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But, IBD, it doesn't matter that signing onto the Kyoto Protocols will hurt the very people who put the Obamanation into office -- surely you get it, don't you? All that matters -- I say again, ALL that matters -- is whatever Obama wants (the "little people" be damned).

And Obama hissef has no idea what he wants, other than to destroy the American economy in order to gain more power over the very people who (stupidly) put him in office -- why do you think he's gone total Clinton administration in every appointment thus far, including even (if she takes it) the Hildabeast hersef? Because he knows of no one else with any kind of experience in governing; he's utterly without executive experience, and knows not what the hell he's going to do, other than impose Marxism everywhere he can -- can't you see that, IBD (normally a great paper with great editorials; looks like wishful thinking on their part, on this issue at least)?

What will america look like after the eco-nazis uner the green swastika look like? HITLER WAS A ENVIROMENTALISTS TO just look up POWER OF PROPHECY and try to get some of their information of the nazis being big time eco-freaks

jc14 is right on!

"We hope that once he realizes this Kyoto deal is intended to economically damage the very people who put him in office, he'll have a change of heart."

Not bloody likely! This insanity plays right into his hands. The One's greeness is pure watermellon (no pun intended). The lower 20% (I would have said quintile, but didn't want to confuse the trolls) will look like the scene in Terminator where the machines are rolling over piles of human bones.

Too late. The republicans and their greedbag buddies on Wall Street already gave us the New, Improved Great Depression.

I do find it amazing how you people are already working feverishly to deflect blame onto someone, anything, besides your own misguided leadership.

Won't work. That's why you don't hold the reins of power anymore.

Dino would you please go suck on a tail pipe of an suv while running......pretty please. OH by the way.......Fuck off you silly bitch!

Dino: There's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Republicans didn't cause the financial crisis. Democrats didn't cause the financial crisis. Bureaucrats caused the crisis, and then simple human greed exacerbated the problem, which the government exacerbated further by bailing them out instead of letting them fail.

Dino your lost and you have no idea about the world around you. Remember Clinton and his idiots in his cabinet. Their back. The Clinton have a new puppet and it's called Obama.

libeater:

there should be a comma after "Dino"

you're, not your

they're, not their

Clintons, not Clinton.

That is an impressive number of errors for such a short post!

Personally, I haven't been optimistic about the GOP's chances to rebuild in 2010 and 2012. I though Chairman 0 might choose a more moderate path and not screw the pooch so badly that his media helicopter parents couldn't cover for him.

But if he tanks the economy with tax increases and unnecessary environmental regulations, and surrounds himself with corrupt Clinton refugees... he might just screw things up badly enough to give the GOP a chance.

Didn't any of the Greenies read the new this week.

The world is now in danger of a new ice age, due to the depletion of green house gases.... So say some scientists
Haven't we heard that before??

Translation: We make this shit up. Send Grant money Please.

As for the UN, it's simply a plot to cobble the US and allow 3rd world countries to advance. Only 3rd world countries could find their back pockets with a road map.

"Personally, I haven't been optimistic about the GOP's chances to rebuild in 2010 and 2012. I though Chairman 0 might choose a more moderate path and not screw the pooch so badly that his media helicopter parents couldn't cover for him.

But if he tanks the economy with tax increases and unnecessary environmental regulations, and surrounds himself with corrupt Clinton refugees... he might just screw things up badly enough to give the GOP a chance."

Elsewhere on this page you say that Obama is Hitler. Now you are saying that he only *might* be so bad that the GOP will get re elected.
You claim that he is going to become a Marxist Nazi dictator and is drafting a private civilian army to remain in power. So...why are you even considering elections, since the world which you paint Chairman Obama as inhabiting would clearly not allow for elections?

Elsewhere on this page you say that Obama is Hitler.

Citation please.

