August 24, 2008
Obama Praises "Vastly the Superior" Communist China
If Obama gets a chance to inflict Change on America, he'll have a ready-made model: communist China, where wages are kept low with slave labor, the government censors the Internet and arrests reporters, the air is unbreathable, and dissidents disappear into reeducation camps. Here's Obama praising the system founded by Mao Zedong, who killed more of his own people than any other tyrant in history:
Everybody's watching what's going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are all vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business … you're starting to think, "Beijing looks like a pretty good option." Why aren't we doing the same thing?
We've come to a pretty pass when a presidential candidate suggests with a straight face that we ought to make ourselves more business-friendly by emulating a communist police state.
The communist China that so impresses idiots like Obama is a Potemkin Village, as phony as he is. Via Q&O, these shots sum it up:
Imagine what it looks like outside of Beijing.
Hat tip: Hot Air; on a tip from Smoke TNT.
Posted by Van Helsing at August 24, 2008 12:51 PM
You know, it's pretty easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about environmental impact studies, building permits, property rights...oh yeah, and using slave labor as your workforce.
But I guess it's alright, because it's a non-democratic, non-capitalist, non-white country doing it. Yeah, that makes "Beijing look like a pretty good option"...if you aspire to be a socialist dictator.
Posted by: matt at August 24, 2008 1:29 PM
Obama's bro may make a great teacher on Long Island!
There once was a time when campus highjinx referred to the antics of college kids engaged in such harmless stunts as conducting late night panty raids, swallowing goldfish, or stuffing twenty human beings into a Volkswagen. Those college days are long gone.
Many of today’s college students are so hungover from last night’s binging and with heads so clouded with marijuana that they wouldn’t know how to conduct a panty raid or they would confuse a goldfish with a bong. As for stuffing twenty of themselves into a Volkswagen, they’re far too busy stuffing themselves into coeds.
The trickle down has trickled into high schools, middle schools, and even elementary schools and whereas in olden days when the chief issues teachers had were kids chewing gum and talking in class, contemporary problems often involve sex and drugs and rocking and rolling in ways their grandparents could never have imagined.
The Guttmacher Institute, a “research arm” for Planned Parenthood and a purveyor of abortion, (see http://www.pop.org/main.cfm?EID=628, and http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=10643) reports that almost half of 15-19 year olds have had sex, by 15 “only” 13 % have had sex, but by age 19 some 70% have gone all the way, as we elders euphemistically called intercourse. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_ATSRH.html.
The recent scandal that rocked Gloucester High School in Massachusetts, which caters to kids bearing kids, may have been an aberration to a degree since teenies there actually planned their pregnancies, but sex in all its variations has clearly become one of the most popular indoor–and sometimes outdoor–sport in and out of America’s public schools. (See previous articles on this website on Gloucester High and teen sex.)
Many teachers have adapted to this new educational environment in less than pedagogically-sound ways as seen especially in Parts One and Two of this series and, again those incidents were not exceptional.
Others included a senior field trip to Washington D.C. when a science teacher chaperone seemed to forget the purpose of his presence in the hotel–to chaperone, protect, and guide those in his charge. Mr. D. was a married man whose excuse was that he was trashed when he broke into a girls’ room and attempted to rape one of them. He was summarily not discharged and sent packing although a letter of reprimand may have been placed in his personnel file. Police were not summoned; they rarely are since police reports and publicity were anathema to school administrators.
Then there was the sordid case of Mr. J....
(For the rest of this article, please see http:genelalor.com/)
Posted by: Gene Lalor at August 24, 2008 3:20 PM
Gene - seriously, dude - there's an open thread for that kind of shameless "see-me, read-me" crap.
Obama's new VP candidate needs to slap the shit out of that clean and articulate jerk (Obama, not Gene - for all I know, Gene hasn't bathed in a week). How much "communism is wonderful" crap does the Obamamessiah believe the Amarican people will take? A few more Saddleback debacles, Obamayomoma will be throwing HIMSELF under the bus.
