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September 19, 2008

Sandra Bernhard Publicly Fantasizes About Sarah Palin Gang-Raped by Blacks in Manhattan

The DC Examiner offers a glowing review of Sandra Bernhard's latest show. Under the title, "Comedienne Delivers Enraged Optimism," a reviewer raves:

[I]n the end, oddly and subtly, Bernhard's message is positive.

Presumably the reason the relentless stream of foul-mouthed bile Bernhardt passes off as comedy is seen as "positive" is that she directs so much of it at Sarah Palin, who is hated beyond all measure for her decency.

The Theater J Blog triumphantly posts the following video of Bernhard calling Saracuda a "turncoat b*tch" and a "whore." Warning: the language is what you would expect from a moonbat.

Like Stalin's apparatchiks denouncing each other as counterrevolutionaries, someone at the blog accuses Bernhard of the only crime acknowledged on the Left, political incorrectness, for singing in "blackvoice." But Theater J's Ari Roth rushes to Bernhard's defense:

In fact, the play wears its politically VERY correct heart on its sleeve with its indictment of America as "A Man's World, It's a White Man's World, It's a F*cked Up White Man's Racist World" and can only be suggested to be racist in its content if one is hell-bent on protecting White Folk for Sandra's blistering indictment. When Sandra warns Sarah Palin not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra's big black brothers, she's being provocative, combative, humorous, and yes, let's allow, disgusting.

The word "disgusting" does sum up Bernhard nicely. But Roth continues:

The fact that the show has a few riffs like this does not — to my mind — make it a "disgusting show." there's too much beauty, variety, vitality, and intelligence to label the entire show as "disgusting." I'll agree with you that we produced this show because we did find it to be edgy — because we wanted to give right wing conservative Jews a good run for their money by being on the receiving end of some blistering indictments from Sandra. Does it go over the edge sometimes? On the gang-rape joke, yes. Sure. Not much else. It goes over the edge and then comes right back to the cutting edge.

Once again we see that "cutting edge" means "trendy, moonbatty, and exceedingly obnoxious," just as "progressive" means "morally repugnant and hypocritical beyond belief." Imagine the liberal outrage if a conservative started raving about urban blacks and gang rapes.

Likewise, when Bernhard denounces the New Testament as "new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bullsh*t," you have to wonder how WaPo, which describes her vile show as "a rotating sprinkler that a spectator washes in most happily," would feel about anyone who said the same about the Koran.

Hat tip: NewsBusters; on a tip from Byron.

Posted by Van Helsing at September 19, 2008 10:41 AM

Comments

Michelle Obama hates whitey. Not sure how much truth there is to this but it seems consistent with other things she's said.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

Posted by: Anonymous at September 19, 2008 11:15 AM

Right-wing conservative Jews? Don't Jews vote Democrat in huge numbers?

Posted by: CoderInCrisis at September 19, 2008 12:05 PM

What Sandra Bernhard doesn't realize is that the gang-rape comment is not a condemnation of Sarah Palin but of black men. Ms. Bernhard has accidentally let slip her real view of them: that they are nothing more than sex-crazed animals who are incapable of controlling their urge to commit horrible acts of rape and violence. It's rare nowadays to see racism exhibited so openly and with such self-righteousness.

Posted by: Steve at September 19, 2008 12:21 PM

75% of Jews usually vote Democrats and 25% Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 19, 2008 12:22 PM

So she's "edgy" and "cutting edge?" Then let her make up some Holocaust jokes - now that'sedgy and cutting edge...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 19, 2008 12:26 PM

Sandra Burn-hard - is just another sick twisted carpet munching blowhard. One of the damn ugliest women I ever saw. Looks like the love child of Janet Reno and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 19, 2008 12:27 PM

I'd be a bitter little snot nosed coont too if'n I was that ugly.

Posted by: vonster at September 19, 2008 12:28 PM

What else do you expect from an ugly, big-mouthed, self-hating, lesbian Jew who, secretly, is fantasizing about a liaison with Palin?

Posted by: pocomoco at September 19, 2008 1:07 PM

I love the casualness with which lefties talking about raping (conservative) women and murdering (conservative) people and especially assassinating (Republican) politicians. It's all in good fun! It's creative! It's thought-provoking! Not to metnion how fun it is to talk about African-American's as if they are nothing but stereotypes, which is fine, if you're a liberal.

