; both cultural, economical, biological, etc.

Remember hate the sin, not the sinner.

The liberal 'Christian' obsession on whitewashing Jesus Christ's teachings is saddening.

mike - it's commonly referred to as "bible buffet" - where you may pick and choose only the most palatable treats. meanwhile they perish.

We up here in northern california have always had our what we call the STATE OF JEFFERSON whe want to secede from california and become a new state and maybe its time we did and told those crooks in SAKRAMENTO to GO TAKE A HIKE

i'm a recovering californistinian, spurwing.

Study the bible online at (Bible.com) Type in any topic any topic, example like homosexual, last days, heaven, sin, hell, fornication, and the book of like; the book of like is the book that keeps the records of the names of the true christians that have done God's will. And then there is another book of those that were commandemnt brakers. These book will be open and read on judgment day. May God bless the reader that reads and understand.

CORRECTION: THE BOOK OF LIFE NOT LIKE

tonya - not to go all theological on you, but the other book has the names of those who will not accept Yeshua as Lord and Saviour. the Lamb's book of life has the names of those who have accepted His grace as sufficient. no one can keep the commandments, we all fall down continually.

Yes' nanc I understand, God is speaking to the true church. in the bible he says "blesseth are those that keep my commadement.

We must pray to God to help us keep his commandments, and if we happen to slip, if we repent God will forgive us, because we have Jesus in our hearts, who washes away our sin.

But nanc I do believe their our christians that do keep the commandments, only God knows who they are. Thank You Nanc and may God bless your

thank you, tonya, but we could never keep them all at all times - there is none righteous after all. the commandments were made to point out our sin and need for THE SAVIOUR!

Reading your comments and this site as a whole makes me sad. I hope that if a god does exist that it is not ok with such hateful people. If I had lived my life to get into heaven i would be beyond grief if any of you were there. I ask how and a Christian theocracy is different than an Islamic theocracy

bob - please come back when you pass your grammar class, 'kay?

Yet another liberal troll who thinks that the Word of God is 'hateful'.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; they put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20

Unlike militant Muslims, Christians are not going to harm anyone.

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. -- Matthew 10:16

You and your ilk are the ones that I pity.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. -- Proverbs 3:5-6

Hopefully, you will come to embrace the word of the Lord before you find yourself before him.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
--John 3:16

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord;
--Romans 6:23

God gave us free will. The choice is yours.

[thank you, tonya, but we could never keep them all at all times - there is none righteous after all. the commandments were made to point out our sin and need for THE SAVIOUR!

Posted by: nanc at November 22, 2008 12:34 PM]

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. -- Matthew 23:12

Amen.

Mike,

You have a free will - so give up sex and intimacy. Do it.

People are BORN with an homosexual sexual orientation. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with free will. Sexual behavior does - so give it up.
And then come back and rant about gays.

Your argument is specious nonsense. Please do not try to make reality contort to fit your sad views.

Again, you have a choice in this. If you choose sin and perversion over godliness, then I do pity you.

You will be in my prayers.

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Science Shows That Homosexuals Are Not "Born That Way."
December 13, 2004

Posted on Monday, December 13, 2004 12:51:59 PM by Laissez-faire capitalist

1.)Dr. Dean Hamer who failed to find a "gay gene":

"Homosexuality is not purely genetic. Environmental factors play a role. There is not a single master gene that makes people gay. I don't think that we will ever be able to predict who will be gay."

2.) Dr. Dean Hamer was asked by Scientific American if homosexuality was rooted solely in biology. He replied:

"Absolutely not. From twin studies we already know that half or more of the variability in sexual orientation is not inherited. Our studies try to pinpoint the genetic factors, not negate the psychosocial factors."

("New Evidence of a "Gay Gene," by Anastasia Toufexis, Time, November 13, 1995, Vol. 146. Issue 20, p.95)

3.) British researchers generated comparable results in an identical-twin study. Their conclusion? The suprisingly low odds that both twins were homosexual.

The study by them: "confirmed that genetic factors are insufficient explanation for the development of sexual orientation."