Posted by: Jimbo at August 24, 2008 4:18 PM
"...Their ports, their train systems, their airports are all vastly the superior to us now..."
Uhbama has successfully put down America while praising a communist dictatorship in the same paragraph. Can't say too many presidential leaders have the ability to do that sort of thing. As to China's transport hubs being better then ours, has he looked outside of Bejing?Probably not. Nor would the Chi-coms let him, I assume. At least America has all its assets distributed evenly around the board.
Posted by: conservativeteen at August 24, 2008 4:40 PM
Sorry, slight correction:It should be "canidates" instead of "leaders". Or "Political" instead of "Presidential." My brain has a way of mixing things :P
Posted by: conservativeteen at August 24, 2008 4:43 PM
Obamanation is the true Anti-Regan.
Too bad he is really just the same ole Jimmy 'Big Teeth' Carter, just a little darker.
Why do Dimmocrats keep reinventing stupid?
Obama's view and supposed policies to deal with real threats to the USA are the same as Carter's, just repackaged.
Obama is the product of a brilliant marketing campaign targeted at people to young to realize what an absolute failure the Carter Administration was, or what it cost the USA on the world stage.
Posted by: Oiao at August 24, 2008 4:44 PM
Did you even listen to what he said, or read the transcript in your own article?
"Their ports, their train systems, their airports are all vastly the superior to us now..."
He's not talking about the Communist system. You are so blinded by hatred you can't see the truth even when you type it yourself. I pity you.
Posted by: Dale at August 24, 2008 4:57 PM
You are a bit of an asshole, don't you think?
Either that or you are the king of misquote.
Stop being a dumbass and making up your own stories because we are not all stupid.
By the way? Americans can't even pay for parking with their cellphones so you just run with how superior america is.
Its a shithole.
Posted by: silencer at August 24, 2008 4:58 PM
Hey Obama fan Trolls – if China’s infrastructure is so Obamasuperior, why is this happening? Get a clue you Obamatrons. Lets debate facts, not your clueless beliefs.
Posted by: Oiao at August 24, 2008 5:06 PM
Oh, one more thing Troll silencer. If America is such a S*** Hole, as you believe, why don't you take your whiney A** (Donkey) and leave?
Simple question for most thinking Americans, yet a difficult question for you, no?
Posted by: Oiao at August 24, 2008 5:10 PM
Very likely it is, when compared with Indonesia.
Posted by: bill-tb at August 24, 2008 5:18 PM
Would I be correct in assuming you have your plane ticket out of this shithole? Or is it just wishful thinking on my part? There are plenty of paradises you can go to, like Cuba, Russia, Kosovo, Iran, or even China.
We're not all stupid, but you are.
Oh, btw, I wouldn't pay for parking with my cell phone if I could.
Posted by: single stack at August 24, 2008 5:20 PM
The US is a shithole when compared to Indonesia? Are you serious?
Posted by: skh.pcola at August 24, 2008 5:22 PM
To be strictly fair, matters like diverting water from homes to make the Olympic Village look good isn't a Communist trick particularly. The old Imperial government was prone to doing the same kind of thing (so was the Tsarist government of Russia, for that matter). Communism didn't make China a whole lot worse - there have been several Chinese Emperor as bad as Mao - it just didn't make it any better.
And that's the problem. Communism tends to take root in absolute hell holes, with loooooong histories of every succeeding Ruling Class treating the People like farm animals, and become an instant case of "Here's the new boss, same as the old boss".
Maybe a little more efficiently. Maybe. Not that that's a good thing, when you are talking about the political murder of millions.
It isn;t as if Communism tried against a more enlightened background had any better results; the local government of Berkley CA has, since the Socialists/Communists/and whackos took over in the late 1960's, degenerated into an authoritarian clique that is openly contemptuous of what the local little people think or want.
