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October 27, 2008

Obama on Using the Supreme Court to Impose Socialism

When The One rambles about Change, those who haven't drunk the Kool-Aid wonder, What kind of change? The answer: Redistributive Change, the kind that strangles economic growth in its crib by letting everyone know that any wealth they create will be confiscated by the government on behalf those who don't deserve it.

Here's Obama proclaiming that the radical Warren Court wasn't radical enough, because it didn't use the power of the Supreme Court to advance the civil rights movement by redistributing wealth — i.e., by imposing race-based socialism.

If this racist Marxist becomes president, it will be the most extreme challenge this country has faced since the Civil War.

Via TD blog. On tips from Gradwell Cottage and Lyle.

Posted by Van Helsing at October 27, 2008 12:15 PM

Comments

He hast been corinated as our emporer and already he is setting lose his brownshirts NOBAMA 08

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at October 27, 2008 12:33 PM

"If this racist Marxist becomes president, it will be the most extreme challenge this country has faced since the Civil War."

Is there anything worse than wussy fake-victim white male paranoia? Yes - and the list includes jock itch, Jim Rome and dogs wearing clothes. But it's oh-so close.

Personally, I can't wait until King Hussein Obama, terrorist Nazi, takes all of your whitey-money and deports you from the caliphate - but I was told not to talk about that. Yet.

Posted by: brs04wsc at October 27, 2008 3:22 PM

Why does it seem that so few people are able to understand the spoken word. Obama was not castigating the Warren court. He was lamenting that their efforts were dependent on the courts for results. He even says, with deliberate clouding, that the civil rights efforts should have been directed at legislative involvement. That's what they are doing now and with great success.

Posted by: AlwaysRepublican at October 27, 2008 3:23 PM

Why does it seem that so few people are able to understand the spoken word. Obama was not castigating the Warren court. He was lamenting that their efforts were dependent on the courts for results. He even says, with deliberate clouding, that the civil rights efforts toward redistribution should have been directed to legislative involvement. That's what they are doing now and with great success.

Posted by: AlwaysRepublican at October 27, 2008 3:25 PM

"If this racist Marxist becomes president, it will be the most extreme challenge this country has faced since the Civil War."

Like I said - this is my favoritist new website ever!

WWII? Cold War? Nuclear missles and possible human extiction looming for 40 years?

Nahhhh - Obama's worse!

This is where I remind you guys that YOU named this site Moonbattery to make fun of liberals being crazy - and yet you think Obama's more of a threat than Hitler or Stalin, and you've said in the past that Obama may well go on a killing spree resulting in mass graves.

But liberals are crazy, of course.

it's just so fuckin' funny. these jokes literally write themselves...

Posted by: Anonymous at October 27, 2008 3:27 PM

"If this racist Marxist becomes president, it will be the most extreme challenge this country has faced since the Civil War."

Like I said - this is my favoritist new website ever!

WWII? Cold War? Nuclear missles and possible human extiction looming for 40 years?

Nahhhh - Obama's worse!

This is where I remind you guys that YOU named this site Moonbattery to make fun of liberals being crazy - and yet you think Obama's more of a threat than Hitler or Stalin, and you've said in the past that Obama may well go on a killing spree resulting in mass graves.

But liberals are crazy, of course.

it's just so fuckin' funny. these jokes literally write themselves...

Posted by: brs at October 27, 2008 3:28 PM

Sorry about the duplicate. After clicking 'send' I clicked 'stop' t make a small change. Then I send the message. The small change is present in both copies.

Posted by: AlwaysRepublican at October 27, 2008 3:32 PM

Actually, now that there is video and audio proof that Obama is a Marxist/communist, it's the trolls who look a bit silly.

I notice the trolls are incapable of refuting the video and audio evidence, and so are reduced to slinging insults. Typical leftists.

Posted by: V the K at October 27, 2008 3:34 PM

They certainly have been active of late, haven't they?

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at October 27, 2008 4:15 PM

You Republicans are in trouble now. We have it all in place. MSM in the tank for the One, Acorn to provide the votes, 60 seat senate, large majority in the House. We now remove the term limit law and walla Obama, President for life. Are you scared yet, wait a minute I just scared the hell out of myself. Holy shit.

