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American Jews are generally of the self-hating variety - self destructive. Not all, just 4/5 of them. Its similar to White Guilt syndrome that put Obama in office. Its the only thing that can explain why they vote the way they do.

If Obama told Americas Jews to go to the train station and get into box cars, most of them would do it.

I didn't vote for the oreo cookie and I'm Jewish. Neither did any of my family. Not even my 93 year old grandmother. Hey anonymous @ 12:02 pm! I sure would like to meet up with your stupid ass! Bet you would not say that shit to my face. I got something for your dumbass and it will be slow and very painful you fuck! I'll throw you in the box in pieces! do yourself a favor and hang yourself. I'll buy the rope for your stupid ass!!

I used to apologize for jews a lot. Our society is indeed Judeo/Christian but I'm done. Fuck jews.

Posted by: Daman at November 6, 2008 12:32 PM

Tell your people to pull their heads out of their asses. What is it with jews and leftwing politics? They've been leftwing for the entirety of the modern era. It has nothing to do with the holocaust and hitler being perceived as rightwing, either. Jews were leftist well before that. Enough. They're like mexicans and blacks now in my book. They'll never be friends of America or of American values. Fuck'um!!

Hey Damen, don't get testy. The fact is that 78% of Jews did vote for Obama. Good for you that you were one of the 22% who didn't, but old Anon. has a point though. 78% is pretty close to 4/5 on the mark, and voting for Obama is pretty much like lining up to enter the boxcars. Don't be mad at the messenger, he's just pointing out some obvious facts. Besides, name calling and threats look more like you are from the other side.

I don't get it. The Republicans have always been strongly supportive of Israel. The BO campaign has had a number of anti-semitic instances, muslims in this country are not particularly sympathetic to Judaism, and the tape that the LAT is sequestering probably has anti-Israeli sentiment on it made by BO.

I've had many arguments with left-leaning Jews, older and younger, and like any liberal, the arguments expressed for their politics are never clear.

As the above garabage illustrates.

People from all races and ethnicities voted for either side. It is the left's game to divide people by race, gender and class. Being an American is a decscription of someone's beliefs, not an ethnicity. We need to reject democrat identity politics and form a nation that puills together to uphold principles of freedom. It doesn't matter how one group voted in relation to another, we need to appeal to the votes of individuals. Going down this road will just ensure the continued dominance of liberal racialists.

So McCain pandered to illegal aliens. Has always been very pro Israel and has a very good friend named Lieberman who campaigned faithfully for him, and he joined gangs of 14 and was extremely bipartisan and almost like a democrat. He didn't particularly favor conservative ideas or say conservative things. And he lost.

This is now supposed to mean that the conservative viewpoint has failed.

What it means is that it does absolutely no good to pander to the Jewish vote. They will vote for Democrats no matter what kind of mad dog (imagine somebody even worse than Obama) foaming-at-the-mouth Jew hating SOB is running as the Democratic candidate.

It does no good to try to buy the Hispanic vote with compromises or amnesty. They will vote for Democrats and promises over reality every time. This would be true even if the Democrat was rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps and the Republican was giving them complete amnesty and full citizenship with free health care and college education. The Democrat would simply say through its pet media that it was the other way around and they would vote for the Democrat.

With Jews and Hispanics it seems sincere lies always trump simple truth.

Don't forget that the Jews were also for Stalin who later made their lives miserable.

I see history repeating itself.

There are many stories about 'Jewish Guilt' and,
apparently, this is the reason they voted for Obama.

The majority of American Jews are non-observant, and therefore have no vested interest in Judaism or Israel. Observant Jews understand what they face under Obama, and rightly voted for McCain.

I want go down like that People. If history wants gto repeat itself then I'll take as many of you with me as I can before I go. Hey ckickin shit anonymous want go for for a ride? While my people were eating with forks and knives your people were swinging through the trees and rubbing sticks together to make fire!

I want go down like that People. If history wants gto repeat itself then I'll take as many of you with me as I can before I go. Hey ckickin shit anonymous want go for for a ride? While my people were eating with forks and knives your people were swinging through the trees and rubbing sticks together to make fire!

I want go down like that People. If history wants gto repeat itself then I'll take as many of you with me as I can before I go. Hey ckickin shit anonymous want go for for a ride? While my people were eating with forks and knives your people were swinging through the trees and rubbing sticks together to make fire!

SnowSnake you have a point re the Jews; they do seem committed to the Democrats no matter what.

