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Is that Ralphie or Dino?

Good article on the plans George Soros and his minions have for America and why the economy seemed to fall apart as the election drew closer.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6485

"Have you ever wondered how capitalism was pushed over the edge of the cliff just six weeks before the American presidential election?

According to financial experts, the world, as we know it will change dramatically by the year 2012. People, who provided for their families only three years ago, will be desperately searching for food. "

The target? The MIDDLE CLASS (not the RICH) but the those they say they want to help...

"These chilling words are in line with ones he used for the opening session of the Rio Conference (Earth Summit II) in 1992, that industrialized countries have:

“Developed and benefited from the unsustainable patterns of production and consumption which have produced our present dilemma. It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class—involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing—are not sustainable. A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.”

The only change that has happened since 1992 is that Strong and Soros now have their Agent of Change coming to the White House. "

What's that? The Miming Nun?

With the prevalence of fruits in the news lately you would think that the precentage of homos in the population has jumped from 2% to 200%.

I for one and sick and tired of spittle flecking fags and homos screaming in my face.

Could it be that they are itching for a backlash? Some of them I`m sure daydream about being hauled off in handcuffs by big burly men. Barney Frank, for instance.

The costumes (or somtimes the lack therof) they like to wear while marching at rallies, seem to bolster their position.

They need to begin building more mental hospitals, pronto!

"because i'm so freakin' normal!"

The evil and sinister GEORGE SOROS his ultimate plans to disarm us all just like any other evil socialists scumballs its time to deport this soros slime snake to the furthests star in the universe

pits of hell is more like it spurwing.

"we're just like you,sort of"

Lets see....HMMMMMMM. Well you homos have the same human features; fingers, toes, ears,and the like. Thats it!
I don't screw the same sex. Yucky!
The only penis I like belongs to me.
I firmly believe in God and the heavens above.
I don't throw sissy like tantrums when I don't get my way.
I don't beat up old ladies or bust into churches while people are praying to God.
I wear clothing that is fashionable and not obscene.
I don't wear make up.
No we're not alike in any way except human features.

To the Gay community......Jump off a cliff. We will use bleach to kill any STD's the may come from your blood spatters.

It doesn't matter what the People in California voted evidently:
http://www.change.gov/agenda/civil_rights_agenda/

"Barack Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples."

"Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: Barack Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman"

"Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: Barack Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited."

"Expand Adoption Rights: Barack Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation."

"Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes."

Fight Workplace Discrimination: Barack Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity.

Whats the only meat a priest can eat on Fridays?
Nun
Sorry 'bout that

first sign of aids?

sharp, stabbing pain in the poopski!

me too, james...my terrible...

watching?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

...the only one you like is yours...

The huge problem with this website is that it takes a hyper specific group of far left liberals and portrays them as representing liberals as a whole. This would be like me making a webpage in which I went on and on about how much I hate everything about fundamentalist Mormons, except I just called them "conservatives" and acted like an FLDS member is representative of all right wingers.

I'm an independant who used to be a banker in a small town in Tennessee and now am a dairy farmer in a small town in Vermont. Except for my occupation and the weather, virtually nothing about my life has changed. Vermont is considered one of the most liberal states in the union. Yet it is primarily small, rural towns. Almost everyone i know is a farmer, many of whom built their homes (or at least their barns/sheds/etc) with their own hands. EVERYONE I know has multiple guns. Everyone I know has an extra fridge or freezer for when hunting season comes up. Most people are Christians, and social life revolves around the church and church sponsored activities more than anything else. Physical activities are the other main source of entertainment, be they snowmobiling, skiing, snowboarding, hiking, fishing or hunting. Family is just about everyone's main priority.

I know that hippies exist, that there are liberals who want to illegalize meat and cars and the military and guns. But these people are a joke, and none of my many liberal neighbors are even remotely like that. And it is simply disingenuous for you to act like all liberals are hippies. Your average lib will share a few ideals with a hippie, just as your average conservative will share a few ideals with a fundamental Mormon. But neither a lib or a con is likely to think that these two groups represent the overwhleming cultural paradigms of their societies.