But don't dare show a picture of two black people together in a campaign commercial, and be a Republican, you racists!

Posted by: Healthy Girl at September 19, 2008 1:11 PM

As repulsive as Bernhard is, I think she's a fitting representative for what passes as "mainstream" on the left.

Posted by: Reverse_Vampyr at September 19, 2008 1:39 PM

Similar but OT -

PBS hates conservatives-------------We all know that. Let us show them what we think.

Please go to the following link and VOTE on the PBS online poll. (takes 10 seconds)


">PBS has a short video on Sarah Palin on their website. Also included is a poll that asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP?

Posted by: Oiao at September 19, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Oiao at September 19, 2008 1:48 PM

Man, I wouldn't prong her with a rented dick.

Posted by: Zen at September 19, 2008 1:53 PM

"Cutting edge", "In your face" Phrases used in the art and entertainment world to mean "I'm devoid of all talent so I'll do this crap instead." What else could she have done; persue a career as a gargoyle?

Posted by: claw at September 19, 2008 2:27 PM

Stay classy Sandra. Perhaps she should be gang-raped, let's see how she likes it.

I just love seeing all the vitriol towards Palin coming from the loonie left. Why the hatred for a mother of 5? Why the hatred for a decent, middle-American woman? Why the hatred for all the hockey mom's in this country? Why the hatred from the supposed party of peace and tolerance? Why the hypocrisy?

Keep it up loons, you're exposing yourselves for what you truly are, hateful, spiteful, angry, and pure evil.

You can put lipstick on a pig, and call it Sandra Bernhard.

She stopped being relevent when, uh, oh yeah, she's never been relevent.

Posted by: chad at September 19, 2008 2:33 PM

>>...and yes, let's allow, disgusting.>>

No, the word you're looking for is "retarded".

Posted by: KHarn at September 19, 2008 3:04 PM

She looks like the evil queen from SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DAWARVES positivly diabolicle THE EVIL WOMAN as was in that song

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 19, 2008 3:11 PM

KHarn, I do know what you're driving at, but I know someone who is actually retarded and I respectfully dislike the use of that word as an epithet, and ESPECIALLY in connection with a hateful monster like Ms. Bernhardt. Retarded people cannot help what they are. Ms. Berhardt presumably could.

How can ANYone miss the actual, no exaggeration, gut level HATRED coming from these people. I would disavow anyone on the right that expressed themselves like that, but the left "embraces" and "includes" these terrorists...and that is indeed what they are, at least on an emotional level.

Ugly, filthy, self-absorbed, self-centered ME ME ME ME hatred for anything that doesn't appeal to them.

PS: Sandra? I'd lay off the references to the Old Testament. If you'd read any of it, you certainly wouldn't behave like you do. OH WAIT! I'm forgetting. It's "open to interpretation". I hope you aren't an example of what that "interpretation" can embody.

Posted by: matt at September 19, 2008 3:48 PM

By the way, I know she spells it Bernhard, but I had a reason for including the "T". Inside joke.

Posted by: matt at September 19, 2008 3:49 PM

Nothing wrong with what Sandra Bernard said.

Posted by: Tyler at September 19, 2008 4:29 PM

Tyler, please start taking the meds again.

Posted by: Zen at September 19, 2008 4:47 PM

If Sandra Barnyard did as much carpet eating as as she spews nitwit utterances Sandra would make Ellen Degenerate blush.

Posted by: Aunt Jemima at September 19, 2008 5:02 PM

There's nothing wrong with gang rape? Go back to school, Tyler.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 19, 2008 5:07 PM

Is that right Tyler?
Have you ever met a gang rape victim Tyler?
I'm deeply offended by what this lowlife said.
My daughter was gang raped in August of 2000 by the Skaf gang.
14 of them,three different gangs,three different locations over a six and a half hour period.
It took eight years to go through the courts.
Do you think gang rape victims enjoy their ordeal do you Tyler?
In short ,Tyler you are a TOOL.
D.T.

