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August 19, 2008
Joe Klein: Soak the Rich to Please Jesus
The theological revelations continue. Recently, we've learned that Jesus supports Utah Democrat Bennion Spencer in his run for Congress, and would be even more in favor of abortion than Barack Obama, if only that were possible. Now Time magazine's Joe Klein proclaims that Jesus likes high taxes.
Here's Klein's advice on what Obama should have done at the Rick Warren forum, instead of blathering about how he doesn't know if the babies his favored policies kill are humans or not:
He might have quoted Jesus on how difficult it is for rich people to go to heaven: "It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle…" and said something like, "I want it be easier for rich people to get in… We need to tax them more for their own good."
Pathetically, Klein also lends support to the lame conspiracy theory that McCain only made Obama look like the shallow fool he is because Warren had snuck him the questions in advance. When this campaign is over, it will take the mainstream media a generation to recover the credibility it has squandered.

On a tip from V the K.
Posted by Van Helsing at August 19, 2008 12:10 PM
Comments
I see the light! Getting the most people possible into Heaven is quite simple: Wealth redistribution. No one is too rich to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
And of course, the government is there to help every step of the way. No separation of church and state issue here.
Posted by: Lyle at August 19, 2008 12:59 PM
Oh I lvoe it when people bring up those quotes...
The rich man wasn't being denied heaven. He was righteous, obeyed the law and Jesus, on hearing this, challenged him to go further than that.
How does a camel go through the eye of a needle? On its knees, shorn of everything it was carrying, with its head down. Look up the "needle gate". :)
Posted by: Archonix at August 19, 2008 1:13 PM
It's comforting that Lucifer has such concern for the state of my immortal soul.
I humbly suggest that he start worrying about his own. And keep his hand out of my wallet while he does it.
Posted by: CoderInCrisis at August 19, 2008 1:50 PM
Class warfare in a religious guise. Amazing. These are the same Dems that scream about church and state...until using it suits their socialist agenda.
Religion and the church should (and do) INFORM politics, but once they start being political tools to further a specific agenda (i.e. churches becoming sanctuaries for illegal aliens), I say yank their tax-free status and treat 'em like anyone else.
As to someone using that Bible verse to promote socialist-style "wealth redistribution", I say to them "You too shall have your reward".
Posted by: matt at August 19, 2008 2:57 PM
I don't think you can point to a place in the Bible where Jesus said it was okay to take away other people's money and give it to the poor.
Posted by: V the K at August 19, 2008 3:03 PM
VtK, does this sound familiar?
Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages." He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. " It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me."
I'd say it describes today's politicians with remarkable precision.
Posted by: Lyle at August 19, 2008 4:56 PM
Jesus said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's..." because the donarius had Ceazar's picture on it.
We have a bunch of dead presidents on our money - they don't need it. And I don't see a single living welfare recipient (or liberal bureaucrat)pictured on a single piece of my money.
Posted by: Jimbo at August 19, 2008 5:00 PM
Yeah Jimbo, I'm pretty un-amazed the wannabe Bible scholar didn't know enough Scripture to attempt to rip the Give Unto Caesar quote out of it context too.
Btw, as Lyle points out, Jesus prophecied that we will ALWAYS have poor people (no matter how much we rob the rich). I guess the Dems should be thankful they'll always have a voter base.
Posted by: BURNING HOT at August 19, 2008 6:26 PM
Joe, thanks for the tips on Christian theology, but...aren't you ...uh...Jewish?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 19, 2008 9:02 PM
The biblical reference is to the "Needle's Eye".
When the gates to a city are closed at night, the only way to enter is through a smaller door in the gate.
If a caravan were to arrive at night, the camels must be unloaded and the camel can enter the city through this slighly larger than man -sized door by crawling in on it's knees.
I wish that more people knew this.
Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at August 20, 2008 4:01 AM
Hella lag man.
Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at August 20, 2008 4:03 AM
Archonix & Cluebat,
I must respectfully disagree with you on the meaning of the "eye of a needle" as referenced in the Bible. If you look at the context (context is everything), you will see the following:
- The disciples were "greatly astonished" or "exceedingly amazed" when they heard this. Why, if this were just a bit of hard work?
- The disciples asked, "Who then can be saved?" This sounds as if they understood the impossibility of the task mentioned. It was common belief that the wealthy were more righteous than regular people, because GOD gave them that wealth as a reward for their righteousness (see the story of Job, and how his friends accused him of unrighteousness).
- Jesus himself stated that with men this task is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible. Again, this does not simply sound like a difficult task, but an impossible one. The point of illustration is that salvation is not of men, but of GOD.
- There is no mention anywhere in the Bible of the "Needle's Eye Gate." One would certainly expect it to be mentioned somewhere. Anywhere. It is found nowhere in the Bible.
It is my hope that you will think this through and reconsider your opinion.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 20, 2008 5:28 AM
Oops, forgot to sign that last one. It is mine.
Posted by: Lyle at August 20, 2008 5:29 AM
Joe Klein is no "John Edwards" when it comes to being an uber-douchebag, but he definitely gets an honorable-douche mention.
Posted by: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg at August 20, 2008 6:04 AM
Lyle, have you ever tried to get a camel to walk on its knees?
Regardless, a quick bit of research says you're apparently right, though the illustration of having to get on your knees and giving up everything you have before you can enter the kingdom of god is rather pleasing in its clarity, I think.
Posted by: Archonix at August 20, 2008 8:14 AM
Archonix, I certainly agree that the camel illustration is appealing. And no, my camel refuses to walk on it's knees. In fact, I'm not sure it's a camel at all. :)
I observe a philosophy I learned from Dennis Prager: "First tell the truth, then give your opinion." Although I see the appeal and application of the "Needle's Eye" story, too much evidence indicates it to be other than Jesus' intent. I do agree we must lose our lives for Him (not a reference to dying, but rather choosing to live for him rather than our own pursuits) and in doing so, we also have the privilege of unburdening ourselves on him.
Posted by: Lyle at August 20, 2008 1:08 PM