Posted by: Don at October 27, 2008 4:20 PM

And I'm not even voting for McCain and I find the trolls... absurd and obnoxious.

Posted by: V the K at October 27, 2008 5:03 PM

Were comming very close to have a dictator just like the USSR and to think stupid liberals wre calling bush HITLER when STALIN was a bigger mass murderer

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at October 27, 2008 6:48 PM

"I notice the trolls are incapable of refuting the video and audio evidence, and so are reduced to slinging insults. Typical leftists."

OK, good point. Let's get substantial with some questions:

The background:: Obama is a greater threat to the US than Hitler or the USSR - which only makes sense considering your prediction of mass graves after the giant communist purge.

Here's what I don't get, though: as a white guy who believes in free enterprise with some common sense oversite (i.e., a capitalist with a brain), I will probably be one of the first, after Laissez Faire folks (i.e., capitalists w/o brains) to go. Fine. I get that, I'm ready for that.

But since Obama is a radical racist black-power movement guy, will the new communist state he starts in January be just for the bothers? Will white commies be allowed to live?

Another question: Obama's a communist black panther, but he's also a muslim terrorist. That seems fine on the surface, but we all know that the islamofscists want an islamic state and commies are Godless.... what is a racist communo-islamofacist to do? I know you guys don't think Obama's good at working across the isle - but he's going to have to figure out something here....


Posted by: brs at October 27, 2008 6:50 PM

BRS;
You're NOT supposed to ask questions, not even retorical ones; It annoys Liberals.
Keep it up and you might start THINKING and Liberals can't alow that dangerous activity!

Posted by: KHarn at October 27, 2008 7:16 PM

"Keep it up and you might start THINKING and Liberals can't alow that dangerous activity!"

I guess the real thinkers believe Obama will end America as we know it - which is the clearly reasonable proposition one forms from the facts.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 27, 2008 7:47 PM

you dare to question herr commandant?

off with your head, joevan helsing!

Posted by: nanc at October 27, 2008 8:12 PM

brs

You ARE aware your post is stupid.

Posted by: Jimbo at October 27, 2008 8:46 PM

We are about to voluntarily change our government to a race-based kleptocracy. A small percentage of the population abetted by some extremely perverted, misled social engineers have manipulated public opinion and suppressed truth in education and the mass media until this could be accomplished. And now a few, very few, are starting to wonder if their success will cause a problem.

For those few--the answer is yes!

Posted by: jim johnson at October 27, 2008 9:56 PM

Jim, I was going to post but you just succinctly said it all. (I LOVE "race-based kleptocracy"...that's classic!)

Posted by: matt at October 27, 2008 10:47 PM

brs

You ARE aware your post is stupid.

I'm guessing not so much.

I think Obama has definitely revealed himself in these recordings to be a fascist and a demagogue. The actions of his supporters... the intimidation and threats against people who ask questions (like Joe the Plumber) are very typical of thug politicians.

There is no longer any doubt that Obama is, at heart, a radical Marxist. The only question is, will our institutions be able to contain him? The key components of those institutions are Constitutional law, which he denounces in the recording, and opposition media, which his party is proposing to shutdown via the Fairness Doctrine. If he succeeds in shutting down opposition and subverting the Constitution, then he will have established himself as a fascist.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 1:59 AM

What's also striking on the audio is that there are none of the "uh-uh-uhs" that usual punctuate the Obamassiah's extemporaneous speech. He really believes this Marxism stuff.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 4:08 AM

Obama wont go so far as to use the Robert Mugabe method of wealth redistribution. Obamas method will be like termites eating away at a houses foundation - bit by bit; more along the lines of Hugo Chavez. Theres still a chance voters will wake up before next Tuesday but odds are against it. Of course Obama is a Marxist - but that doesnt matter since Moonbats have dumbed down education over the last 30+ years to the point where no one under 40 even knows what a Marxist really is or what it will mean to economic growth. They are about to find out the hard way.

As for people who will cast protest votes against McCain you might as well vote for Obama and get it overwith since it will have the same effect. The bad point of the current 2 party/electoral college system makes anyone other than a Democrat or Republican, 0%. Even though Perot in 92 got nearly 19% of the popular vote he got zero electoral votes.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 28, 2008 5:02 AM

If we can restrain Obama's fascist tendencies --- and that's a mighty big if --- it might be better in the long run to rip this socialist band-aid off all at once instead of slow-bleeding through four years of a McCain-Democrat congress. And I want to emphasize Might be.