Posted by: D.T. at September 19, 2008 5:09 PM

Sandra Bernhardt has always been a moonbat, psycho-pervert and dog ugly to boot! I think she and half the homely, leftard feminazi's are jealous of an attractive, intelligent, accomplished woman who likes men! Spew what they will, Sarah Palin is awesome and I will take one Sarah over 1000 moonbat women any day!

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at September 19, 2008 5:24 PM

Oh... and Tyler... go back to huffing aerosols and sniffing glue, as your opinion giving truly stinks!

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at September 19, 2008 5:26 PM

It never ceases to amaze and disgust me, how "Liberal" audiences laugh hysterically, applaude, etc. at the same old predictable, worn-out obscenities and invectives. A dysfunctional 13-year-old girl could have popped off with the same stuff as this so-called comedienne. When I was 14, I had the same response when I heard or saw public displays of-OOooooooo!!!- dirty words and actions (wow, how gutsy!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha)! After decades of this bilge, though, you'd think it would have long ago stopped being so "hilarious"; but seeing as how "Progressives" seem to think that "growing up" is an evil thing, we shouldn't be surprised.

Standing on stage or in front of a camera and talking filthy about Whites/Conservatives/Christians is "cutting edge"? Don't make me laugh, Roth...it's been done a zillion times, against the same old non-risky targets. And you are as big a phony coward as Miss Bernhard is.

Posted by: Toa at September 19, 2008 5:32 PM

Yet another great illustration -- one among many of late -- that the Moonbats are absolutely terrified ("scared shitless" is a better way of putting it), of Sarah Palin. Once this woman has disposed of "Plugs" Biden in early October, she should be substituted for McCain ("unable to attend; had a conflict in scheduling," whatever) in the "debates" against Obambi; after the first one, the whole damn thing would be over (no need to wait til Nov. 4th) . . .

Posted by: jc14 at September 19, 2008 5:35 PM

I wanted to check out this blog since it received such a high rating. Why would anyone post such ugliness? Sarah B. does not represent many people that I know. This just seems like a sad attempt to inflame people.

Posted by: Marie at September 19, 2008 5:48 PM

So to the left, "humor" means infanticide (Douche Stanhope), gang-rape (Bernhard) and exposing children to pornography (Al Franken).

Gotta say, I much prefer the right wing.

Posted by: V the K at September 19, 2008 5:55 PM

Marie, the Bernhard video IS ugly, and that's why it's posted. Holding the ugly, radical "progressive" left up to the light. But you knew that.

I may be wrong, perhaps you were just offended (as were most people who've seen it) but something tells me you're a "conservative" who just "found this site" and has seen the light about Obama and how he's really the only hope for "change" and...

Give it up, girlfriend. We've heard it all before. If I'm wrong, I apologize. But I don't think I am.

Posted by: matt at September 19, 2008 6:39 PM

Hummm..... Trolls that are not fed, get noisy, then die.

Personally, I like starving Trolls.

Posted by: Oiao at September 19, 2008 7:06 PM

It never ceases to amaze and disgust me, how "Liberal" audiences laugh hysterically, applaude, etc. at the same old predictable, worn-out obscenities and invectives.
Posted by: Toa

I'm with you Toa. But utter the words "illegal alien" or "tar baby" or "monkey" or "terrorist" or "faggot" or "under God" in front of them and they wet their pants in fake disgust.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 19, 2008 7:40 PM

Yeah Jimbo, the "disgust" is, indeed, fake- only displayed to camouflage their utter fear of the groups they wish not to offend: illegal Hispanics and Blacks who are Left-wing, homosexuals, Atheists, Islamonazis, etc.. These groups actually present a threat when offended, hence requiring TRUE courage to confront, so "Liberals" have to set up pretend "enemies" to "stand up to", in order to make themselves feel brave.