(King, M and McDonald, E. Homosexuals Who Are Twins: A Study of 46 Probands. British Journal of Psychiatry. 160: 407-409 (1992).

4a.)Homosexual researcher Simon Levay, who studied the hypothalamic differences between the brains of heterosexuals and homosexuals:

"I didn't show that gay men are born that way the msot common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain."

4b.)Dr. Simon Levay: The most widely held opinion [on causation of homosexuality] is that multiple factors play a role.

Levay, Simon (1996). Queer Science, MIT Press.

5.) Dr. J. Satinover:

"Research studies on homosexuality by Dr's Dean Hamer, Michael Bailey, Richard Dillard, Simon Levay. Laura Allen and Roger Gorski have failed to show proof of a gay gene. There is no scientific evidence that shows that homosexuality is genetic. The media has sensationalized and perpetuated the myth of a homosexual gene."

Satinover, J. M.D. (1996) Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Grand Rapids. Baker Books

6.) Another of Dr. Jeffery Satinover's conclusions in "The Gay Gene":

"There is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is genetic--and none of the resaerch itself claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do when speaking in sound bites to the public."

(Jeffery Satinover, M.D. The Journal of Human Sexuality, 1996, p.8)

7.) The American Psychological Association:

"Many scientists share the view that sexual orientation is shaped for many people at an early age through complex interactions of biology, psychological and social factors."

(The American Psychological Association's pamphlet "Answers to Your Questions About Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality."

8.) The American Psychiatric Association (2000):

"no replicated scientific studies showing any specific biological etiology for homosexuality."

9.) Sociologist Steven Goldberg:

"I know of no one in the field who argues that homosexuality can be explained without reference to environmental factors."

(Goldberg, Steven (1994) When Wish Replaces Thought: Why So Much of What You Believe is False. Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books.

10a.) Science, 1994:

"Time and time again, scientists have claimed that particular genes or chromosomal regions are associated with behavioral traits only to withdraw their findings when they were not replicated. "Unfortunately," says Yale's [Dr. Joel] Gelernter: "It's hard to come up with many findings linking specific genes to complex human behaviors that have been replicated...all were announced with great fanfare, all were greeted unskeptically in the popular press; all are now in disrepute."

(Mann, C. "Genes and Behavior." Science 264: 1687 (1994), pp. 1686-1689.)

10b.) "The interactions of genes and environment is much more complex than the simple "violence genes" and "intelligence genes" touted in the popular press."

Mann, C. op. cit. pp. 1686-1689

11.) Two genetics researchers, one at Harvard, commented in Technology Review, July 1993 p. 60 concerning twin study's.

"While the authors interpreted their findings as evidence for a genetic basis for homosexuality, we think that the data, in fact, provide strong evidence for the influence of the environment."

(Billings, P. and Beckwith, J. Technology Review, July 1993. p.60)

12.) P. Scott Richards:

"Some environmental and psychological factors that may play a causal role in the development of homosexuality include: (1) cross-gender effiminate behavior in childhood. (2) gender-identity deficits (3) hostile, dteached or absent fathers (which leads to "defensive detachment" from the father and other males) and (4) overly close, controlling or dominating mothers.

(P. Scott Richards, "The Treatment of Homosexuality: Some Historical, Contemporary and Personal Perspectives," AMCAP Journal. Vol 19, No. 1, 1993, pg. 36)

13.) Lesbian biologist Dr. Anne Fausto-Sterling of Brown University, responding to the "born that way" argument:

"It provides a legal argument that is, at the moment actually having some sawy in court. For me, it's a very shaky palce. It's bad science and bad politics. It seems to me that the way we consider homosexuality in our culture is an ethical and a moral one."

14.) Camille Paglia, lesbiam activist: "Homosexuality is 'not normal'. On the contrary it is a challenge to the norm. Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single, relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction. No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous. Homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait."

Camille Paglia: " Is the gay identity so fragile that it cannot bear the thought that some people may not wish to be gay? Sexuality is highly fluid, and reversals are theoretically possible. However, habit is highly refractory, and once the sensory pathways have been blazed -- a phenmenon obvious in the struggle with obesity, smoking, alcoholism or drug addiction...helping to learn how to function heterosexually, if they wish, is a perferctly worthy aim."