Is November 5th too soon to start building Sarah's Army, to take back the Congress, or at least win back lost ground, in 2010... and then the White House in 2012?

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 6:02 AM

Yeah - maybe I did go overboard...

NOW I see that Obama is a communist, fascist, Muslim terrorist, domestic terrorist, non-US citizen, black revolutionary kleptocrat who will forcibly take the country over (or at least try) and kill and bury all who oppose him.

Let me be serious for a bit: when you go around saying the above, you lose credibility. I mean, the idea that Obama embodies everything that is wrong and evil in modern world history (and that's not hyperbole based on what's written here) is really impossible. I mean, some of the types of evil you guys say he is are mutually exclusive with each other for Chrissakes.

So you come off as being a little nutty. That I find you guys funny is mere gravy. Maybe you'd do better to - instead of trying to literally say that Obama is all of these things that he really cannot be - discuss what it is about his policies that you don't like. Obama has a lot of empty rhetoric, but accusing him of being another Stalin is empty criticism. And you deserve to be made fun of for that - and criticized for taking "political discourse" down another 12, 768 notches.

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 7:05 AM

Everything we accuse Obama of ... having Marxist tendencies, associating with terrorists, use of thug tactics to intimidate opposition... has been documented. In many cases, documented using his own words. At this point, disbelief of the pattern of evidence only shows that one is in denial.

We are opposed to redistributionism, to crushing the productive with taxes and paying the unproductive to remain unproductive because these policies have proven never to work. If high taxation and "social justice" worked, Detroit, Newark, and Buffalo would be paradise. If lavish funding for public schools were the answer to all of education's problem, Washington D.C. should have the most successful public schools.

We oppose Obama's thug tactics to intimidate critics and the Democrats' plan to oppose the Fairness Doctrine because we believe an opposition media is essential to contain the excesses of government. It is no accident that tyrants --- from Mugabe to Putin to Chavez --- always shut down the opposition media.

And private citizens should not have their private records searched by government bureaucrats, or be subjected to vilification, just because they have the audacity to ask a politician a question.

Do you understand now why we oppose Obamunism?

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 7:40 AM

"Everything we accuse Obama of ... having Marxist tendencies, associating with terrorists, use of thug tactics to intimidate opposition... has been documented."

No, not at all. Exaggerating something to the point that it can no longer be recognized is simply lying.

I could say that McCain is a fascist (becasue he met with Pinochet and belonged to a group that wanted democracy in Latin America which had former Nazis in it) and is a traitor (for picking someone who either belonged to, implicitly endorsed, and certainly whose husband was a member of a seccesionist group as his running mate). But why should I stop there? I could ask one to imagine the atrocities of fascists, and casually bring up mass graves (becasue McCain's now a fascist, and hey Hitler was a fascist so...). I can also wonder if we'll have a bloody civil war vs. Alaska? Maybe McCain is really secretly plotting to break up the union? What about all of that Manchurian candidate stuff? I've got a lot of "documentation" (just please ignore all the wild and irresponsible interpretation of that "documentation").

But ya know what? That's all BS. Not becasue the seeds that I started with aren't "documented" or true - on the cantrary, they are - but becasue I've twisted them so far beyond recognition that they are indistinguishable from lying and fantasy. McCain is neither a fascist nor a triator - he's just some guy who's economic and foreign policies I disagree with, and who couldn't help but cross paths at some point with some of the more unsavory elements of his political movement.

That you are so intellectually dishonest that you apply a funhouse mirror only to the side with which you disagree is all you need to know about your judgement and measure.

That you bring up the spector of mass graves and communist takeover to scare your fellow citizens means that - unlike John McCain - you put your political movement before your country.


Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 9:42 AM

What you don't have is McCain speaking, saying, and writing about being a fascist and a traitor. Obama, on the other hand, has made his radical Marxist views clear, in his own words, with his own voice. To claim otherwise is to deny reality.