But what is wrong with China has been wrong in China for a long time. A lot longer than the Communists have been in power. They promised to fix it, and promptly made themselves the beneficiaries of it. For which they should rot in hell. But they didn't come up with any of it.
They aren't that original.
Posted by: C. S. P. Schofield at August 24, 2008 5:24 PM
Now the cultists are claiming that when The Uhbamassiah said that China was better than the USA, he didn't really mean China was better than the USA, even though they think it is.
Posted by: V teh K at August 24, 2008 5:53 PM
Way to completely misinterpret his words. Im not really an Obama fan, but all of you that try to nay say completely fail. He never praised the Communist system, he praised certain public systems in China. Coincidentally, that is what Communist regimes are best at. Unfortunately for them, they fail at a lot more.
I am so ashamed with Americans that cannot see the problems of their own country and blindly praise every aspect of it. Open your eyes. I love my country, but it will take a lot of work to make it the best country in the world again.
Yes, America is lacking right now. Our economy is being trampled by many European countries and our civil rights are laughed at by the people we put in power ("[The constitution]... is just a piece of paper"). No, I will not leave the country just because I fulfill my civic duty to bitch about our government. I do, however, wish all the ignorant, apathetic, warmongering halfwits to leave.
Posted by: Gio at August 24, 2008 5:55 PM
Barack Obama may be one of the nicest of guys, in a normal friend/friend relationship, but he is in no way ready to function in any capacity as president. He's too locked on to his own ignorance, and instead of people coming alongside to help him see, he's surrounded by even bigger idiots. The only good investment to make right now is in weapons and ammo for those weapons to defend yourselves. If he get's elected, we'll need to defend ourselves not only from the normal negatives, but our own government...
Posted by: Kenn at August 24, 2008 5:59 PM
Ironically, the one place we need infrastructure improvement... like a nice solid barrier across the southwestern border... is the one place Barack Obama has no interest in building.
Besides which, I don't know if The Uhbamassiah has noticed, but every time someone wants to make improvements to US Infrastructure, a dozen environmental groups (Democrat allies) sue to prevent it. O'Hare airport in Chicago is experiencing this right now. LaGuardia Airport in New York has wanted to do a runway extension for decades, but is blocked by environmental groups.
The real stupidity here is The Uhbamassiah praising China for doing the things his own party blocks in the USA. And his even stupider cultists coming in to defend him.
Posted by: V the K at August 24, 2008 6:23 PM
Our economy is a leading indicator of EUro economies. Their economies are "trampl[ing]" ours like Biden has a higher IQ than me and V the K combined...which is to say, they are not. Their economies are tied directly to the US economy.
And whether or not you are "really an Obama fan" is superfluous. You are "ashamed with [sic] Americans" who don't share your typically-negative, leftard ideology. I bet you welled up with tears when Michelle dUhBama was finally proud of America, right?
Further, there are no "public systems" in China. The government owns everything and can take everything from anybody at whatever time that they wish. You deceptively say that "He never praised the Communist system," yet Beelzebub Obama admires the entire country (and its rulers, by proxy) enough to think that companies would rather relocate there instead of the US.
See, your problem is that you believe that you and your ideological brethren speak in such a nuanced language that individual words don't matter and that parsing is fruitless. But as dUhBama himself said, "Words matter!!1!" Yours, above, and Obama's, everywhere, mark both of you as socialist, collectivist, doctrinaire retards who think the answer to every problem lies in your vacuous noggins. It ain't true.
Posted by: skh.pcola at August 24, 2008 6:51 PM
You'll never shut me up, dipshits.
If you want to, you can give up your freedom of speech, give up your rights to property, give up you guns, give up your individuality, give up your right to have children, give up your religion, give up everything for your stupid little fake ObamaGod - but do it with out us (US) you ignorant little pea brained underwear stains.
Posted by: Jimbo at August 24, 2008 7:11 PM
"Pay for parking with your cell phone" - OMG!