The stories:

Hitler Youth Alumnus Has Seen this Before

History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but it Rhymes

Obama's Gestapo

All of these posts offer dire warnings that Obama is following the path of Hitler, especially Obama's Gestapo, which features a picture of Obama in Nazi garb: "If you have anything negative to say about socialism or the global warming hoax, you'd better get it out of your system before this American version of the Gestapo is created, because it will certainly have the resources to discover your errant opinions and readjust them as The One and his friends deem necessary. "

Virtually every thread on this page about Obama refers to Obama as a Marxist or a Nazi and says that all opposition to him will be squelched. Well, if that's the case, he certainly WILL be re-elected won't he, since this page posits that either

A. Obama will simply use his civilian force to maintain power or

B. Free speech and press will be completely eliminated, which of course by default will result in an Obama re-election, as any opposition to him will be silenced.

so again, why are you worried about elections since they will inevitably be controlled by Nazi Obama?

Hitler Youth Alumnus Has Seen this Before - I never even commented in that thread.

History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but it Rhymes - Never commented in that thread, either.

Obama's Gestapo - Made one comment about a ghey talk show host making a death threat. Nothing about Hitler.

So, in addition to being a chickensh!t who won't even sign his post, you're either a liar or an idiot. Which is it, and please choose carefully.

Two broken fingers and pain killers.Stuck at home and very bored I'm tired of Dino for being such an idiot. Glad you'er impressed. I was speaking about Bill only not Hillary and Bill. This lesson is over. Go monitor someone else troll.

So brainstems, the 435 point drop in the DOW today- Obama's fault, right?

spelled you're wrong just to poke fun of you chickenshit anonymous. Go back to watching kiddy porn libby boy. Maybe Dino is on the site that you go to the most. Fucking idiot troll!

No dino it's your fault.

Hey anonymous! You gonna monitor my spelling as well. I didn't capitalize Dino's troll screen name. Do I not get a star.

I have a question for Dino, who I am glad to have here on this board. When I troll HuffPost I simply can't engage in a debate on any issue. I just get called a Nazi within the first post.

Dino, these are some of the positions Obama has reversed himself on. I don't blame him - all politicians do that, and all politicians have to get elected. Comes with the territory, and everybody has to do it.

My question to you is how this situation is viewed by the Left, since they are basically conservative positions? Obama's base would never have given him the time of day if he had done the following back then:

- Mr. Obama now supports a Bush-backed bill granting legal immunity to communications companies who cooperate with federal surveillance efforts to intercept terrorist calls or e-mails.

- Obama's endorsement of the Supreme Court's overturning of the D.C. handgun ban was a surprising reversal.

- From the beginning, Obama's symbolic 2002 position on Iraq has been very promising, reinforced again and again by his campaign pledge to "end the war" in 2008. In January 2007 Barack Obama introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 into Congress. A phased withdrawal of U.S. troops with start in 2007 with removal of all combat brigades by March 31, 2008.

- Post-election, Obama told reporters that he would "continue to refine" his Iraq policy. Associated Press argued that Obama's "problem" was "his change in emphasis to flexibility from a hard-nosed end-the-war stance including his recent position that withdrawing combat troops could take as long as 16 months."

- In the rust belt and other rural areas, he attacked the NAFTA free-trade agreement promising to end it completely, replaced by a number of protectionist solutions to economic problems.

- Post-election, Terry McAuliffe writes that "the President-elect suggests he doesn't want to unilaterally blow up NAFTA after all".

- On his former opposition to the death penalty, Obama surprised some observers by siding with the hardline minority of Justices Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. At a press conference after the decision, Obama said, "I think that the rape of a small child, six or eight years old, is a heinous crime and if a state makes a decision that under narrow, limited, well-defined circumstances the death penalty is at least potentially applicable, that that does not violate our Constitution."

- His former total opposition to drilling "under any circumstances" has also suddenly softened. Obama also reiterated his statement Friday that he could support limited new offshore drilling if it were needed to enact a compromise energy policy to foster fuel-efficient autos and alternative energy sources. He spoke warmly of a compromise proposed Friday by 10 moderate to conservative senators from both parties.

"Democracy cannot exist without strong differences. And going forward, some of you may decide that my FISA position is a deal breaker. That's OK, but I think it is worth pointing out that our agreement on the vast majority of issues that matter outweighs the differences we may have," he said.

To followup those quotes are from MSM sources, not mine.

C'mon Anonymous... fess up. Liar? Idiot? Both?

Since Chairman 0 was elected, the stock market has closed up on only 2 days.

Chairman O has promised to increase the capital gains tax rate and the corporate tax rate next year. It's logical that people would be selling their stocks now rather than pay the higher tax rate, correct?