And comparing the AIP to the Weather Underground is intellectually dishonest. The AIP never bombed the Pentagon, never bombed the Capitol, never bombed the NYPD headquarters, never plotted to murder U.S. soldiers. One has to be morally and intellectually bankrupt to say the two are equal.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 11:19 AM

How many here are old enough to remember the Carter years? Fun time...NOT!
History is about to repeat itself

Posted by: JamesJ at October 28, 2008 11:28 AM

You mean in four more years, we get a Reagan? Yippee Skippee!

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 11:34 AM

"What you don't have is McCain speaking, saying, and writing about being a fascist and a traitor. Obama, on the other hand, has made his radical Marxist views clear, in his own words, with his own voice. To claim otherwise is to deny reality."


Comparing the AIP to the Weather Underground is intellectually dishonest. The AIP never bombed the Pentagon, never bombed the Capitol, never bombed the NYPD headquarters, never plotted to murder U.S. soldiers. One has to be morally and intellectually bankrupt to say the two are equal."


But I didn't JUST mention AIP, did I? What about Pinochet and the Nazis? We'll get to them....

First, any true patriot would not condone a seccesionist movement, period, as you've done, by pointing out something worse ot make it look better. The WU was worse, I agree, becasue of the violence. But this somehow makes advocating for breaking up the Union OK?

AIP = traitors, and you can dress that up as you'd like. At least Obama didn't choose Bill Ayers as his friggin' running mate.

Ayers held a fundraiser for him, which is no worse than meeting and condoning the murderous fascist thug that was Pinochet. How many people did he kill? Who cares right? Th "movement" is more important than any country, clearly, to you.

You see - they both have skeletons, you just choose to twist some into caricatures and leave the others alone. I'm not starry eyes for Obama, but it's really awful that people like you are trying to foment some sort of split in America becasue you think your petty little political ideas are more important than the country.

That's what you do when you twist a record that DOES merit criticism into something completely unrecognizable. I'm not worried - there's plenty of people on the left and the right that won't give in to this sort of nonsense.

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:10 PM

And just to be clear...

I really don't think McCain condoned Pinochet, the Nazis or AIP. I really don't. I don't think it's possible to be in politics w/o coming up against extremists, espiecially w/ a 2 part system.

What I'm doing is simply applying the same standard to McCain as you apply to Obama, which I think is unfair and ridiculous - and leads to absurd conclusions via association and innuendo.

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:15 PM

Brs. Do you think one should not be afraid of mass graves? Do you think it is choice of country or mass graves? Do you think mass graves are a good thing? McCain has been willing to die for his country. Obama has been willing to lie to his country. There really is a difference!

Posted by: jim johnson at October 28, 2008 12:29 PM

"Do you think one should not be afraid of mass graves?"

of course

"Do you think it is choice of country or mass graves?"

no

"Do you think mass graves are a good thing?"

of course not

"McCain has been willing to die for his country. Obama has been willing to lie to his country. There really is a difference!"

ok....

Was there any point to any of this, or was this simply an excercise in non-sequiter?

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:39 PM

Unlike McCain, Obama didn't just bump into extremists, he was closely allied with them. Ayers did much more than hold a fundraiser, he hand-picked Obama to disperse millions of dollars in other people's money. Obama wrote a glowing introduction to Ayers book. And there is clear ideological symmetry between Ayers beliefs and Obama's when you compare the two. To any fair and reasonable person reviewing the facts objectively, theirs was a close kinship of ideological fellow travelers.

And, once again, in order to believe Obama isn't a radical Marxist, you have to ignore his spoken and written endorsements of radical Marxist concepts.

You are manifestly not evaluating McCain (whom I do not like and am not voting for) using the criteria by which I am evaluating Obama. And it is dishonest of you to claim to do so. You're obviously determined to defend your Obamassiah even if it requires making ridiculous stretches to claim McCain and Palin's associations are equal to his. So, fairness, honesty, and reason are obviously not on your agenda.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 12:43 PM

One more thing about Pinochet. He gave up power, and left his country a prosperous Democracy. Has any leftist dictator... Castro, Mugabe, Kim Jong-Il... ever done the same?

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 12:45 PM

As for the AIP, the Constitution provides that citizens are allowed to peaceably assemble to petition government for a redress of grievances. Fascinating how the left is so quick to label Americans exercising their constitutional rights as "traitors." But based on the tape, we know how Obamunists regard the "fundamentally flawed" U.S. Constitution.