Not so sure about the Hispanics. I think they could be pried away from the left. Hispanics are generally hard-working, macho, and very family-oriented. Many of the core Democratic values - e.g., abortion and encouragement of homosexuality - are anathema to them. So I haven't given up on them.

Sorry for the multiposts.

When Obama kisses EuroAss and forces Israel to give up East Jerusalem and the Palestinian's 'right of return' to get his Nobel Peace Prize I don't want to hear one f'n OI Vay!

You made your knish, now eat it!

Then how do you explain this?

Obama’s ‘Zionist’ Chief Of Staff
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=318

Daman sounds demented. His rage must be either made up or he is just an idiot. European Jews have always embraced socialism whether it be from Stalin, Hitler or even FDR. Until this election, I have always been of the belief that the vile and the atrocities the Jews suffered during Stalin's and Hitler's reign gave them the right to demarcate their homeland back in 1948 even to the snubbing of the Palestinians. After all, the Jews were systematically executed, displaced and tortured.

Not now.

How can Jews support the Obamanation after being praised by Hamas, Ahmadenijad and other deniers of the holocaust? Republicans have always been the Jews best friend when all others have left their cause. This election has opened my eyes and now I see the Jew as one who wants to be treated badly. The reason for this I haven't a clue. If we give and give and give and they still do not get who their friends are and who their enemies are than why should I care if Iran nukes them? It sounds bizarre and evil, but why should, if the case ever arises, Americans risk one precious life saving those that vote alongside their enemy? Our Lord and savior was Jewish but how would he feel if his People chose those that wish them death over those that wish them well?

Well they say the Jews own the media, its not very surprising

In the end they want to be part of big brother, payback for being mocked as cheapskates all their lives

Jay Guevara

I haven't given up on Hispanics. I better not--they are part of my family. I was writing about now.

What I think will happen in the future is that the demographics are changing so they will be a bigger force than Blacks in this country. They will have their own leaders with Hispanic names and they will reflect the conservative values they accept and some of the liberal ideas they accept. They won't listen to a bunch of Repulican white guys or a bunch of Black Democrats telling them anything until they have this established power base.

The Republican white guys better be listening to them. A lot of the Hispanic leaders will not be traditional conservatives or liberals. They are going to take a big slice out of the pie and Republican and Democrats can have what is left.

This is the consequence of tens of millions of people coming to this country and staying. They bring their values and ideas and make their own contributions. I think the Democrats may have outsmarted themselves--they thought that they could force Hispanics into a dependency role that would support Democrats forever. It is not going to happen that way!

Come one, please don't confuse a liberal, secular and deluded Amercian Jewish population with Israel. So maybe the American Jews think Obama has a better way to secure a Middle East peace; they are not the first or last people to put their faith in a populist authoritarian. They're fools, not evil. The Israelis are disgusted by Obama, but what can they do--dis the idiot before they know what he will propose. They loved Bush but Rice was truly a zero-all words, no action. In the spring Netanyahu will be PM of Israel. He is committed to destroying the Iranian nuc program (Persium delenda est). Will Obama try to block the Israeli attack?

Not this Jew or his sister and her family. Mom on the other hand has been an NEA life member liberal all of my life(54) My time in the Senior Service must have been my "downfall"
Obama=Liar, Coward, Traitor.

Meh. Like we don't have enough problems without provoking ethnic strife.

A conservative is a conservative. I don't care how many members of his ethnic group are liberals, no man can answer for anyone else but himself.

Leave the collectivist crap to the left, where it belongs.

I've never understood the siren call leftist politics exerts on Jews. Its attraction to blacks is understandable: they figure they'll be rounded up economically. But why do Jews subscribe to it? I seriously would very much like to know why the Soros's, Lewis's, Bings, Burkels, etc. want income redistribution. It seems to me that, having achieved great wealth, they're now agitating to have it taken from them. Obviously I'm missing something (they figure they can circumvent taxes?), but I'm not clear on what. To me it looks like bulls coming out in favor of bullfighting.

This is a serious question. I would appreciate any enlightenment that anyone can offer.

Obama named Rahm Emmanuell his chief of staff.

Your assumptions were and still are wrong.

I'm Jewish too and couldn't be more anti-Obama. Don't write off all Jews ("Fuck'um"? Stay classy, "Anonymous" - if that is your real name).

I don't care that Rahm Emanuel is Jewish. That's not why the One picked him. It's because he's a liberal and for Jewish liberals, liberalism trumps Judaism. Period.

http://VocalMinority.typepad.com
Sanctuary for Jewish Republicans

It has always puzzled why politicians in this country have to court the favor and approval of the Israelis/America Jews. It is as absurd as courting the favor of the French, the British, etc.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a President who put America 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th?