Thank you Air2air for that wonderful post. Dino what say you? Hey chickenshit anonymous why don't you answer V the K's question. Hands all tide up watching that kiddy porn? Looking for Dino on that site? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

If I'm a "brainstem" Dino is a sphincter.

The stock market is all about confidence in the future. When confidence is high that good days are ahead, the market goes up, and when it is not it goes down. If Obama was going to fix the nation's economic problems, or at least if investors believed he would/could, the market should go up. Instead, it is declining. Is it Obama's fault? Partly. At the very least it is a sign that his economic policies don't exactly inspire confidence.

Since President Obama hasn't taken office and won't for a couple of months, your conclusions as to his positions on any issue are merely speculation.

I have no illusions that he will govern from a hard left position just as a republican wouldn't govern from the far right. My personal politics would not be, er, palatable or realistic given the 30 years of conservatism that has taken us to this dark place. No leader could take us back to 1979 without a revolution.

That said, if things get really bleak, you can bet that socialism in a particularly virulent form could be instituted. If 25% of the people are unemployed and out of options, the government had better respond witht some serious solutions or the 75% with money and especially the top 10% will not be safe leaving their dwellings. Americans won't suffer with 40-60% poverty like they do in South America. Your side would be the first to start killing the ones at the top of the heap in a fit of desperate violence. They're the crazies.

That's pretty much what Roosevelt told the rich back when. Either start sharing or end up dead.

Perhaps you brainstems could step back and let the man take office before declaring him a total failure. But alas, that won't happen. Opposing the left is all you people can manage with your limited intellects.

Sure guys. The market is "anticipating" a bad Obama presidency. SOunds about right. Shift that timeframe whichever way suits your bizarre visions.

The markets tanked because republicans ran us aground. Or perhaps the housing bubble was due to people wanting to capitalize on the housing hysteria in 2005 before Obama announced his candidacy and ruined it all?

I'll never convince you. It was once said that one has a better chance reasoning with a rutting bull elephant than reasoning with a republican who smells money. You all still hold tight to the fantasy of a life without taxes while retaining all the perks of a first rate country.

Idiots.

Your conclusions as to his positions on any issue are merely speculation.

No, they are the positions he advocated as a candidate.

Oh, I forget, the left didn't even bother to look at his positions.

It was once said that one has a better chance reasoning with a rutting bull elephant than reasoning with a republican who smells money. You all still hold tight to the fantasy of a life without taxes while retaining all the perks of a first rate country.
~Dino

You still hold to the fantasy of socialism.

Your quote sounds more like a communist line, something like: "You have a better chance of reasoning with a rutting animal than with a Capitalist who smells money."

Your side isn't going to win, Dino; the side of Statism, I mean. Reality will out.

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into." - Jonathan Swift

IOW: There's no reasoning with socialists.

VtK, Kevin, everybody....

Responding to the likes of DinoDogFezDipshit is an exercise in futility. You might as well be trying to convince the cultists in Jonestown not to drink the koolaid. Personally, I'm chuckling at the knowledge that, while Dino is dancing in the street to celebrate the glory of his Messiah, I'm buying rice, beans, bulluts, and gold. I know what's coming. When Dino (or his kind) come to break into my house & steal my food, I'll have a very loud, very large caliber answer to them.

Pity this idiot. He's never lived through anything close to the economic crunch we're going to feel for the next few years. I have, and I know how to deal with it. He doesn't, and won't until he's shown in REAL LIFE what happens when an idiot president implements the same policies that were used to 'protect' us in 1930.

Silly Hiram. We'll take your guns long before you get to use them. Think Waco.

What good will gold do you in an anarchy?

Jimbo, swallow the beer before reading below.

Dino, Come on over to take my guns. I'll be more than happy to invite you into my abode.

Oh, please bring lots of your like minded friends. I'll provide the entertainment :-)

Jimbo, it is now safe for you to drink again.

I do feel bad for the conservatives. When I go to the websites of their liberal counterparts, I find entry upon entry of accomplishments from their prominent members, and their ideas for the future in virtually every sphere: environment, business, politics, etc. Then, in addition, there are all the entries complaining about things conservatives have done.

