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July 16, 2008

T. Boone Pickens Windmill Ads Explained

Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens has flooded the airwaves with irritating ads, repeating the mindless Democrat talking point that "we can't drill our way out" of our energy problems and calling on the government to spend massive amounts of money literally tilting at windmills, as if it were even remotely possible that they could replace fossil fuels. But Pickens isn't insane — just a little greedy:

Billionaire Pickens' pocketbook could benefit from a sizable public investment in a nationwide transmission network he proposes for wind power. His Mesa Power has invested $2 billion in a wind farm in the Texas panhandle northeast of Amarillo. The record purchase of 685 turbines from General Electric Co. produces enough electricity to power 300,000 U.S. homes. Pickens has plans to spend $10 billion by 2011 on capacity roughly equal to four modern nuclear plants.
The electricity will make its way to Dallas or San Antonio along the route of another project, a water pipeline. Pickens' Mesa Water owns the right to draw 65 billion gallons a year from beneath Texas scrubland and move it, alongside his wind-produced power, some 250 miles toward north-central Texas.
And Pickens' argument that wind should replace natural gas as a source of 22 percent of the nation's electricity dovetails with his Clean Fuel Technologies, the largest operator of natural gas fueling stations for vehicles.

Pickens' scheme, by his own admission, would cost $1 trillion just to build the windmills. Whenever you hear those ominous words "we can't drill our way out," grab hold of your wallet with both hands.

Posted by Van Helsing at July 16, 2008 12:17 PM

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How many nuclear plants could you build and operate over their planned lifetimes for $1 trillion? It's got to be quite a few, right?

"We can't drill our way out" (because I don't own any oil assets). Therefore we need to dump tons of taxpayer money into "alternative" energy (assets that I do own). Ballsy. While I don't begrudge anyone getting paid, I do begrudge them doing it with taxpayer money.

Posted by: CoderInCrisis at July 16, 2008 12:29 PM

Sorry, Pickster...but we sure as hell CAN drill our way out of this.

DRILL HERE
DRILL NOW

The price of oil would drop overnight, not in 10 years or whatever the Dems are saying.

Oil shale. Outer continental shelf. ANWR. Do all that, get 100 domestic oil and THEN (or even concurrently) get the "alternatives" going. It's win-win. OUR oil, OUR renewables...SCREW OPEC.

Posted by: matt at July 16, 2008 1:09 PM

That should have read "100 percent domestic oil". T. Boone got me all upset!

Posted by: matt at July 16, 2008 1:10 PM

A Fox reporter, upon hearing the moonbats in Congress claim 10 years... called the people who would be considered authorities on offshore drilling and drilling in general. Where the infastructure already exists... it would take 9 mos to a year to start producing... where every other country soon will be drilling... "off our coastline" about 2-4 years max. Even in the deeper waters, the longest they project it to take would be about 6 years max. I love it how Congressmen and Sentators become instant subject matter authorities when a plan does not fit their agendas or alterior motives.

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 16, 2008 1:54 PM

I wopn't comment on the artical ecept to point out this fact that any engineer can confirm:

>The record purchase of 685 turbines from General Electric Co. produces enough electricity to power 300,000 U.S. homes.>

The thing is that not ALL of these turbines would be operating at the same time. 20-25% would be kept in reserve for when other turbines are being repaired or undergoing regular mantinance.

HoosierArmyMom
You're right. When gas prices started shooting up, the Libs said it would take THIRTY YEARS to get our own oil fields producing, then they said ten years, then seven years, and this was just in the past year!
Seems like cold, hard reality is catching up with them!

Posted by: KHarn at July 16, 2008 3:16 PM

Pickens is becoming some kind of Oren Boyle character. When J.D. Rockefeller turned the 19th century energy sector on it's head he didn't need national advertising to state that we couldn't whale our way to more and cheaper oil. He just did it. And he didn't get subsidized by the federal government nor have the government restrict his competitors. Screw Pickens.

Posted by: kevin R at July 16, 2008 3:39 PM

When congresscritters and others say it would take, say, ten years to get wells producing what they mean is six months to build and nine-and-a-half years to get permission. Gotta save those squirrels (of whatever species or party) donchano.

Posted by: teqjack at July 16, 2008 3:44 PM

I'm glad you wrote this article. WABC AM constantly plays those ads during Rush and Hannity and Levin. As soon as that old fogey says "can't drill our way out" I wanna shoot the radio.

Posted by: Corona at July 16, 2008 3:53 PM

Windmills only operate at 30-45% efficiency at tops, when the wind is blowing. Adding in the above needed redundancy for keepin a 25% or more deadlined for maint = a huge environmental impact for the entire lifecycle of each unit.

Compared to building Nuke generation with up to 4 reactors each = very low environmental impact over the lifecycle of Nuke Power plants.

MoonBats want to get rid of Nuke Weapons. Turn them into fuel......

MoonBats are just that, batty.

Posted by: Oiao at July 16, 2008 4:43 PM

The reason moonbats say "ten years" is because that's how long it takes to clear the regulatory hurdles to drilling. Technically, we could be getting oil with 1-2 years if the government would get out of the way.

As for windmills, wasn't there a study from the UK that determined that the windmills already producing energy there weren't working very well?

Posted by: V the K at July 16, 2008 6:51 PM

WHO ARE THE MOONBATS HERE?

Seems a lot of these posts are by people that DO NOT HAVE A CLUE what T. Boone Pickens has proposed. To start with I don't see where he has asked for anyone else’s money let alone TAX DOLLARS.

He is not asking anyone to pay for his power distribution lines. He is asking for Government assistance with Government generated RED TAPE tangling up the power distribution right-of-ways in the future.