Some of you guys that call youselves conservative have no class what so ever. Yes I'm a jew and anti Obama. You need to understand where the anger that Daman comes from. I would be careful with jews like him because he's the kind that has had enough. Get real you haters and act like true conservatives and not like right wing Nazis.

The fact that you still believe that Obama is a liberal tells me two things. One, you have no idea what liberal means and two, you are so far right you should consider joining the National Socialist White People's Party.

The choice of Emanuel tells me that Obama has already abandoned the liberals.

Confused in Michigan. You are confused. It was in May of 1946 that Israel got its independents. Get your facts right and all these muslim extremist didn't congradulate Obama until after all was said and done. Yes I'm angry. I have put up with that racist shit all my life. I also live In Memphis which happends to 75% Black. I hear from them to. I will not turn away from this stuff any more. I'm to old for that. No I'm not demented nor am I an idiot but I mean what I say. I've seen photos of a death camp from my own grandfathers cameras eye at age 13 and from that time until now I swore to myself that I will never bow my head. I will take as many with as I can if history decided to repeat again. Believe that.

You guys are unbelievable, totally priceless and one of the reasons why I still support Israel: i.e. that anti-Semitism is still alive and ready to rear its ugly head any time and for any reason. Republicans predictably lose a mediocre campaign, and hops: let's blame the Jews! Petty vindictiveness on the part of a few ankle-biting conservatives of your particular variety and its finds what on this thread is apparently the path of least resistance: vile anti-Semitism. Because this has now gone way past the realm of reasoned critique or satire...

I found this thread yesterday and was naively hoping some moderator or other would have tried to intervene. Instead I found an additional two more clearly anti-Semitic statements.

I really suggest that people, perhaps Jews in particular, reread the statement that's at the core of this blogpost:

"If Hitler were on the ballot, he would win the Jewish vote based on his socialist policies — if not on the depraved self-hatred at the heart of liberal politics."

It's hard to think of something that must be more offensive to most Jewish people, liberal, republican or otherwise...

Soro's and the others keep most of their money in off shore accounts in places like Switzerland. higher taxes wont affect them

But it will affect the prols, and that is the whole point. To get them addicted to gov, then they can finally tell Americans what to do

Gert

Let's go in the future a few years and revisit your statement. Here's what somebody like you will write someday:

"If Obama were on the ballot, he would win the Jewish vote based on his socialist policies — if not on the depraved self-hatred at the heart of liberal politics."

It's hard to think of something that must be more offensive to most Jewish people, liberal, republican or otherwise...

Gert, there is a pretty good chance that some person who wants to be fair will write that someday. History sometimes does repeat itself. I suggest you read a little history of Germany before people understood exactly what Hitler was. Many Jews thought he could be used and manipulated to satisfy some of their intermediate goals. Then, the Nazis needed somebody to blame. That hasn't changed. Jews have always been and will remain a handy target. What we are trying to say here is that we don't think that's right, but we don't understand why Jews paint the bullseye on their own butts.

I'm Canadian, and Obama's policies are far right to Canadian policies. And things work great here. Our PM is a Conservative Christian, strong on terror, who understands that separation of church and state relies on freedom of religion in the government.
What Americans call Liberal Democrats are Staunch Conservatives in any other country in the West.
Maybe Jews (the secular ones for sure) understand that Palin and the Religious Right need to be marginalized in the 21st Century. Maybe Jews are like the majority of the population, the economy was screwed up, so a change was warranted. Probably a combo of the two.

Atheist Jew

" And things work great here"

Yeah. We meet a lot of happy Canadians in Dr's waiting rooms as they try to get timely medical help. By the way, can you name one major drug developed in Canada by a Canadian Drug Company?

How much trade does Canada do with the US? And what happens to Canada's economy when US is in deep depression? One thing though--terrorists like to come to the US through Canada. Maybe you can sell them something on their way through.
We are expecting a lot of terrorists.

SnowFlake:

With that last comment you've proven yourself to be a complete and partisan idiot.I'll answer your question nonetheless.

This is what we've got here so far:

"If Obama told Americas Jews to go to the train station and get into box cars, most of them would do it.

I used to apologize for jews a lot. Our society is indeed Judeo/Christian but I'm done. Fuck jews.

Tell your people to pull their heads out of their asses. What is it with jews and leftwing politics? They've been leftwing for the entirety of the modern era. It has nothing to do with the holocaust and hitler being perceived as rightwing, either. Jews were leftist well before that. Enough. They're like mexicans and blacks now in my book. They'll never be friends of America or of American values. Fuck'um!!