The conservatives, however, have had no accomplishments or ideas since Reagan. That is why there is not a single entry on this web page that is not simply bitching about something liberals have done.

What's more, when the libs bitch about something that conservatives, they often will say what their counter argument is for how to handle that situation, or how it should have been handled. The offer answers of their own. There is none of that here. Just "bitch bitch bitch, whine whine whine. Then end"

Anon, that's because conservatives are walking brainstems a la Oiao and Hiram. They're as ignorant as they are clueless.

Look at how they react with childish promises of violence. Can't wait until President Obama's men storms their homes like Reno did in Waco. That bitch was HARSH!

Anon,
Blaming W for everything that goes wrong in the world is not offering a counter argument on how things should be done.
Dimo,
Please come on out to the farm and try and take my .30.30 Winchester. Just remember to kiss mommy goodbye before you do.

Silly Dino. I'll shoot anyone who tries to take my guns.

What good will "hope" and "change" be worth when a loaf of bread is $23.00?

Hiram, you're absolutely correct. It's just that this Dino thing is so thoroughly and completely ugly. It's as if James Carville had decided to go trolling.

Dino, your faith in the gov't is not as strong as what you taunt.

Everyone knows that the gov't can't possibly "take" everyone's firearms, ammo, weapons across the board, across the USA. That is impossible. The barn door has been open on that issue since the first europeans came here.

Your childish argument that it will happen is you just trying to get a rise out of people.

Yes, mentally, you are a child.

When the shit hits the fan, people who are very aware of what must be done to survive will be the ones eating your dog, cat, pet bird or whatever you have, drinking your wine and watching your body, and your gay lover's body grow cold on the ground.

Fact of life and death.

Those that know do, and those who can't act like you.

You are a brave keyboard warrior, snort, and a barely marginal (mostly on the poor side) troll.

Go ask Stalin or Castro how tough liberals can be.

We will bury you.

Please let me get this back on topic. The man-made global warming crisis is a hoax. Can we really take a couple of hundred years (if that) of data in a several billion year stream and extrapolate anything? Not only that, carbon offsets are a scam. Go get some for free (freecarbonoffsets.com). You'll feel better.

Very weak comeback Child Dino.

The fact is, that if you believe the trash you spew, vice just being a childish punk thinking you are rileing up a bunch of conseratives, I am very comfortable with the knowledge that you will be the first to go when the shit hits the fan.

Your analogy of Stalin or Castro are not applicable to modern day USA.

Grow up, quit being butt hurt over Prop 8 loosing by a resounding DEMOCRATIC PARTY VOTE, and give your gay lover an occasional reach around for me.

Please spay or neuter your Dino. Don't procreate Dino, we have enough retarded fascist democrats in America.

The classic quote leaves out a bit...

And no, Dino, it wasn't Stalin who said it, it was Nikita Khrushchev who said, "we will bury you". This was cropped by the media; what he actually said was, "we shall bury you because we shall out-produce you. History proves him wrong.

While we're on the subject.... here's another quote from the big K...
Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all”

So, Dino, ready to be a prole for the Greater Good tm?

why are y'all still grappling in the mud with dino the pig? i thought that issue was settled: dino is a shrill little gay troll, and therefore not worthy of anyone's time.

one more time, people: if you leave food out for the rats & roaches, you'll soon find yourself with an infestation of rats & roaches. goes for pigs and trolls, too.

Well, it looks like I've been banned here. Typical of conservatives who can't keep up with the liberal intellect to merely silence them.

Sure was fun tormenting you walking brainstems for the past week. I'll thoroughly enjoy imagining how you'll be suffering under the crushing weight of the economic mess created by your kind as well as having to live under a BLACK, LIBERAL President and his rubber stamp DEMOCRAT-CONTROLLED Congress.

Enjoy commiserating in your echo chamber.

Karbon Kenny and all,

I agree, back on topic. Apologies for feeding the troll.

Question for all; What does the current Manmade Global Warming Hoax have as a parallel in previous American History hoaxes on such a national scale? Think Greed and Con Artists + Crooked Gov't Officials.

Flordia Land Speculation in the 20s?

The Ban on DDT?

Other examples?

Asset, I find Dingus fascinating, and I'll tell you why.