Posted by: Toa at September 19, 2008 8:23 PM

What a hideous, beastly woman.
And here I was hoping Bernhard faded into complete obscurity years ago?
She's fully demonstrated what a heartless, gutless, bigoted hag she is.
Here's hoping Bernhard will soon slither back into whatever sewer or toxic waste dump spawned her, never to bother decent people like Palin again.
Chad, there are a few reasons why the moonbats hate Palin so much, here's what I can think of off the top of my head:
1. She is a conservative woman (That really drives them nuts, that's why they especially demonize and dehumanize any woman or minority who is an outspoken conservative).
2. They're bitter because the announcement of Palin as McCain's VP pick stole Obama's thunder on the last day of the DNC. The moonbats hoped Obama's speech that day would dominate the headlines, and shoot Obama to a landslide victory, but instead the speech was largely ignored in favor of the news of Palin's appointment.
3. She is a Christian.
4. She is pro- life, and showed her commitment to it by not aborting Trig when she learned what his condition would be.
5. She epitomizes regular, middle America and the traditinal family.
6. With her on the ticket, McCain poses a very real threat to Obama in the election. This scares the crap out of moonbats.

Posted by: Adam at September 19, 2008 8:57 PM

Adam - your reasons are spot on. In other words; Sarah is normal and moonbats foam at the mouth when faced with healthy tradition.

Silly liberals can't handle 'normal' because they aren't and don't know how to be - so 'normal' is threatening to them. A vacuum abhores natural. Errr... something like that... :-)

Posted by: Jimbo at September 19, 2008 9:35 PM

freelevi.org

Posted by: Amy at September 19, 2008 9:38 PM

Amy - that's a sick website, sponsored by a sick being (notice I didn't say human being) that advocates killing for the sake of 'normalcy'.

"Normal" by whose standards?

That websire, the sponsor, and anyone who agrees with it is worth no more than the 13-cents I pay for a 9mm round at Walmart. One baby is worth all your useless, murdering lives.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 19, 2008 10:04 PM

I can’t believe that a woman would say anything about wanting another woman gang raped by black men. I can only conclude that she’s bitter, jealous, and let’s not forget “Dog Ugly”. She sees a talented woman going somewhere in life instead of being a cheap no class tramp who has sold out just to feed her pie hole. But, where is the outrage from the black population. If that wasn’t a racist remark, I’ve never heard one. Not to mention criminal. She thinks that’s funny? She needs to go back to prescription drugs, that home cooked variety is not working out.

Posted by: mic at September 19, 2008 10:42 PM

Where is the reverend Sharpton and his howls of indignation? Raped by not just any man but black men. C'mon Al, time to get your boxers in a bunch.

Posted by: Jenn at September 20, 2008 3:27 AM

The smell of desperation coming from the McCain campaign as as bad as the stench coming from between Michelle Malkin's legs

Posted by: Jesse Malkin at September 20, 2008 4:38 AM

Sarah is normal and moonbats foam at the mouth when faced with healthy tradition.

Bingo!

Posted by: V the K at September 20, 2008 5:51 AM

Ralph Peters points out what I've said about why the left hates Sarah Palin, because she's one of *us,* not one of them.

In Sarah Palin, you have a smart, attractive, down-to-Earth woman who loves her family and seems to enjoy life. Have you seen the stuck-up, self-involved, bitter harridans who make up the left? The contrast with Sandra Bernhardt, Michelle Obama, Joy Behar, and Nancy Pelosi (to name a few) could not be more stark. There's gotta be some jealousy there.

Posted by: V the K at September 20, 2008 6:01 AM

I, for one, support her right to say whatever vile crap she wants to say. However, free speech is a double-edged sword. The Left deems certain speech as hateful or offensive and will take immediate action to silence dissent wherever they wish. They paint us on the Right as being the ones who censor free speech, but there is nothing farther from the truth-- we get offended, but we don't take action to silence them. Bring it on, Ms. Bernhardt. Idiots often prove their worth by opening their mouths.

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at September 20, 2008 6:21 AM

This comes from the party of hope and change. They act as if they are all warm and fuzzy, wanting peace and love for all humanity. Then they talk about raping and murdering conservatives. They disgusts me. This woman is vile beyond belief.

Posted by: Keith at September 20, 2008 7:52 AM

DT, for what it's worth, I'm very sorry that your daughter and your family had to go through such a horrible experience.

The crass vulgarity of many "celebrities" of the Left, D List (as in Bernhard's case) though they may be, actually shores up support for Palin. Preening, self obsessed celebs, surrounded by hangers on and yes men, perpetually over inflate their importance in shaping public opinion. Their supposed "speaking truth to power" routine is laughably insular, consisting largely of preaching to the choir. Everyday Americans are either unaware of them, or generally turned off by their blatherings.