Most liberals are just like you, with the same passions, priorities, and platitudes. The only difference between my home in Tenn and my home in VT is that when election time comes around, down in Tenn most of the signs in the yards were for Repubs, and in VT most of the campaign yard signs are for Dems. Day to day life, and interactions with my neighbors, are absolutely identical.

I guess it just depends on your mentality. If you go looking for evil in the world, you will surely find it. I try and look at the best aspects of people different than me, either ideologically or culturally. The best way to do that, I have found, is by volunteering. There you will see conservatives, liberals, and everyone in between at their very best, and you will see how meaningless differences like religion or political persuasions are.

This website only wants to look at the worst in people, so in scours the internet for anything negative it can find about people who think differently from them, then in trumps up these negative stories to apocalyptic proportions to instill fear, hatred, and downright paranoia in its readers. I'm an independant with a conservative wife and a liberal daughter. We manage to get on just fine with eachother.

I feel bad for whoever runs this website. It must be a very very stressful and depressing to go through life with ash tinted glasses.

One final point:

nothing makes me madder than conservatives who say liberals are coming after their Bibles and their guns. Again, I'm not saying there aren't a few crackpots out there who want to do just that, but those people are mostly tye dyed hippies whose only job ever is working at a coffee shop, and who have absolutely zero influence on the Democratic party as a whole. That's why they have so much time to put together outlandish, media attention getting protests- they don't have real jobs. But just because people like Code Pink dress up ridiculously and get themselves in front of some news cameras doesn't mean they represent the rest of liberals. It's just that the rest of them are too busy WORKING to make spectacles of themselves.

I do watch The Daily Show, which is definitely leftist, and they have had multiple segments on Code Pink and similar groups, and do nothing but talk about how stupid they are.

If us Vermonters got rid of their Bibles and their guns, there would be very little left to do around here.

Well, Anonymous, with all that you could have given yourself a made up name. You got too much to say when a proper WAAAAAAA!!!!would have worked just as well. If this is such a bad place, go swing with your Pinkos from a Maple tree somewhere. And if everyone is so conservative in Vt., why have you elected a self proclaimed Socialist? Who by the way isn't as liberal as Obama! The reason you don't like this site is because you are one of the Moonbats! Quit being a Moonbat and we'll quit making fun of you. Thank you for leaving the South, you are where you need to be.

Perhaps I am looking through the world with ash-colored lenses. Thanks, Anonymous, you've opened my eye's to a different world.

This is site is called Moonbattery.com and it's about Moonbats. That's what we discuss.

Why is that so hard to understand?

If this site discussed "normal liberals" it would be called NormalLiberals.com and I doubt we would discuss anything. The stories would be few and far between and that would be boring.

On a side note, banking to dairy farming?? I smell B.S. (pun intended).

To the Anonymous one,

You bring up valid points in your posts but I think your missing the point about this site. Speaking for myself I don't like the liberals in the house nor do I like the liberals in the senate. Take drilling for our own oil for example. These guys will reverse the repeal on off shore drilling and Obama, liberal and socialist, will go along with this backwards thinking.

Another example is the fairness act. The liberals will try to shut sites like this down. I have the right to express my opinion.

This site is for those who don't want the government in our lives. I blame the liberals for the crash of the economy because of the practices they did started in the late 80's. It's liberals like Henry Waxman and his buddies that got the housing market to fail buy strong arming lenders to loan money for houses that people could not afford thus the demise of our economy. These types libral ideals is what I don't want for my country. They are counter prodctive.

As for the hippie type liberals they come on this site from time to time spreading plenty of hate which in turn gives the other liberal a bad rap.

By the way I live in Memphis TN. and the states now under republican control in the house and senate.

"we're just like you..sort of.."

..not really. I prefer to wear my chiffon and sling-back stiletto heels when I protest!

(Not!)

It looks like LOOSE-SCREWS the wacky long lost brother to DATA and LORE

To anonymous. I live in RI, have been to Vermont quite a few times and it is a beautiful state with a lot of great people. The problem is, it's one of the most left leaning states around. That's fine. We make fun of Moonbats because it's easy, fun and needs to be done.
Treeeees,
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But just because people like Code Pink dress up ridiculously and get themselves in front of some news cameras doesn't mean they represent the rest of liberals.

