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July 9, 2008

Atheist Bids for Privileged Status in the Military

It's getting easier to join the privileged ranks of the oppressed. Soon all you'll have to do is deny the existence of God.

Army Spc. Jeremy Hall is making a bid to become the Rosa Parks of the godless by suing the US Department of Defense because the Army was mean to him for being an atheist. In practical terms, the lawsuit's success would mean that atheists would become legally superior beings in the Armed Forces, able to use our demented courts to punish anyone who doesn't let them have their way.

Not that Hall hasn't suffered the torments of the damned in our Christofascist Army:

Two years ago on Thanksgiving Day, after refusing to pray at his table, Hall said he was told to go sit somewhere else. In another incident, when he was nearly killed during an attack on his Humvee, he said another soldier asked him, "Do you believe in Jesus now?"

Impressively, Hall was able to withstand this oppression without being reduced to a shattered husk of a man, banging his head on the rubber walls of an asylum.

He also claims that nasty Christians sent him home from all the fun in Iraq and denied him promotions due to his lack of faith. If his suit is successful, denying promotions to atheists will be a no-no, regardless of their lack of qualifications. Just call it affirmative action for the aggressively spiritually challenged.

On a tip from V the K.

Posted by Van Helsing at July 9, 2008 10:45 AM

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His claims are ridiculous. I have a good friend in the Air Force who is both a squadron commander and a practicing Wiccan.

Posted by: V the K at July 9, 2008 11:26 AM

So are you saying that as a state institution answerable to the Bill of Rights, discriminating against someone based on religion should be allowed? I think being denied a promotion because one denies Jesus is a pretty major offense. Teasing by your fellow soldiers is nothing to cry about, but there have been a few cases popping up like this where it seems the armed forces favor Christianity over competency as grounds for promotion. Semper Fi Deo.

Call me a stupid lib, but that's not affirmative action, it's just plain equality.

That said, litigious people make me ill.

Yeah, I don't know how I found this blog either.

Posted by: alyssa at July 9, 2008 11:33 AM

So Alyssa, instead of favoring Christians, the military should favor atheist?

Posted by: conservativeteen at July 9, 2008 11:58 AM

I think there is more to it than being "denied a promotion because one denies Jesus"

He was probably shipped out of Iraq and denied promotions due to a fuck up on his part. He could've been a huge liability to his fellow men around him and like a common atheist male he behaved like a cocky, hot-headed non-thinker acting on impulse in sensitive wartime situations that called for calculated behavior.

So him and his "better than all" attitude mixed with his carelessness got him shipped out of Iraq with no promotions. He probably endangered the lives of his fellow soldiers on a few occasions. It has nothing to do with his beliefs.

Posted by: Zeph at July 9, 2008 12:10 PM

I think he's a whiner. If a bunch of people are praying at a table and he's telling them how stupid they are for believing in God... the politest response is to ask him to find another table.

Posted by: V the K at July 9, 2008 12:14 PM

No, I'm saying the military shouldn't favor anyone. That being the point of the equality part. Sure, if you're a christian in combat, you probably want to pray nothing terrible happens to you. Saying that if you don't favor Christians you favor atheists is a logical fallacy - there aren't only two options here. It IS possible to not favor anyone.

Posted by: alyssa at July 9, 2008 12:46 PM

alyssa, my son is in the Army, he is agnostic, has many friends (battle buddies) some with beliefs in a higher power, some in the middle, and some athiest, wiccan, and whatever. The only thing the guy at the table cares about is whether or not, in battle when things get hot, he can count on you to have his back covered. I would have to hear all sides and know what the investigators come up with, but just from what my son has told me, this guy is probably a jerk who no one feels they can rely on, so they won't waste their time and trust. Those who "don't fit" or believe in the "Soldier's Creed" are the ones that come up with stories and sue. Any time the military looks at charges and investigate, they take it seriously. Until we know the facts, we can't judge. But the military trains these young men to be a team to stay alive, and that means respecting each others diversity. Whoever is creating the rift will get the boot. Lives are at stake.

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 9, 2008 1:14 PM

Also... one of the things my son (he is a step son, but makes no mind), who has had a tough life, was impressed with was that all soldiers were treated equally and had equal opportunities. And given his experience will not feeling equal during his childhood, I put creedence in his word on that.

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 9, 2008 1:21 PM

How do we know that his supperiors "denied him promotions due to his lack of faith"? The burden of proof is with the ACCUSER, not with the ACCUSED.
Liberals have a hard time with that concept when they are accusing people.

Posted by: KHarn at July 9, 2008 1:50 PM

It is just the fact that experience with the military and looking at the situations where soldiers say outrageous things (like that Jesse kid that turned out to be a washout who was never in Iraq made claims he saw attrocities committed!) Well, the disgruntled tend to be V the K said... whiners who don't fit in or get their way. This reeks of someone's pampered, spoilt, pain in the butt trying to get even because he didn't get it his way. People who have problems usually go through the right channels in the military and get reassigned and find a better fit. Suing the DoD is just a moonbat thing to do.

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 9, 2008 2:09 PM

According to alyssa, robins must share the feeder with crows.

How very "simple".

Ultimately a lion WILL lie down with a lamb - but not on the terms of alyssa or her (his?) master.

Good cannot negociate with evil - if It did, It would no longer be Good.

While that concept is so simple to a Christian; it's impossible for a non-Christian to fathom.

That's why the world is still at war. That's why there's still famine. That's why immorality is the king of liberalism - because Good cannot, by its very nature, negociate with evil. And Satan will settle for nothing less.

Posted by: Jimbo at July 9, 2008 11:30 PM

I know what you say is true. I look at the radical Gay movement as the new SS. The actions and tendency to spit on morality is pretty much the same as Nazi Germany. The sheeple react to Obama just like the German people reacted to Hitler, only Hitler didn't have the added bonus of Michelle. It is kind of scary to this ole girl.

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at July 10, 2008 4:18 AM

What a completely two-dimensional blog!

Posted by: DJ at July 14, 2008 11:48 AM