He does not and has not opposed drilling here and now, but is an advocate for it.

Using Natural Gas (NG) for central electric plant power generation is a waste of a very clean and portable fuel.

His whole plan is an interim solution to redirect NG to displace oil imports from our wonderful oil suppliers abroad. It seems to me that only a true MOONBAT with have a problem with that.

T. Boone Pickens is all about American independence from foreign energy suppliers as fast as possible using all means available.

By the way, for the benefit of the completely uninformed, T. Boone Pickens is a REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: CT at July 16, 2008 7:47 PM

WHO ARE THE MOONBATS HERE?


Seems a lot of these posts are by people that DO NOT HAVE A CLUE what T. Boone Pickens has proposed. To start with I don't see where he has asked for anyone else’s money let alone TAX DOLLARS.


He is not asking anyone to pay for his power distribution lines. He is asking for Government assistance with Government generated RED TAPE tangling up the power distribution right-of-ways in the future.


He does not and has not opposed drilling here and now, but is an advocate for it.


Using Natural Gas (NG) for central electric plant power generation is a waste of a very clean and portable fuel.


His whole plan is an interim solution to redirect NG to displace oil imports from our wonderful oil suppliers abroad. It seems to me that only a true MOONBAT with have a problem with that.


T. Boone Pickens is all about American independence from foreign energy suppliers as fast as possible using all means available.


By the way, for the benefit of the completely uninformed, T. Boone Pickens is a REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: CT at July 16, 2008 7:49 PM

Any of you rocket scientists want to buy my truck? Before you make fools of yourself do your homework on what our candidate is doing. McCain is going with the PickensPlan.

I've never seen such a collection of dumbshits in my life.

Posted by: Fiscally Sound at July 16, 2008 7:49 PM

As best I can recall wind will not lubricate anything nor will it help in the manufacture of things like plastics or pharmaceuticals.

I oppose this ecological excuse for opposition to drilling. I worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. If you want to see the real impact of drilling and oil production on the environment then run down to Grand Isle, LA during the tarpon rodeo and see what the boat ties up to where fish are abundant and the environment robust with life.

Posted by: IOpian at July 16, 2008 9:20 PM

By the way, for the benefit of the completely uninformed, T. Boone Pickens is a REPUBLICAN.

And REPUBLICANS are supposed to be immune from stupid ideas? Are you familiar with John Warner's plan to bring back the 55 mph speed limit?

Appeals to party loyalty don't go far around here. We're not brainless sheep like the Democrats.

You need to grow up a little bit, CT. Throwing ALLCAPS TANTRUMS because some people disagree with you is not generally considered a sign of maturity.

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Posted by: Andrea at July 17, 2008 2:49 AM

From CT

"He does not and has not opposed drilling here and now, but is an advocate for it."

If this is true then he needs to drop the moronic Democratic cliché of how "we can't drill our way out"

and just because he may be a Republican doesn't mean that he is a Conservative as many Republicans with socialistic views(Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chaffee, John Warner, John McCain and tons of others) in the house and senate have proved time and again.

oh, and by the way very nice spam you posted there Andrea, but you might try putting it on leftist sites where you might actually be able to find a lot of suckers.

Posted by: Ludwig Van Beethoven at July 17, 2008 4:21 AM

"The reason moonbats say "ten years" is because that's how long it takes to clear the regulatory hurdles to drilling. Technically, we could be getting oil with 1-2 years if the government would get out of the way.

Posted by: V the K at July 16, 2008 6:51 PM"

I agree. In the industry I work in, which has some similarities to oil/gas leasing and drilling, there's at least an 8:1 ratio between time spent on compliance BS and time spent on actual construction.

There's environmental studies, submissions and responses from various agencies required. Same goes for historic stuff. There's so much crap, it would get boring to list it all, but my personal least-favorite are the new tribal requirements. We need to contact every Indian tribe in the US and ask if they have an archeological interest in each site, AND get a response from each one of them before construction can begin.

The onerous requirements create extensive expense, and more importantly, significant delays.

I imagine the compliance quagmire is even worse for oil drilling, and to add insult to injury, the Democrats are using the delays created by their own regulations as an excuse not to do it at all: "eh, it'll take too long anyway, so we shouldn't bother to drill".

And nobody is calling them on it.

Posted by: forest at July 17, 2008 5:24 AM

Van Helsing,
CHARGE Andrea at July 17, 2008 2:49 AM for advertising on your site!

Back to the subject.
I have NOTHING against wind power, it has been proven on a small scale and when (Or if) I build my dream house, I'll probably put in a windmill generator and a solar water heater. But the trouble with wind and solar power on a large scale is that it is ON A LARGE SCALE! The above proposed "wind farm" will have to cover about 700 acers. Where will you put that? I believe some farmer will sell his land, meaning that no more FOOD will be grown there. Great, huh?

LAND USE is one reason I had opposed the proposed "high speed rail" from Tampa to Orlando along I4. I have traveled along I4 dozens of times and I could have told them that there was LITTLE land there that could have been easily adapted for a rail road, they would have had to build a couple of dozen overpasses for either the rail, or for the auto traffic and in one area there is a small airport, so the rail would have to be diverted hundreds of yards away from I4 on to farms or an industrial area.

Please people, it may be a great idea, but check out the FULL impact of implimenting your plan first!

Posted by: KHarn at July 17, 2008 5:44 AM

Like the Goracle, this guy is looking to pad his pockets while everyone is in a panic over the "Energy Crisis". I just love the way the moonbats ignore the fact that this guy is heavily invested in windmill technology! CT must stand for "Can't Think".

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 17, 2008 4:59 PM