Then, why doesn't the Democrat party repudiate them? Why are the most popular left-wing blogs... Huffington Post, DailyKos, Democratic Underground... daily packed with the rantings of people you insist are on the margins of your movement? Why do Democrat politicians give obeisance to these people?

The problem isn't that you have extreme nutjobs in your party, the problem is that these nutjobs are having their policies implemented whenever a liberal judge blocks an oil company from drilling, whenever some ridiculous carbon-tax scheme is proposed, whenever the ACLU goes to bat for a terrorist while doing everything in their power to stigmatize Christianity.

You say these people are on the margins of your party, but it looks to us like they're running the show.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2RjZmY2MmE1NmEzYTgzODg2ZWVmN2M0NzQxNmZhMzQ=

Imagine 1/3rd of all Catholic Hospitals closing down. Wait till FOCA hits the law books.

As for the hippie type liberals they come on this site from time to time spreading plenty of hate which in turn gives the other liberal a bad rap.

If what the liberals that wander through here on occasion spread "hate", what do you call what the conservatives around here have to say?

e.g., I found this statement to be particularly loving:

This is what was done wrong. Back in 1969 at the Stonewall Riots the police should have opened fire on the rioting homos and not stopped shooting them until the rioting end.

Posted by: Chris Hammerkopf at November 20, 2008 2:06 AM

or how about this paragon of virtue:

To the Gay community......Jump off a cliff. We will use bleach to kill any STD's the may come from your blood spatters.

Posted by: Watching at November 26, 2008 8:58 AM

Yea I said it. I don't consider that hate just wishful thinking plus I didn't say I would push them off the cliff either. I'm tired of them throwing their life style in my face via the media. I make no excuses for my opinions. Call me a hypocrit makes no difference to me. If I offended you John or if your gay get over it.

I've read the trash on liberal blogs sites and beleive me they talk far worse smack and hate there. Have a nice Thanksgiving.

Just so we're clear about that nature of the people casting stones around here. Wishing death upon a good chunk of the population may not be "hate" to you, but others might call it "genocidal." It also puts you in the same category as skinheads and the KKK. I've dropped in over here out of a general curiosity about how conservative America thinks. I was curious if conservative thought was as full of hate and vitriol (not to mention challenged reasoning) as conservative leadership gives one the impression. Sure enough, I have gotten the proper impression. What I see around here is a lot of rage, murderous rage even, and very little critical thought or evidentiary reasoning.

Happy Thanksgiving.

"Is that Ralphie or Dino?" Actually V the K, funny you should ask! It's a photo of that tranny you picked up at the Applebees bar in Fredneck last night!

Then don't come back John. You guys are just as full of rage as you say about us. You are a hypocrit as well. I make it a point to respond on liberal blog sites because I don't like to talk to narrow minded sheeple. I just like to read your propaganda and boy are you guys naive.

John only an irrational mind could formulate comments like yours.

1. A minority of liberals is cited as giving the others a bad name by Watching.
2. You, in response, cite a minority (2) of comments on this site as casting the others in a bad light. Only one of those comments was made by a regular poster. Chris Hammerkopf was clearly trolling in that post.
3. You then go on to state your stereotypes of conservatives have been reinforced by the previously mentioned minority of comments on this site.

So to summarize, we shouldn't stereotype liberals based on the few bad apples that come here, just like conservatives shouldn't be stereotyped by the minority here that has shown hate, but that conservative minority has helped reinforce your stereotypes of conservatives.

Those mental gymnastics would make a sane person keel over in exhaustion.

Hmm, looking at Ozmatt's post really sums up the problem with far right wingers in a nutshell.

First off, he didn't even read the post he was complaining about. It clearly states not that Vermonters are conservatives (as Ozmatt claims he said), just that most liberals and conservatives have a lot more in common than the far right and far left blogosphere and pundits would have us believe.