Benito Mussolini made the trains run on time you stinking ignorant rice-brained communist.
Posted by: Jimbo at August 24, 2008 7:19 PM
V the K, I agree with you somewhat. I would just like to point out that I do not lean even remotely to the left. I am "hardcore" conservative. Some may even say libertarian, though I try to shy away from labels unless I need to explain to people where I stand.
I may have come out too pessimistic in my post. I am not one of those people that think the US is heading into an economic hole, or that we are too far gone to be saved. Also, yes, our economy may influence the entire world, but we are losing that grip on western society quickly. Our economy is in poor shape and I am not about to sit around and cheer "America is #1!!" when we clearly are not number one anymore.
I was not talking about China as a country, but communism as an ideology. China has a tyrannical grip on it's citizens. That cannot be disputed. But face it, communism gets a few things done that only communism can. I am not by any means praising it, for it completely destroys individual rights and ultimately is destructive to it's society. They may be our "enemies", they may not be democratic, hell, they may be evil, but even China has it's diamonds in the rough. Even Hitler had a scientific research department that puts us to shame today. Overall he was terrible, but he did do a few things that affected modern society in a positive way, much like China.
I would like to point out, though, that China's public transportation isn't that good. I have a friend who traveled across the country, and he said the trains were ridiculously crowded.
This time, try to shy away from attacking someone that you don't know anything about, and try attacking the issues.
Unless of course, you know as much about the issues as you know about me. :)
Posted by: Gio at August 24, 2008 7:20 PM
Great pictures, reminds me of 1960 Yugoslavia(communist country under Marshall Tito at the time). I went there on a visit and walking down the main street of the city of Split, I was impressed by the really nice large apartment buildings and the beautiful streets and sidewalks. When I got to the end of the street, I was surprised to see that all the buildings were only fake fronts, like many of the buildings on sound stages at Universal pictures. I didn't have a camera with me to take pictures, but it has stuck with me that communism was always 'a front' and about appearances. No substance. These pictures are certainly only for the tv cameras and tourists.
And Obama thinks they are great? I personally don't agree with him.
Posted by: Redteam at August 24, 2008 7:32 PM
Yep...nuanced, that's the new word for the new (God forbid) administration.
NOOOO, Barack wasn't praising the communist SYSTEM, just saying that China with it's VASTLY superior infrastructure was looking to be a much better investment than the U.S.
WHAT A BUNCH OF SHIT. As was said before, if you use slave labor, have zero environmental groups demanding you not do things because a toad or bird might be displaced, if you can throw people out of homes when you need some room...then beefing up the infrastructure is no sweat.
All the innovation, all the modernization, all the free thought in the world comes from the U.S. And when you are running for President, saying that a communist country "looks pretty good" isn't nuanced, it's ignorant.
Posted by: matt at August 24, 2008 7:32 PM
If you were a ""hardcore" conservative," you wouldn't have uttered the "warmongering halfwits" epithet earlier. So I call bullshit.
But face it, communism gets a few things done that only communism can.
By golly, you are right! Communism and Islam are the only two ideologies that can kill MILLIONS of people and still have gloating retards in civilized countries admire the atrophied thinking necessary to implement either system. Shazam!
Even Hitler had a scientific research department that puts us to shame today.
Yeah, it is incredible what you can do when morals and ethics don't stand in the way of progress. Despite leftard screeching about corporations, US companies do a pretty damned good job of doing "right."
Posted by: skh.pcola at August 24, 2008 7:39 PM
If Obama is so enamored with China, wonder why he hasn't relocated there. Let's see now, how many countries are people breaking all kinds of laws to get into? I can only think of one. How many people are trying to get out of China vs trying to get into China. I don't think to many are breaking the law to get into china to have a better standard of living.
Someone above said we are pretending to be No. 1. Just who the hell is number 1 if it's not the US?
And I can tell you right now, there is no other.