[...] and voting for Obama is pretty much like lining up to enter the boxcars. Don't be mad at the messenger, he's just pointing out some obvious facts.

With Jews and Hispanics it seems sincere lies always trump simple truth.

Don't forget that the Jews were also for Stalin who later made their lives miserable.
I see history repeating itself.
There are many stories about 'Jewish Guilt' and,
apparently, this is the reason they voted for Obama.

This election has opened my eyes and now I see the Jew as one who wants to be treated badly. The reason for this I haven't a clue. If we give and give and give and they still do not get who their friends are and who their enemies are than why should I care if Iran nukes them? It sounds bizarre and evil, but why should, if the case ever arises, Americans risk one precious life saving those that vote alongside their enemy? Our Lord and savior was Jewish but how would he feel if his People chose those that wish them death over those that wish them well?

Well they say the Jews own the media, its not very surprising"

And that's not anti-Semitic to you? No wonder you think Hitler was a Socialist...

You're a crackpot...

SnowSnake, you have no clue do you?
I'm actually in Canada as I type (on business for my brother's company here) and let me tell you, everything you said couldn't be further from the truth.
Stephen Harper is a Christian and strong on terror, as for abortion rights that was fought years ago with a Henry Morgentaller (I'm sure I'm spelling his name wrong).
They separate church and state very well, they're actually a very moderate down the middle or perhaps right of middle country.
The funny thing is, we could actually learn a thing from them in regards to their government.
While they lack in military spending, they make up for 10-fold in governing their country.
Believe me, I see it first hand once every 5 weeks as I travel here that often.

I'm a registered republican and voted for Obama.
I think he's going to be a moderate democrat and not an extreme leftist as some are scared he will be.
While I don't agree with him on everything, I do agree with him on most things.

I'm going to be taxed more under his plan and so will a handful of people that serve under me in my company. That's fine, I can handle that, so long as he gets our country onto the track I feel is right. First the economy and then getting our troops out of Iraq.

Take care everyone.

Gert

But you didn't answer any of my questions. You used other peoples posts to rant and then call me names. Try to focus.

The only part of your rant that comes from mine is the "With Jews and Hispanics it seems sincere lies always trump simple truth." How do you refute that? You yourself have proven it again with your post.

If you think that I would deny being partisan--you are completely wrong. With respect to the policies of Obama I don't think it would possible to be more against them than I am.

How is it anti-semitic to say that we don't think it is right for Jews to be blamed and to be a target? If you don't agree with this statement of mine, then should I assume that you think Jews should be blamed and should be a target and that if I don't think so I am anti-semitic? This does seem to be an assumption of the very Jewish Guilt that you find offensive.

Hint: It would probably be effective to actually read the posts of the person you are calling names.

Michael Scott

You say I haven't a clue. (I have lived within 10 to 180 miles of Canada for many decades. Some of my family was born there. I expect I have spent more time in Canada than you have.) You did not address even one of the things I mentioned.

The reason they don't need to spend on military is they live under our umbrella. They are good allies and that isn't an attack on Canadians. It is simple fact.

The rest of your post is about your hopes that the economy will get better, that Obama won't screw it up so the War that Bush has won in Iraq will allow the troops to come home, and that you are happy to pay more taxes.

At least you didn't call me names. And we are all entitled to our own opinions--we just are not entitled to our own facts.

SnowSnake, we are 1/10th the size of you by population. For every 10 discoveries you have made, I'm sure we have one or two.
Yes, America's presence protects us to a fairly good degree, I won't argue that. But outside of 9/11, how many attacks has North America had to deal with. You can go back to WW1 if you wish.

You are being nonsensical if you think Obama is going to attract terrorists. Throw some water on your face.

If McCain wanted to get it so badly, he shouldn't have bent over for the Cretarded Right and pick Palin worried that his base wasn't going to vote....they were going to vote. He alienate everyone in the center, all the secularists.

You make a fatal error like that, you pay.

Atheist Jew

we are 1/10th the size of you by population. For every 10 discoveries you have made, I'm sure we have one or two.

That is the point. YOU DO NOT!!

But outside of 9/11, how many attacks has North America had to deal with

Again, since 9/11, my point. THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH!!

You are being nonsensical if you think Obama is going to attract terrorists

Obama eats with terrorists at their table, he starts his political campaign in a terrorist's house, he writes books with terrorists, he has terrorists for his best friends, he is endorsed by terrorists, he accepts campaign money from terrorists, he talks like a terrorist often quoting terrorists, he shares grant money with terrorists, he lectures at symposiums on the same stage with terrorists,....I THINK HE MAY ATTRACT TERRORISTS!!