FAR right wingers like Ozmatt LITERALLY wish death upon anyone who disagrees with them. On this web page alone, in just a small selection of threads, there are numerous cases in which posters state that anyone (not even just liberals!) who disagrees with ANYTHING they think should die or "fucking die."

And then they wonder why no one believes them when they say the liberals are the dangerous fascists and thought police.

The left seeks power precisely for the purpose of using the government to force their values on everybody. The right seeks power to prevent the government from forcing values on everybody.

The left claims it is the other way around, but the overwhelmingly majority of assaults on individual liberty in the past century have come from the left: A post at a sane gay blog makes this precise point.

1. A minority of liberals is cited as giving the others a bad name by Watching.

I think you meant "Watching calls for the death of a minority of liberals."

2. You, in response, cite a minority (2) of comments on this site as casting the others in a bad light.

In this thread alone I can grab a few more, and if I spent time at it I could easily find hundreds, many from frequent posters. Would that make it better? And I don't exactly see the majority of posters here saying anything in opposition to the calls for death and violence. In fact, I really can't recall a single time where I've seen one of your number call out another for going to far.

I just want to state, for the record, that I have posted a virtually identical post on some far left websites as well, the ones that purport that all conservatives are greedy, racist hillbilies. It's just that instead of telling them all the things in Vermont that are similar to their way of life, I talk to them about all the things in Tennessee that are similar to their way of life.

I talk about how southerners are NOT greedy for being anti tax, they just believe that it should be up to an individual how they want to give their money, not the government. People that live in states with lower taxation rates give more money to charity than states with higher rates of taxation. Red cities and states tend to have higher levels of community involvement and volunteerism than blue ones.

I talk about how I know plenty of interracial couples. In fact, I have seen many more interracial couples down south than I have up north. Granted there's more black people down south, but the point still stands. I point out that my church back in Tennessee is filled with white, black, asian, and hispanic people.

I could go on and on. I actually voted for McCain this last election, but to be honest, I am not a very political person. I don't really like either major party, and I only voted for McCain because he had more experience both politically and militarily.

It just greatly saddens me to see how divided we have become as a country, when in reality most of the claims by either extremes (liberals are hippie pussy anti gun patouli wearers, conservatives are racist inbred idiots) are not true for 90% of liberals or conservatives

John I've called people out several times. I have no use for mindless hatred, and the majority of the mindless hatred on this site comes from various liberal trolls, often masquerading as conservatives.

If you'd like to respond to the substance of my previous comment, I'm all ears (or eyes, whichever).

At this point, you're sounding like a typical liberal drone who classifies anything they disagree with as "hate speech." Save your indignance because I can assure you we don't care.

I just want to state, for the record, that I have posted a virtually identical post on some far left websites as well... I could go on and on. I actually voted for McCain this last election, but to be honest, I am not a very political person. ... It just greatly saddens me to see how divided we have become as a country...

Get off the cross, we need the wood.

hmmm, I've yet to see it and I certainly don't see it in this thread. and what do you consider to be the "substance" of your post?

this is an obviously joking but still pretty good representation of what I'm talking about:

http://graphjam.com/2008/11/12/song-chart-memes-us-political-belief/

Yeah, that's a really gay protest costume. Ours are MUCH cooler!

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Nudists attack Swingers for giving nakedness a bad name

Investigators suspect “fundamentalist” naturists of harbouring a grudge against the échangistes, or swingers, who are drawn to the town by the promise of sex.

A so-called boîte échangiste, or wife-swapping club, called Glamour, where couples engage in group sex, was the first to be razed, in April. The next day the Palme Ré, another orgy venue, went up in flames. In September the Tantra club and Zen, its neighbouring bar, were destroyed in blazes.

Nobody was hurt but the fires have shocked a community whose crime rate has been dominated until now by cases of exhibitionism. [...]

Some in Cap d’Agde attribute the fires to fundamentalist “mullahs of chaste nudity”, as one magazine called them, who have often harangued holiday-makers venturing onto nudist beaches in bathing costumes. Others denied that naturists could have been involved.