Posted by: Redteam at August 24, 2008 7:41 PM
"If you were a ""hardcore" conservative," you wouldn't have uttered the "warmongering halfwits" epithet earlier. So I call bullshit."
So, conservatives are warmongers? You don't have to have an orgasm at the thought of bombing "them damn A-rabs" to be conservative. Actually, that is the complete opposite and I suggest that you take some political science classes at your local community college to brush up.
"By golly, you are right! Communism and Islam are the only two ideologies that can kill MILLIONS of people and still have gloating retards in civilized countries admire the atrophied thinking necessary to implement either system. Shazam!"
You completely miss the point and just come off as a misinformed dick. I bet you also think Russia is invading good ol' democratic Georgia because of their freedom. Get out of here, you tool.
Posted by: Gio at August 24, 2008 7:54 PM
Oh, forgot to add.
America is dominated by the middle class. Our middle class is quickly sinking farther down the ladder, while those US business that are "doin it right" make more money at the expense of the citizens by, coincidentally, moving their labor to China. Middle classes in some European countries and to some degree, even Australia, are starting to have better quality of life in comparison to us.
Therefore, we are not the blaring #1 that we used to be. We are just average when it comes to the western world.
Posted by: Gio at August 24, 2008 7:58 PM
Per Gio: "Even Hitler had a scientific research department that puts us to shame today"
Let's see... they came up with the Volkswagen, the MG-42, and the first functional jet fighter... we came up with the A-bomb. Game, set and match, US of A.
And yes, I'm aware we didn't drop a nuke on Berlin... but we could've if the war had gone on just a few more months.
Posted by: PabloD at August 24, 2008 8:17 PM
Geo, I agree that USA is turning in to the 3d world faster than stuff through a goose.
A lot of it is illegal immigration of Chinese and Mexicans (add in any other number of Central American Countries citizens).
We should be just like China and control our borders with an iron fist.
Oops, OK, wait a minute, I can't hear myself think, wait, uh, uh a minute (ala Obama speach pattern), China does that to keep people in, I'm meaning the USA should do it to keep people out.
Geo, do us all a favor and stand behind your convictions and beliefs and vote to secure the border to save the USA.
Posted by: Oiao at August 24, 2008 8:34 PM
Gio, I've been here for years. Where have you been? Out trolling DailyKOS and other websites that match your bias?
So, conservatives are warmongers?
You said that, not me. However, conservatives recognize the reality of the necessity of war. You libtards do not. In your unicorn-laden Utopia, there is no war, even when expansionist, violent entities such as China and Russia begin to flex their muscles. War has its place. We recognize that, you don't.
I suggest that you take some political science classes at your local community college to brush up.
I suspect that your attendance at the same has rotted your brain. I am currently in graduate school in a real degree program, not some leftard bullshit like "political science." That is not a "science," it is a hobby and/or interest. Your high-brow attempt at intellectual one-upmanship is epic fail.
Our middle class is quickly sinking farther down the ladder
Do you really persist on your exhortations that you are conservative? Because, if you actually are, you are the most ignorant conservative that I have ever encountered. FYI, the middle class is not static. Rich people become poorer, poor people become richer. Your class and wealth envy is showing, fooktard.
those US business that are "doin it right" make more money at the expense of the citizens by, coincidentally, moving their labor to China.
No, those companies are saving money for US consumers by offering lower-priced goods. Not that I would expect a socialist schooled in "political science" to know a damned thing about reality, though. Further, I know of very few instances where any company has moved more than a few upper management-types to China...US companies aren't "moving their labor to China." Dumbass.
I bet you also think Russia is invading good ol' democratic Georgia because of their freedom.
May I suggest that you didn't pay a lick of attention in your political "science" classes? Because you obviously haven't the faintest clue about the cultural shortcomings of Soviet-era autocrats. You might want to brush up on your so-called education before you purport to be a "hard-core conservative." You aren't even a soft-core conservative. Although, come to think of it, you might support that idiot McCain, which in no way gives you any conservative bona fides.