Here's a guy (?) that adores Obama, thinks Obama is going to just make everything wonderful ... but he reveals through his posts that he is completely ignorant of Obama's policies. He is also ignorant that those policies have made recessions worse and longer every time they have been tried. Furthermore, he is ignorant that other countries are rejecting and moving away from those policies.

Next, we consider that one critical trait of high intelligence is the capacity for self-examination, the ability to critically examine one's own beliefs. Dingus has displayed zero capacity for that.

Also, people of weaker intelligence attempt to simplify a complex world and refuse to look outside that simplified worldview. Dingus has simplified the world to a simplistic paradigm: Republicans always evil and wrong, Democrats always good and right.

Yet, despite the ignorance revealed in his comments, and despite his failure to demonstrate any of the higher traits of intelligence... Dingus considers himself smarter than anyone else here.

I find that fascinating, don't you?

Just tryin' to wake up the kid is all...

When things turn as ugly as I expect they will, I really don't want to have to shoot his starving lib'ral ass. I'll be ok tho....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg

You trolls from the "big ol' city" like to make fun of us out in 'flyover' country. But where does your food come from?. Good luck with that after Chairman O makes fuel so expensive you can't buy an orange for less than $10.

When the riots start, don't come bitching to us for salvation.... you already have your "Messiah".

Posted by: Oiao at November 19, 2008 4:34 PM

LOL!

Sad thing - I'm still at work, so no beer yet.

I've often said that those who advocate disarming the American Citizenry should be forced (drafted if you will) to serve on the 'gun collection teams'.

Most (if not all) would crap their panties if they had to do the dirty work. Or I should say - ATTEMPT to do the dirty work.

What I find fascinating is that you people can't reason your way out of a paper bag. What I find fascinating is your intense fear of liberals that runs so deep you have to censor their posts on your pathetic blogs. What I find fascinating is your inability to come to terms with the fact that your party has lost EVERYTHING and will be out of power for DECADES for taking this country down to ruin. What I find fascinating is that most of you will suffer and, no wait, I find that HILARIOUS!

"That is why there is not a single entry on this web page that is not simply bitching about something liberals have done." - a troll

I just wanted to point out that the name of this blog is "Moonbattery", so it focuses on things moonbats say and do.

Ditto on Forest's comment, again (done that once or several times in the last year).

Don't pay any attention to me. I'm just a brainwashed college kid who regurgitates everything my college professors and LOGO tell me.

What I find fascinating is your inability to come to terms with the fact that your party has lost EVERYTHING

First of all, it isn't "my party" since I'm not a Republican. Registered Independent.

Second, I don't know what is expected by "come to terms?" Are we supposed to be suicidal with despair? Are we just suppose to give up and drink the socialist Kool-Aid? I reject both of those options. I'll just get along with my life, and argue for what I believe is right.

And if a pathetic left-wing troll can't deal with that, that's his problem. Why should I care what Dingus thinks?

When Dino is outside your home, demanding that he get his "fair share" of your food, will y'all do me a favor?

Put a round through his/her/its head?

Take the kyoto treaty and consign it to the paper shreader before they do it to our constitution like the dems and the UN eco-freaks want to do

hiram,

Ya got it all wrong.

When they are outside demanding, you play "liberal kind soal" and invite them in.

Then you beat them to a pulp with a bat or use the long knife, because ammo will be too valuable to waste on em.

Wasn't me that posted this last comment; but I gladly do it, provided he's threatening me.

I would never take another person's life lightly, but I will if I have to.

Without hesitation.

This even goes for DinoDogFezshana... McTroll, if you will....

Threaten my life, and I will respond in kind. Come to me for help, and I will render it if I can (without material damage to myself or my family).

I took an oath to do as much. Might not mean much to you now, but after a few years of the O, it might be worth something.

Anyone else here ever heard someone say, "I'll wait a time with patience..."?

We're few an far between now. My Lodge has gone from 280 members in 1997 to less than 200 now. I was the Ritual Master for a couple of years,

Happy Ammo Day Hiram!

hiram, Rodger that on last.

Also, and I'll drop this after this post, this is the only firearm that I have experienced that is more intimidating than the venerable 12 guage pump; 45-70 video – owned by god fearing gun clinging rednecks

very good article on the 45-70 from 99

Warning: not recommended for late night indoor use without hearing protection and closing at least one eye (total night blindness from muzzle flash).