And yet terrorists who murder policemen and plot to murder soldiers are considered upstanding citizens.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 12:48 PM

I'm not here to defend McCain, I'm here to defend intellectual honesty and basic integrity.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 12:51 PM

1. I'm sure McCain DID bump into Pinochet - who's murdered thousands - while browsing some shops in Santiago? Please.

2. You keep pointing out that the association aren't equal w/o ever getting into any of the details of McCain's associations. I guess you evodence is your say-so, but that's not good enough for me. A former seccesionist VP? A fscist sympathizer POTUS? You have not adequately explained any of these assiciations - you simply say they don't matter, so I guess they don't.

3. The burden of proof here is on you (all), not me. YOU are the ones claiming that Obama's election will result in mass graves, that he is a radical black power leader, that he is a muslim, that he was not born in the US, that he is a communist (and there's a difference between initiatives like socailized medicine and out and out communism, which you're all completely ignoring) etc. I'm simply showing what can happen when you go free and easy with your "analysis" of the data.


Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:52 PM

"I'm not here to defend McCain, I'm here to defend intellectual honesty and basic integrity. "

Possibly the biggest load of shit I've ever read. You won't even get into the things that I've said McCain's done. You just ignore it becasue it's inconvenient. Then you spew vile invective that I think you know is polemic BS.

intellectual honesty my ass

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:55 PM

Hey V the K -

there's some post over on RWN about how Obama is really Freddy Kruegger, and he's goign to kill us all in our sleep if he's elected president. They're also saying that he's the bogeyman, stole the Linbergh baby, is the Chubacabra and eats children

Seems pretty plausable - you might wanna check it out.

Idiot.

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 12:59 PM

No, you do have to judge McCain and Obama by somewhat different criteria for this reason: McCain has been in the Senate for over 20 yrs and has a legislative record I almost entirely disagree with; but in which there is nothing to suggest he is a secessionist or (except for McCain-Feingold) a fascist.

We have nothing like that for Obama, who has missed 46% of votes as a U.S. Senator, and voted 'present' 130 times as a state legislator. We know he wanted to filibuster Justice Alito, and he wanted babies who survived partial birth abortions to die. Other than that, his legislative record is tissue thin.

We can only judge him by his words. His damning, damning words. The words of a radical socialist lamenting that the US Constitution is "fundamentally flawed" because it will not allow the government to redistribute wealth in the name of social justice. The words of a fellow traveler, praising a book written by a terrorist as a "searing indictment" of the American justice system.

By their works, ye shall know them.

Posted by: V the K at October 28, 2008 3:41 PM

Again - you refuse to address the issues re: McCain that I brought up, because there's no way for you to refute. McCain: traitorous Nazi.

Unless I count your "experience as excuse for bad behavior" argument. Which makes a lot of sense - if you're 4.

Breaking on FOX: a source who would not be identified claims that Obama is really a cloned Hitler in blackface.

I believe it.

And is this coincidence? Not if you're NUTZ!!!!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message637521/pg1

Posted by: brs at October 28, 2008 4:10 PM

Looks like the wheels on your wagon are starting to slip, brs. When you have nothing else, scream Nazi. That always seems to work.

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at October 28, 2008 6:08 PM

"First, any true patriot would not condone a seccesionist movement, period..."

BRS;
It might interest you to know that the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT has recognised almost EVERY seccesion movement since the birth of this country. It has also supported many of these movements with money and/or material and in one case, had INSTIGATED seccesion.
There were only TWO exceptions to this rule.

History is obviously not your strong point, only accusations. But you're not very good at that either, you can only repete the tripe drummed into your head by your Liberal masters..

Posted by: KHarn at October 28, 2008 7:34 PM

brs:"Again - you refuse to address the issues re: McCain that I brought up, because there's no way for you to refute. McCain: traitorous Nazi."

Another fine example of Godwin's Law in action.

This alone speaks volumes.

Posted by: Murff at October 29, 2008 5:29 AM

Hey, BRS: Biden and Obama both voted for a proposition for Hawaii to secede from the United States. So by your own calculations they are both traitors and far worse than McCain or Palin. So fuck you, now you HAVE to vote Republican or third party. Either that or you could admit that you're just blowing smoke because you have nothing substantial to pin on McCain or Palin.

Posted by: mandible claw at October 30, 2008 12:49 AM