Actually, you have the point about McCain completely backwards as well. It was the center and the moderates he tried to please. It was the right that he rejected. It was a fatal error--he tried to be bipartisan and to be reasonable with unreasonable people. Palin might have pulled it out for him but he forced her to pull back to his tepid middle-of-the-road position. A vice presidential candidate can not overcome the complete lack of understanding of the presidential candidate. She didn't have a chance.

Snowflake:

"With Jews and Hispanics it seems sincere lies always trump simple truth"

So that was your bit of contribution, huh? Well, I get a lot of racists telling me I can't refute their racism.

You're a racist imbecile, who's obviously found his niche here at WingnutteryCentral...

Do you guys have a job? Or is you job ranting all this garbege. Get a life people!!

Gert

So far you've called me: 1)complete and partisan idiot, 2)You're a crackpot, 3)racist imbecile.

What you haven't done is to offer any kind of reasoned debate.

I don't see why this sort of discourse is your only recourse. Surely, a person who holds themself in the regard you seem to hold yourself can do better than to emulate a feces throwing monkey.

By the way, propaganda from Goebels or from Couric on CBS is the same--sincere lies. It is hardly racist to suggest that some groups of people are susceptible to it. The voting history of Jews and Hispanics suggest that they as a group have been susceptible to it here. I realize that it is now a reflex to point and scream racist at anything and anybody who doesn't conform to your view of the world. I suppose since it has worked so well in this past election that it will become even more prevalent in our society. But it will get absurd when you don't like potato salad or Ford cars and you point and scream racist at anybody eating potato salad or driving a Ford.

"Do you guys have a job? Or is you job ranting all this garbege. Get a life people!!
"Posted by: Watching at November 7, 2008 3:11 PM"

Obviously you don't see the IRONY ion your post.

IRONY: Like "goldy" or "silvery", but not as shiney.

Flaky:

Reasoned debate??? With you?

"With Jews and Hispanics it seems sincere lies always trump simple truth"

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAH!!!

BTW, you forgot to mention that Obama also sleeps with a terrorist. I mean Michelle, to hang out with O., surely she too must be a terrorist?

Did a piece of the WTC hit you on the head on 9/11?

Yes, you are a racist thug, no question about that...

Gert,

Thanks. I missed that! It is the one thing I am not sure of since it is not documented that he actually sleeps with her (the coyote thing!), but if you say so?

This board really isn't for you. You really are out of your weight class.

Snow Flake, they courted the Cretarded Right by picking Palin. The Republicans were worried that the Cretards were going to stay at home.
They pissed off the center, the rational voters who an non partisan.
If they continue appeasing their Cretarded base they will never win another election in the USA going forward.
The Creationist Right are a laughing stock in the world, and thanks to the internet, it is only going to get worse.
Did The Republicans Learn a Lesson?

BTW,Insulin was a pretty big innovation if you ask me.

Also, I think you are an imbecile Snow Snake, JMHO.

Atheist Jew

It is nice that you and your ilk always carefully label your posts by calling people names. It is so easy to identify you. As to the only point in your post worth addressing:

BTW,Insulin was a pretty big innovation if you ask me

Insulin was discovered in 1921 by Banting and Best.

In 1946 the first Canadian province introduced universal health coverage (Saskatchewan)

My original point was "can you name one major drug developed in Canada by a Canadian Drug Company?"

So to show how much the Canadian Health Care system supports drug research and that there is drug discovery in Canada supported by drug companies, you reach back to 1921 and name insulin. Banting even had to sell his car to support his work. He and Best were hardly a drug company. What they did was a wonderful achievement and something Canada can be proud of. What they accomplished was not was a triumph of socialized medicine. And it certainly is not any kind of endorsement 89 years later for the state of health care in Canada.

The truth of the matter is that Republicans are no less anti-semetic (as we can see here) than any other group.

Jewish Americans are critical thinkers and more intelligent than your average American. Most of them graduate from high school and college with honors, they are self-sufficient, rarely do you find them on welfare, most of them are in very professional careers, and they make more money than your average American.

They are family oriented, good looking, get married and have children.

Nothing matches Jewish intelligence. THAT'S why they vote for Democratic presidents.

Republicans secretly hate Jews for this. Republicans hate the amount of money Jews make and they are jealous of their success. And to find out that they vote Democrat, only cements that hatred.