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July 20, 2008
Tax Rates Could Top 50% under Obama
As Obama's background makes clear, "change" in the context of his alarming campaign means socialism. So it should come as no surprise that if we bring upon ourselves the tragedy of an Obama presidency, some will have more than half of their income expropriated by the government:
The Democratic presidential candidate is proposing not only raising the federal income tax, but also adding a Social Security tax for those Americans earning more than $250,000 a year. For New Yorkers, that could mean that if the current Social Security rate is applied, the marginal tax rate, or rate on every extra dollar earned, could rise to 58%.
Michael Graetz, who teaches tax law at Yale Law School, states the obvious:
If the economy remains soft through next year — and it seems unlikely that it will be robust — it would be a very bad time to raise taxes of any sort, but particularly to raise them in this way.
But then, if the point of Democrat policy is to strengthen the party by making more people dependent on government handouts, this could be the ideal time to jack taxes through the ceiling, potentially throwing hundreds of thousands out of work and onto the welfare rolls.
In Russia, in took a bloody civil war to impose communism. In the Land of Liberty, it seems it may only require decades of media control by the hard left, incrementally edging us into Bolshevism by propping up candidates like Obama.

Hat tip: Atlas Shrugs; on a tip from Burning Hot.
Posted by Van Helsing at July 20, 2008 1:18 PM
Comments
I received an email today that breaks down the Obamanation's tax increases quite nicely:
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)
* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....
* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!
Posted by: Jimbo at July 20, 2008 1:59 PM
He isn't asking for much now is he? Sheesh.
Posted by: Thulsa Doom at July 20, 2008 4:22 PM
For an easy-to-understand view of "bad taxes", look up the short film The Case Against the 20% Federal Admissions Tax on Motion Picture Theatres (1953).
Most taxes are subtle, but the admissions tax of the late 40s-early 50s was like a field-test of a ecconomic theory on high taxes, in four years it drove hundreds of privatly-owned movie theaters out of business and put most of the others in debt.
Posted by: KHarn at July 20, 2008 4:51 PM
"MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)"
No, he didn't.
No president has ever raised taxes and no president has ever cut taxes.
No president has ever run up a deficit or balanced the budget.
The president has no legislative or budgetary authority.
There is a saying that sounds trite but it's true.
"The President proposes, the Congress disposes"
The president can propose anything he wants, such as the budget proposal he makes every year. Congress can pass it as is, make any changes they want or throw the whole thing in the trash and start over.
People talk about the president as if he is a king and it drives me nuts. Obama won't raise taxes, he'll ask Congress to raise taxes. McCain won't leave taxes as they are, he won't ask Congress to change them. Bush didn't cut taxes, he asked Congress to cut taxes.
We will never reign in the government that we have allowed to slip its bonds until we reign in the damned imperial presidency. We will never do that until we stop thinking of the president as a king and stop letting him do what he wants with impunity.
Article I, Sections 1, 7, 8. Article II.
Jimbo, I agree that the taxes you outline in your post (and worse) will probably come to pass if America is so depraved as to allow the Obamessiah to desecrate the Oval Office, especially since the Demoscum will drop all pretense and be openly socialist, but please be more precise with your words and stop referring to the actions of the president as if he were a king. He has definite, well defined limitations to his authority and we need to hold him to it. (I ask this of everyone)
Posted by: steven at July 20, 2008 5:39 PM
Good posts Jimbo and Steven. I have one more thing to add. Obama's tax plan is pretty much identical to Charlie Rangel's bill that is in his committee. That bill would raise my taxes by several thousand a year, and I make well less than the supposed $250,000 cut-off for the "bone the rich" meme. The change is hidden as a "reform". The rules changes will mean a significant tax increase for small businesses operating or being taxed as s-corps. Sounds arcane, but there are hundreds of thousands of us who are gonna get worked, and nobody has really taken notice yet.
The only thing that has prevented this so far is a promised veto from Bush. If Obama gets in, it will become law assuming the Dhimmis hold both houses.
I'll ask all the true conservatives to put on the nose plug and vote for Juan McCain, if for nothing else, maybe to save me and other small businessmen thousands of bucks over the next four years. And this is just one small part of the economic disaster that will unfold if that Bolshevik gets elected.
Posted by: forest at July 20, 2008 7:09 PM
Jimbo,
You got an email so it must be true. I got an email from a Nigerian prince that is guaranteed ZERO risk plan to send me 10 million dollars. And it is guarantted, did I mention that.
Obama's tax plans are the least of our worries.
Posted by: Parker at July 20, 2008 8:00 PM
"Obama's tax plans are the least of our worries." - Parker
Obama's tax plan is the very first of my worries numbnut.
I'm familiar with the relatively vague BS Obama puts out there, but it's consistent with Charlie Rangel's HR 3970, so that's the best we have to work off for now. This bill would cost me and other small businessmen many thousands of dollars if passed into law.
I've read the bill. I've discussed it with my accountant (who tipped me off to the problems with the bill months ago). I've discussed it with my best friend who is an investment manager (who confirmed the problems with capital gains and inheritance tax). I've discussed it with several family memebers who also run their own businesses. The "D" plan will punish success across the board.
But over and above the "loot the rich" aspect, the "reforms" are the most devastating parts - that would be the "small print" parts that the MSM haven't reported on. If you believed those idiots, I'd allegedly be getting a tax cut because I make below $250,000, but guess what? I'll be getting a hefty increase in the form of extended FICA taxes on any profit above my salary.
Now listen Parker, I'm not running some Nigerian scam. This is very serious This tax plan is disaster waiting to happen.
If you have some facts to the contrary, please present them. I'd be happy to be wrong about my assessment of the future of taxes under dhimmi rule.
Posted by: forest at July 20, 2008 8:48 PM
Forest, you missed my point, this is the least of his "change". I get it.
Posted by: Parker at July 20, 2008 11:11 PM
I just passed along an email breakdown of Obamamama's proposed taxes. I certainly never inferred a sane congress would pass them (though, if it's a democrat congress, they will).
Parker - shit and roll in it you worthless dumbass.
Posted by: Jimbo at July 20, 2008 11:41 PM
Since I will probably have a choice, buy food and gas for the week, or buy a case of KY after November, I decided I'd better stock up! After Obama gets in, I'll probably be living out of my car!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 21, 2008 8:25 AM
There is one thing that will prevent this, or at least cause it to be short-lived. The people will crucify their elected representatives if they pass this nonsense. The left can bleat all it wants about "social justice" and "health care" and "the children", but when their taxes jump to 50% of their pay, and their companies lay off thousands because they can't bear the tax burden, people will tell those monkey-suited bureaucrats to get bent.
As much as it would hurt in the short term, there might be one actual benefit to a plan like this. Think of it like a vaccine. It will inoculate the next generation, and maybe two or three, against socialism. There is no greater cure for socialism that living through it yourself.
Posted by: CoderInCrisis at July 21, 2008 11:48 AM