From a cultural standpoint, it appears the controversy stems from a perception of the fundamental naturists that the swingers are giving them a bad name. Imagine that. People who run around naked want to protect their reputation from being sullied by other people who run around naked and have sex.

No Marriage for Gays in CA because Democratic Party Voters ensured that Yes on 8 won.

Just had to say that.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

The future of home protection under Obama

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At
least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.

You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.
Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you
shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find
an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities
acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.
But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve
to Die."
The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

The judge sentences you to life in prison...

This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

Compare what the press reported on the above case: Bleak world of the loner who killed

Eccentric, outspoken, lonely, loony and highly strung: all words used by friends and neighbours to describe Tony Martin, the farmer convicted yesterday of the murder of a 16-year-old boy who broke into his isolated farmhouse one night last August.
Many people in the Fen villages near Emneth in Norfolk believed the "weird" farmer to be harmless. But others, who had heard him espouse his hatred for burglars and what he would do with them if he caught them, had taken to giving Martin a wide berth.

Apart from thieves, Martin's pet hate was Gypsies. Norwich crown court heard that the farmer had talked of putting Gypsies in the middle of a field, surrounding it with barbed wire and machine gunning them. Fred Barras, the boy he killed, was both of these things: a Gypsy and a thief.

Martin - said to wear only navy blue - lived alone, nurturing apples along with his deep hatreds. One look at his bizarre home, appropriately named Bleak House, gives a fair insight into the character of the man.

The last of the US Govt mandated eco kookery cars

Democrats are suggesting, however, an even more ambitious reason to nationalize. Once the government owns Detroit, it can remake it. The euphemism here is “retool” Detroit to make cars for the coming green economy.

Liberals have always wanted the auto companies to produce the kind of cars they insist everyone should drive: small, light, green and cute. Now they will have the power to do it.

In World War II, government had the auto companies turning out tanks. Now they would be made to turn out hybrids. The difference is that, in the middle of a world war, tanks have a buyer. Will hybrids? One of the reasons Detroit is in such difficulty is that consumers have been resisting the smaller, less powerful, less safe cars forced on the industry by fuel-efficiency mandates. Now Detroit would be forced to make even more of them.

A few years ago the State of California, in its infinitesimal wisdom, told the car companies they had to make a car with no emissions. This was GM’s offering, the EV1.

And here is how that whole thing worked out.

Even today, the two-seat GM EV1 remains one of the best-engineered, best-working pure electric vehicles ever released to the public. With clever engineering throughout its aluminum structure, an incredibly aerodynamic body and a whole bunch of lead-acid batteries, the first-generation EV1 was able to go maybe 75 miles if driven with extreme care. The second-generation EV1 with nickel-metal-hydride batteries upped that range to about 150 miles.

The problem with the EV1 was that it was almost impossible to drive in traffic with anything approaching the ideal technique the car needed to stretch its range. So its real world range was often down around 40 miles and driving it was often a white-knuckle thrill ride as the driver tried to stretch out every last electron to make it to a charging station.

GM built the EV1 to satisfy a mandate from the state of California that 2 percent of a manufacturer’s fleet sold there be zero-emissions vehicles (that number would rise to 10 percent by 2003). However, the EV1 and electric vehicles built by other manufacturers finally convinced the California Air Resources Board that the zero-emissions mandates weren’t achievable by then-current technology. This led to the cancellation of the mandate.

Annonymous,

The problem is that you're confusing Republicans with a political party. They aren't. They used to be a very respectable one. Now, however, they have run uot of ideas completely and have nothing left to run on but hate.

Look at, for example, Peggy Noonon. They dared to question the selection of Palin as VP. PLENTY of democrats complained about Obama and or Biden and or Obama's cabinet picks. Debates ocurred, but no one said these dissenters should be cast out of the party. However, when a Republican questioned Palin, they were thrown under the bus, completely bashed by her party.

Joe Lieberman gets welcomed back after campaigning for the other party, but with Republicans, if you ever question anything, you get lynched. If you state that you don't want to hate people, they lynch you. It's not enough to vote the way they want or champion their causes, if you do ANYTHING on your own terms, Republicans want you gone. But the most important important thing is that you must hate people.