Previous posters are correct: Palin represents the "real" America, the one current day celebs were never the stars of in school and resent, or the one they know nothing about, because they've been "rich and famous" since childhood. Whatever they have to say never ends up making that much of a diff one way or another, and that is what really annoys them.

Posted by: avalon at September 20, 2008 8:03 AM

she's a sick, filthy, disgusting lesbian.
she's headed straight to hell, on the fast track.

but she is right about one thing. black guys are violent and would gang rape palin, or any female they could. of course not all black guys, but obviously the statistics don't like year after year. look them up at the US Dept of Justice.

Google the Wichita Massacre. There are many others like that one that don't make the national news because of the pro-black bias, which is actually fear of inciting more LA Riots and such.

Today's Yahoo survey shows that NOT ALL non-blacks accept this violent action from that one dark race. No more excuses. Do what France announced yesterday that they are doing: Send em back to Africa if they're society risks.

You think I'm racist for knowing the truth about these animals? Then what is Obama for listening to and loving Jeremiah Wright? That's right, he's racist too, just like Sharpton and Jackson, and many FOOLS in America are too blind, ignorant, naive, stupid to see it. You think black men are violent now, wait til one of their own is in the White House. These guys will get even more ballsy.

Keep your women and girls locked up and arm them.

Posted by: frank rizzo at September 20, 2008 9:34 AM

The majority of black men arent raping/killing machines and some blacks are people I would vote for - such as Condoleeza Rice or Michael Steele of the RNC. I voted for Lynn Swann (former Pittsburgh Steeler) for governor of PA - of course he lost since PA is heavily liberal. The main problem is inner city blacks who have been so warped by white liberals they are a group of angry messed up people. They dont even realize that white liberal politicians have brainwashed them into a cycle of dependency keeping their living standards low. They do this so they will keep voting for Democrats who are always promising more handouts. This also applies to poor inner city whites - but those people tend to be meth heads or whinos begging for "change" - pocket change; but they tend not be as violent. I work in an area with alot blacks (going on 15 years now) and havent really had any problems with them; though they do tend to be loud and obnoxious in public. Though recently public housing has been spread out and crime is on the rise as well as gang activity as seen by appearance of gang tags on walls and buildings. So far local police have kept things under control. 90% of blacks arent violent but the 10% that are tend to be ultra violent. Similar to the problem with Muslims - though not nearly as bad--- as black gangs are unlikely to set off a nuke or car bomb in a city. There are some conservative blacks trying reverse the poisonous mindset liberals have instilled in blacks but its going to be tough trying to detoxify their brains which have been warped by decades of liberal poison.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 20, 2008 10:55 AM

To Matt (9/19) 6:39 pm:

I am new to blogs, that's why I googled "conservative" and "liberal" blogs. (That's also why I didn't realize if I stayed online for awhile I might actually have a conversation.) I wanted to find out what is going on there and why blogs are such a powerful force. A couple things I found out: unfortunately, I can't attach a "reply" directly to your comment to me, so I don't know if you'll ever even see this. Evidently, I am a "troll", which I guess means someone that is dishonest for saying I am disappointed in finding the S.B. article posted here for purposes that just seem to be inflammatory. Her ideas are disgusting, and they would be just as disgusting if what she had said referred to Cindy McCain or Michelle Obama, and not just Palin. I am disappointed because a story like that can be posted and inflame people and then automatically people say "Sarah B. is a liberal and she believes these disgusting and hateful things. All liberals believe these disgusting and hateful things, so all liberals are disgusting and hateful." And, Matt, the SAME TYPE OF THING can be found on the "liberal" blogs, which is just as disappointing. I challenge anyone to google "liberal" and "conservative" blogs and find out for yourself if what I'm saying here is true. Thanks, Matt, for even considering that you could be wrong for accusing me of being dishonest. I know it would be very easy to be dishonest in a blog, just as it is very easy for people to say hateful things in blogs when they hide behind anonymity. I am not interested in that. I am a 49 yr. old woman trying to find out what is out there on blogs to see what kind of info is posted and what kinds of responses they illicit. I'm going to try googling "independent" blogs, if there is such a thing. I have an appointment to go to, but if I am lucky, maybe I'll hear from you later.