Camille Paglia: " We should be honest enough to consider whether homosexuality may not indeed be a pausing at the prepubscent stage where children anxiously band together bt gender...current gay cant insists that homosexuality is 'not a choice'; that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer to deal with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort."

Boys victimized by older men are far more likely to be homosexual as adults, and the cycle often repeats itself. More environmental factors.

15.) Noted child sex-abuse expert David Finkelhor found that "boys victimized by older men were over four times more likley to be currently engaged in homosexual activity than were non-victims. The finding applied to nearly half the boys who had such an experience. Further, the adolescents themselves often linked their homosexuality to their victimization experiences."

(Bill Watkins & Aaron Bentovim, "The Sexual Bause of Male Adolescents: A Review of Current Research, " Journal of Child Psychiatry 33, (1992); in Byren Finkelman, Sexual Abuse(New York: Garland Publishing, 1995), p. 316

16.) The Archives of Sexual Behavior:

"One of the most salient findings of this study is that 46% of homosexual men and 22% of homosexual women reported having been molested by a person of the same gender."

(Marie, E. Tomeo "Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescent Molestation in Heterosexual and Homosexual Persons." Archives of Sexual Behavior 30 (2001): 539)

17.) A study of 279 homosexual and bisexual men with Aids and control patients reported:

"More than half of both case and control patients reported a sexual act with a male by age 16 years, approximately 20% by age 10 years."

(Harry W. Haverkos, "The Initiation of Male Homosexual Behavior," The Journal of the American Medical Association 262 (July 28, 1989): 501)

18.) A stduy of 229 convicted child molesters found that:

"86% of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual."

(W.D. Erickson, Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters, Archives of Sexual Behavior 17 (1988): 83)

19.) A National Institue of Justice report states that:

"the odds that a childhood sexual abuse victim will be arrested as an adult for any sex crime is 4.7 times higher than for people...who experienced no victimization as children."

(Cathy Spatz Widom, "Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse - Later Criminal Consequences, Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse Series: NIJ Research in Brief (March 1995): 6)

20.) A Child Abuse and Neglect study found that 59% of male child sex offenders had beenvictims of contact sexual abuse as a child.

(Michelle Elliott, "Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What offenders Tell Us" Child Abuse and Neglect 19, (1995): 582)

"how and a Christian theocracy is different than an Islamic theocracy"
Here are three differences between a Christian society and an Islamic society:
In a Christian society,
1. Gays do not have to fear being executed for their orientation. In Muslim theocracies such as Iran, the favored way of dealing with homosexuals is to have them buried in sand up to about their chests, then executed by stoning.
2. Women don't run the risk of beating or execution for refusing to wear a veil over their faces.
3. Courts punish rapists, rather than punishing the women who were raped, which is the custom in areas under sharia law.

If your main complaint of my post has to do with grammar rather than opinion, I am pleasantly surprised. Would the grammar problem perhaps be not capitalizing your fairy-god-creature?

Its Saturday, 22 Nov '08, and gays still can not marry in CA because of Democratic Party Voters who won't let them.

Oh so sad.

"Would the grammar problem perhaps be not capitalizing your fairy-god-creature?"

Comments like this are meant for yourself, hoping to argue your beliefs.
I'm an atheist and I capitalize God, out of respect for those who believe.

And now they get their own school...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/13/gay.friendly.school/index.html

If there was a "gay gene" perhaps one day science will create a "gay test" so that pregnant women could test if their child will be homosexual. Then abortions, and council could then be arranged if need be.

We need to burn and crucify a few of these vermin.

Jomama you didn't capitalize your own name. Fairy-God-creature, I respect the people who believe in you. Conan whom do you want to burn and crucify and after you did that would you establish a religion surrounded around them ?

Actually, lib-troll, I think that Conan is one of your fellow liberal hate-mongers.

Your trolling skills leave much to be desired. You are not fit to carry Dino's HIV meds.