Look at this thread, someone says "Gee, I don't want to hate people" and the responses are "DIE YOU BASTARD! WE WANT YOU TO DIE BECAUSE YOU WON'T HATE WHO WE HATE" OR "Well, uif you don't hate people,then we don't even want you on our side. We only want people who hate other people, anyone else is not welcome" or "ah ha, you're probably a liar! You must be a liberal trying to make us look bad, because EVERYONE hates people! We cannot imagine a world in which people don't want to kill anyone who thinks differently from us"

Of course this is why Republicanism is dying. Man cannot live on hate alone. A gallup poll shows that 60% of the nation identifies themselves as centrist, and wants to seek compromises on issues like the environment, taxation, and social programs. The Democrats have recognized this and gone more centrist. The right, in their panic, became MORE right wing and vengeful and it just backfired. And they're not letting up, so obviously they're going to keep losing elections. Over half the population voted for Obama, and the right talks about how much it hates everyone who not only voted for Obama, but who didn't champion Palin hard enough, or who didn't wear shiny enough shoes to the convention. So they will continue to alienate people and will probably be dead as a party within 20 years.

There's a reason they say Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

And by the way thanks for this guys! Because I for one AM a Democrat, and I am emailing this web page to every moderate I know, so they can see that Republicans enforce hatred within their ranks and wish death upon fellow Americans.

I really am curious what political party will spring up in your wake for the conservative moderates to join? You guys will be relegated to the American Nazi Party (which does exist, lucky for you).

You guys probably danced in the streets when 9/11 happened, didn't you? All those liberals burned to a crisp! It must have been like Christmas AND your birthday all at once!

Hey Bethany why don't you check out this liberal hat site. www.rense.com then you will see what a fucking hypocrit you really are.

John take some prozak you mindless sheeple. Go back to your shepard.

I'm pissed todat people! Want to know why? Just foud out that the reporter in Arkansas, you know the beautiful Presly girl, was mudered by a african american. Most likely a dem. I am so out raged by this I can't keep my cool. Violent Demacrat. Probably voted for the OREO. Oh by the way they have DNA evidence.

Unh-huh. But I guess hate doesn't count when it is spewed by Bethany's (a.k.a. Shana's) beloved Democrats.

What's that? The Miming Nun?

Posted by: Paco at November 26, 2008 6:45 AM

They're called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Go to zombietime.com and look through some of the gay pride stuff there, they are a fixture at that kind of event around SF.

Posted by: Bethany at November 27, 2008 7:04 AM

Look at this thread, someone says "Gee, I don't want to hate people" and the responses are "DIE YOU BASTARD! WE WANT YOU TO DIE BECAUSE YOU WON'T HATE WHO WE HATE" OR "Well, uif you don't hate people,then we don't even want you on our side.

Oh. That must be one of those minorities who are not representative of all conservatives. Pay no attention to the post in question. Isn't that the liberal defence when people on your side say stupid things - which is pretty much all the time?

We only want people who hate other people,

No, really. Try going to DailyKos or somewhere and mentioning that you work in the oil industry and are happy and fulfilled with your job. Compare and contrast.

...anyone else is not welcome" or "ah ha, you're probably a liar!

So - the point of your entire post is to repeat dialogue that has been written here, but in terms that represent your understanding of the dynamics of the conversations in which said dialogue occurred?

That's how you spend your time?

Do you have a life at all? I mean really.

You must be a liberal trying to make us look bad, because EVERYONE hates people!

Um the only liberals trying to make us look bad are the ones who attempt to parody what they think are our positions on various issues, in an attempt to imply that we are hateful fascist bigots or whatever other random hyperbolic combination of epithets is the order of the day when addressing conservatives.

We cannot imagine a world in which people don't want to kill anyone who thinks differently from us"

Hey, Bethany - how about this: ever thought that, rather than approximately 50% of the population of America being unable to imagine a world in which people don't want to kill anyone who thinks differently from them, that you might perhaps be failing to understand what they are actually saying, or deliberately misrepresenting it?