Note: 100% proven to stop a home invasion in the middle of the night. Pisses the dog and the wife off real bad also.

OK - I'll get back on topic.

I Buycotted well over my 100 round expectation.

"I'll just get along with my life..."

Good VtheK... get on along! Your type are history... the America is going to progress... or fall apart. The recession/depression is just what people need to wake the fuck up and realize who the enemy really is -Greed, hiding behind fear and hate mongering. (Sounds like somebody's website) If you want to live in the boondocks and not pay taxes fine, just stay out of the cities where people understand better what is needed to live together, party down and enjoy civilization. We'll just add the appropriate export tariff for everything born out of the culture of cities and universities (most things these days, incuding Country Music strangely enough) for those of you that don't want to pay income taxes... including a "civilization entrance fee" when you get bored and need to come into town ...and the "blue" areas will stop federal tax subsidies to the "red" ones. Your all just lucky I'm not God instead of doG. I'd fix your asses good. Ha!

Now if only Fex could get over his/her creepy obsession with me.

V-K -
You're a man of conviction. That's the slimy little creeps' worst nightmare. Your convictions "threaten" them and they pee their panties. They strike out the only way spineless "people" can - with keyboards.

I'm ready to see the insulting little creep get blocked. It adds nothing. It has no coherent thought patterns. Its only purpose is to disrupt and enrage (it fails miserably at the second).

Van - my vote is to kick the little fool off the island. This is the most tolerant blog on the sphere - but in the real world, unrepentant repeat offenders are put to death.

The little fool "Dino" adds no Social Redeeming Value. It is no better than a blood-sucking mosquito. Swat it.

Dino has officially worn out his welcome.

:-)

♪♫ HAP-py days are here again! Hap-py days are here! ♪♫

Too late. The republicans and their greedbag buddies on Wall Street already gave us the New, Improved Great Depression.

I do find it amazing how you people are already working feverishly to deflect blame onto someone, anything, besides your own misguided leadership.

Posted by: Dino at November 19, 2008 12:14 PM

Hey Dino - I notice you're still pretending you haven't read my posts. Go to google, search for "redlining," Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and contributions to Democrats vs Republicans.

It will literally take you no more than five minutes to prove yourself wrong.

I know you won't do it - but unfortunately for you I am going to keep on posting this challenge in every thread in which you mention the economy, to show to others that you won't accept it and demonstrate how little credibility you have.

Also, the economy was doing just fine for 29.5 of the "thirty years" you cite Republicans as having been in power, and its current decline and the precursors to that map PRECISELY to the resurgence of a Democratic party with a say in running the show and trace DIRECTLY to Democratic policies. You aren't going to get away with making emtpy condemnations based on nothing more than who was "in power" at the time. You are a lying coward who won't do a simple five minute google search because you know full well that it would rip the bottom out of your argument and expose it for the empty tripe it is. F*ck you, coward.

Dino has officially worn out his welcome.

Posted by: Van Helsing at November 19, 2008 9:15 PM

VH i know you don't generally ban people but i for one would love to see an exception made in his case.

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IGNORE is on.

I know we're all wondering "Doesn't Dingus have anything better to do than spend every day this week spamming this blog."

Sadly, the answer is no.

Dino has been banned, but apparently he's getting on by using different computers. From now on I'll delete his posts as soon as I see them.

Let us know if you need a hand with that, VH. I had a post-election troll infestation and had to engage comment moderation. I posted the best of the moderated comments, though.

"No leader..." (or post turtle for that matter) "... could take us back to 1979 without a revolution"

Obviously someone who's never been to 1979. Been there, got the T-shirt (and it fell apart in the wash long ago) and never felt a desire to go back. The thing is, the second coming of JC (Jimmuh Cahtuh) is the best of the likely scenarios with this punk in the White House, and it probably WILL be 1979 again before you know it.

Nice ones V the K. I about pissed my pants reading some of thoses. I never laughed so hard in my life.

Here's a cartoon for this topic.

Half the World Economy to Reduce Temperatures by One Quarter of A Degree

Oh, and Gays still can not get married in CA.

Yeah, its getting old, but can't help loving the one victory that harpooned the left right through the progressive soal.