Posted by: skh.pcola at August 24, 2008 8:56 PM
Even Hitler had a scientific research department that puts us to shame today.
Are you familiar with Hitler's superior medical research? It sounds like you might not be, so I will provide you with a link to descriptions of some of it:
The story that sticks in my mind from reading The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich as a kid was the experiment where they would lock a prisoner in a 2-foot by 2-foot cell and deny them food and water until they perished. The prisoners were so desparate that they would drink their own urine.
Try to imagine yourself in these victims' shoes and then tell me again that you think that our research is shamefully inferior.
(By the way, The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich ought to be required reading in our schools. It should be assigned just after explaining that Hitler was a Socialist, and a very exemplary one at that.)
Posted by: ent at August 24, 2008 10:01 PM
Gio would NEVER call most of us a "dick" to our face.
But I'd jump at the chance to call it a "pussy and moron" to it's face. Think it will take me up on it?
Naw... Just another worthless windbag causing global warming by breathing.
Posted by: Jimbo at August 24, 2008 10:46 PM
Obama actually has a point.
Unfortunately, he neglected to mention that it is his own damn policies (and those of his supporters) causing the problems.
Posted by: Zap at August 25, 2008 1:03 AM
The Obamessiah was right about one thing.... superior ports. Specifically, Hong Kong.
Oh, but wait a minute... Hong Kong (the ports AND the city itself) wasn't *built* by the Glorious People's Revolution; it was merely inheirited. It was built by laissez-faire capitalists. The Chi-coms tried to replicate it in Shanghai, and failed miserably. Is failure the thing that commies do so well?
I mean, besides mass murder? They're #1 at that, for sure.
Posted by: hiram13pm at August 25, 2008 1:55 AM
If The Uhbamassiah and his Cult are so worried about companies leaving the United States, maybe they should do something about the U.S. having the second highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world, or do something about the crushing level of regulations and lawsuits in the USA.
Oh, wait, they do want to do something about that. They want the tax rates to be higher, they want more regulation, and they want no restrictions on the tort bar whatsoever. No wonder the U.S. graduates lawyers while China graduates engineers.
Posted by: V the K at August 25, 2008 3:42 AM
Good lord. A few of you are coherent, but the lot of you are complete idiots. Attack the words, but ignore the message. You people have no insight or comprehension skills.
Most of you did with my comments, what this article did with Obama's words, took them completely literal and ignored the context or subtext. Props to V the K, tho. You actually sound like you know what you're talking about.
See you next article.
Posted by: Gio at August 25, 2008 7:15 AM
Why aren't we doing the same thing?
because the democrats want the money for their socailist games and drain infrastructure as boring and a purpose of the old minimal state, not the new massive state.
Posted by: Artfldgr at August 25, 2008 8:09 AM
The words are the message, you ignorant imbecile. You are engaging in the liberal mental masturbation that I referred to earlier, but you are too much of a dumbass to recognize your paucity of logical, analytical thinking.
Posted by: skh.pcola at August 25, 2008 8:56 AM
"Attack the words, but ignore the message. You people have no insight or comprehension skills."
Comprehension refers to organizing the words used into a coherent message. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how one portrays a message without words? Or maybe you could just admit you're clueless and trying to defend the indefensible.
It's like you're saying it's OUR fault that you didn't write something we agree with. If you want to be understood better, then make it so, yourself, idiot.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 25, 2008 11:04 AM
Here's what you have to ask yourself: Is it necessary to praise, or even appear to praise, a brutal communist regime in order to make the case for government spending on American infrastructure? I would argue that it is not. The fact that praising the achievements of a communist regime is the place Uhbama went to reveals a great deal about his mindset.
Posted by: V the K at August 25, 2008 11:45 AM
Obama is an Idiot. Experts Say China's Infrastructure Lagging Far Behind Demand
Posted by: Oiao at August 25, 2008 4:47 PM