I mean - is it more likely that around 50 million adults in the US who support republicans and republicanism are intolerant, violent, sociopathic bigots; or that you are just too dumb, ignorant, or unconcerned to actually listen to what those people really think and why they think it? And please, don't try to make with the patronising "oh but you guys are on the fringe, your views are much more extreme, most republicans and conservatives are centrists compared to you." It's such a transparent and ridiculous concern-trolling tactic - and it's also pretty presumptuous to make out that you, someone who cannot even begin to comprehend the conservative mindset and who demonstrates that clearly with every comment you make here, would know more about conservatives and conservativism than actual conservatives do. I mean, really. It's also extremely narcissistic to just assume that people who you don't know, don't understand, and don't listen to, think like you do simply because you think your views are correct ones - which appears to be precisely what you are doing here.

Of course this is why Republicanism is dying.

That's funny. Your guy won with the same vote total as John Kerry when he lost to George Bush, and when running against a centrist, moderate opponent. On the basis of the last two presidential election results you are entirely mistaken if you think centrist views are what conservatives are looking for.

And if you were at all attuned to movements in the political sphere you would be well aware that the split between Clinton and mainstream/Obama factions within the Democrats is growing wider every day and threatening the party far more than is a single election loss for the Republican party.

Man cannot live on hate alone.

Hey - we only hate certain aspects of certain lifestyles or belief systems. YOU are the ones who hate conservatism, capitalism, free markets, the energy sector, the oil industry, the armed forces, Israel, Republicans, Mormons, people who wave flags or indulge in "jingoism," Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, people who oppose gay marriage, people who hold their own religious beliefs more important than your social philosophies, people who work in finance, CEOs, people who earn more than a certain amount, people who drive cars that supposedly contribute to supposed global warming, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

You're projecting, as usual.

A gallup poll shows that 60% of the nation identifies themselves as centrist, and wants to seek compromises on issues like the environment, taxation, and social programs.

Strange that 48% of the nation just voted Republican then. Stranger still that a greater percentage voted for Bush four and eight years ago despite him being less likely than McCain to compromise on any of the issues you mentioned.

The Democrats have recognized this and gone more centrist.

By electing the senator with the most liberal record in the entire senate as their candidate?

The right, in their panic, became MORE right wing

By nominating John McCain? Is this backwards-land, or something?

and vengeful

Elaborate. Vengeful in what way? It seems to me - and most rational people - that the only vengeful ones are the ones on the left who want to GET THE RICH who've apparently gotten off scot free these last few years when they should be punished for their success, whether or not it benefits anyone else. Honestly does it get tiring projecting so much?

and it just backfired.

Ah, no. Reaching across the aisle, bipartisanship, centrism and all the other crap that McCain has spent the last two decades engaging in is what failed. Again: McCain's vote total was less than Bush's. Explain that fact in light of the contention you are attempting to support.

And they're not letting up, so obviously they're going to keep losing elections.

Obviously. Because conservatives have lost one in the last three and three in the last seven. It's clearly a go-nowhere strategy.

Over half the population voted for Obama, and the right talks about how much it hates everyone who not only voted for Obama, but who didn't champion Palin hard enough,

Hahahahahahahahaha Oh My Good God. You people attacked Palin like no-one has been attacked in living memory. Your treatment of her in the public sphere was equivalent to raping her, cutting off her head and crapping down her throat. And from that you get "not championing her hard enough?" And WE'RE the ones who hate, because we didn't support Obama? Hey - one side has spent eight years hanging effigies of the leaders of the other side - including Sarah Palin. One side filmed fantasy videos of Sarah Palin being beaten. One side aired fantasies on national television of her being gang-raped. That wasn't our side. That was you, you disgusting f*ckers.

...or who didn't wear shiny enough shoes to the convention.

??

So they will continue to alienate people and will probably be dead as a party within 20 years.

After losing one election in three? Again - you might want to check out what the Clinton/Obama power struggle is doing to the Democrats. Y'all stand for nothing and fall for anything, it's quite incredible you've managed to stay together this long, to be honest.

There's a reason they say Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

Um no. They don't say that.