Marie

Posted by: Marie at September 20, 2008 12:59 PM

Jenn wrote: "The smell of desperation coming from the McCain campaign as as bad as the stench coming from between Michelle Malkin's legs."

How, pray tell did you ever get that close to Ms. Malkin? Were you looking for something you wanted there?

Did you find it?

Posted by: Paulster at September 20, 2008 1:30 PM

Hmmm what if somebody warned sandra bernhard not to come to their town lest she be "gang raped"?
Sandra you are such a sniveling useless coward. But keep it up you moron, its because of idiots like you that you're party is losing the battle to McCain.

Im one of the many undecided voters. I was leaning to Obama but now I see how sick they are getting because they are in a hatefilled uproar over this Palin lady so I will have to take another look at mccain/palin. After all if they hate her that much maybe they are trying to keep me from seeing something about that ticket?
As for Bernhard, what a whore she is I wonder if she the innocent little jewish bi she would like to get gang raped by several lustful arab guys, huh?


Posted by: Sadiq not from around here at September 20, 2008 1:54 PM

So people think making a crack about gang-rape is edgy? My girlfriend was gang-raped and killed by 3 black men, I don't find it edgy, it's downright grotesque. And it is entertaining to see how much racial garbage the leftist and democrats are slinging while accusing the right and Republicans, like me, of being bigots. It would be the liberal media that has over shadowed the real issues of terrorism, economic stability and lest not forget the fact that Obama is eerily showing drastic signs of socialism and he has yet to receive an FBI background check which is required of anyone seeking presidential election and he has received funding and support from extreme Islamic factions... Speaking of, has he fully admitted what religion he is. That man is more confusing then a sign saying "Sit in corner" in a round room. www.donttreadonme.org

Posted by: BenOzzy at September 20, 2008 2:02 PM

benozzy maybe your gf just wanted to be satisfied by real men?

Posted by: benozzy's gf at September 20, 2008 7:52 PM

Jenn wrote "The smell of desperation coming from the McCain campaign as as bad as the stench coming from between Michelle Malkin's legs"

LOL this is priceless

another significant example of Palinization
LOL.

The left is slowly melting down.......
such a glorious sight

Posted by: Anonymous at September 20, 2008 8:54 PM

That bitch needs to be beat to death with a baseball bat, but over a several hour period!

Posted by: walt235 at September 21, 2008 12:37 AM

"This woman is vile beyond belief."

"she's a sick, filthy, disgusting lesbian.
she's headed straight to hell, on the fast track."

"As for Bernhard, what a whore she is..."

"That bitch needs to be beat to death with a baseball bat..."

Ahhh, the Christian right at it's finest. Love, love, love...I'm guessing your saviour would be proud? How dare you criticize anyone..

Posted by: Anonymous at September 21, 2008 2:40 AM

Ahhh, the Christian right at it's finest. Love, love, love...I'm guessing your saviour would be proud? How dare you criticize anyone..

Posted by: Anonymous at September 21, 2008 2:40 AM


Anon - I miss the part where it says anywhere around here this is a "Christian site" you stupid labelling freakazoid piece of homo crap. You jacking-off in your mamma's basement again, you stupid worthless pussy?

Posted by: NYOB at September 21, 2008 4:34 PM

Yo Frank Rizzo

Do you have my eyeglasses? I was beaten terrible and I lost my shoe and eyeglasses.

Posted by: Sol Rosenberg at September 21, 2008 6:00 PM

"new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bullsh*t," = New testament

So. There we have it in a nutshell. This repulsive daughter of cain has spoken what many think of the new covenant, the writers of it and of course Christ. No news there. I welcome Bernhardt's big fat dyke mouth coming forth and spewing more of this just to remind people that her views are not rare or far left of center -- not at all. It's just that most folks don't frequent drug dives and other comedic sewers to hear it. Keep it up rephaim. Time is growing short.

Posted by: fellowes at September 22, 2008 6:26 PM

Sol Rosenberg-----Nicely said.

Posted by: Marietta at September 25, 2008 9:22 PM