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I disagree with ABC. At least Ireland has just save Europe. For now, anyway....

Don't count your chickens, Rob. If there is one thing the Eurocrats have proven, it's that they won't let the little matter of voters get in the way of the European project.

Ireland is a setback for the EU steamroller, and a very enjoyable, satisfying one. But more of a speedbump than an impassable wall. I predict the next steps will be to attempt to humiliate Ireland by getting "yes" votes elsewhere to demonstrate that Ireland is a black sheep.

If Lisbon goes down in flames due to the Irish, let's remember Lisbon itself was a result of the original treaty going down in flames in France and Holland.

There are, simply, too many thousands of bureaucrats, and too many hundreds of billions of Euros in play now, for them to let the EU project fail or slow down.

But it was still fun.

Sounds the plot of a good SCI-FI movie but its about as realistic as SPACE:1999 was in 1974 that had a 300 person moonbase built in the 1990s....Or the future(in the 2022 30 year old men are shocked at the sight of beef or fresh vegetables) as depicted in SOYLENT GREEN.

Science fiction now passes for Science fact.

Yes mega, they'll repackage it for another vote. Somehow they will get the needed yes. This small victory lets the people know the EU does not work for the interests of the common man but rather the bureaucrats power hold

Don't forget the Brits are agitating their government via the courts for the right to vote on Lisbon. Labour promised it would go before the people but in an about face it has not. They are outraged. Maybe the end of the Labour party if enough realize.

If the French mobilized themselves for the May 68 riots, surely they can muster something to do about this. I hope.

In my darker moments, I think the only way to fix the thing is to knock it down and start over. Bring it on!

V, there are people who are thinking like that. Extremists on both the left and right are equally nutty and dangerous. They caught a few guys in Pennsylvania. Its one thing to prepare for the worst and point out what politicians might do, but another thing entirely when you talk about assasinating politicians and government officials then begin creating the weapons to do it with.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08163/888901-54.stm?cmpid=neighborhoods.xml

"Mr. Kahle said if he had terminal cancer he "might as well" shoot a judge or a few police officers, the agent wrote. "You wouldn't want to be near me. SWAT teams included. Bring them all on. ... don't send the kids, bring your very best. Hey, 8 or 10 good bean bombs ... 5 or 600 rounds of ammo and some good equipment. I would be a tough take," he was quoted as saying."

"Then, on March 27, according to the affidavit, Mr. Kahle offered to make the grenades at their next meeting, saying that he had five or six M-1000s.

Two weeks after that, the affidavit said, "Kahle said words to the effect of, that 'if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama get elected, hopefully they will get assassinated. If not they will disarm the country, and we will have a civil war.'"

I would never advocate murder as means to a political end. I'll leave that to the left.

I am a realist, and I have some knowledge of history. The long historical view shows that decline and rebirth is a natural part of historical evolution. I would not welcome it, although I am better prepared than most. I don't believe that moonbattery is sustainable. If moonbattery prevails, society will collapse. But, out of the rubble, something better will eventually emerge. I have faith in that.

Out of the rubble of moonbattery will emerge either:

(a) a global caliphate

or

(b) a tenacious, bruised but capable, Western fighting force with the staying power to battle back the murderous hordes of the desert, who will then kick the squatters off the world's oil supply and get started with the rebuilding process

Hard to say which way it's going, right now.

Either way, moonbattery will not be part of the future.

V, I agree completely. Its always wise to prepare for the worst whether its natural or man-made.

All it might take is a few nut cases on either side to trigger a massive upheaval the likes of which we havent seen since the 1960's - whether its nuts who want to see public officials assassinated, islamic terrorists or those who want start a violent revolution (left or right) or anarchist kooks who went to recreate the riots of 1968 in Denver this August it pays to be prepared. Civilization didnt end with the riots of the 60s and 70s - a time of extreme Moonbattery (sort of like now). Only time will tell if this time its different.

(a) a global caliphate

The Caliphate is also unsustainable. Islam only prospers when it can attach itself parasitically to a more successful host. Even in Islam's 8th Century glory days, its achievements were primarily those of cultures it assimilated. The intellectual and commercial work of infidels was confiscated by the Islamic state, producing a brief flame of achievement followed by a long inexorable decline.

"In my darker moments, I think the only way to fix the thing is to knock it down and start over. Bring it on!"

Posted by: V the K at June 13, 2008 10:07 AM

Ditto on that, but also thank you for the factual little history lesson.

My son last night reminded me that with voting being computerized, we have no way to know whether or not our votes actually count, no reciept, no way to know if a subroutine "plucks them right off the radar"... he's right. I remember men talking about fixing the old voting machines with rubber bands to keep votes from registering. Right now my son is very fearful that Obama will win and we will end up in concentration camps or worse. I hope there is more common sense out that than what I see.

What-a-load-a-crap.

EVERYBODY knows the world will end on 12/21/2012.

Party hardy boys and girls.

OT: Indiana Supreme Court not terminally infected with moonbattery. Indiana just moved up a notch on my list of states I'd rather live in.

Welcome to BBC Bizarro World, a strange inversion of reality in which Christians Behead Muslims.

John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, rebuttal to Al Gore

Jimbo said "What-a-load-a-crap. EVERYBODY knows the world will end on 12/21/2012."
With our luck, it'll be right after we finally get a conservative president elected, but it's still a month before he takes office. Four years of Obama-mania, then POOF. Oh well, I'll be ready for the sweet release of the apocalypse by then...

"OT: Indiana Supreme Court not terminally infected with moonbattery. Indiana just moved up a notch on my list of states I'd rather live in."

Posted by: V the K at June 13, 2008 3:10 PM

It may be a "flyover state", but it is a true red state! I have a great House Rep in Mike Pence too!
Now if Lugar would quit voting like a moonbat I'd be pretty pleased. :-)

no shit! It really is a BBC tv drama in which a Christian beheads a Moslem.

"It's not meant to be shocking or to cause offence and it comes very much from the storyline."

Wow. Gotta put that in "another left-wing media invention of something that has never happened in the history of the planet". Like 1/2 of all Law & Order episodes about violent Christians.

These people can't predict next week's weather, yet they are all confident about predicting something 92 years into the future?!?!?

Please!

It's Flag Day. Go out and wave one right in a MoonBat's face.

I'm out the door to find some MoonBats!

If ABC was a church, the other media outlets would be referring to them as a fundamentalist cult.

Seriously, it requires a serious suspension of belief to take these climahysterics seriously. The alarmists can't even get the weather right most of the time, and we are supposed to believe the more complex climate models which cover the Earth? Last night, the weather was predicted to be rainy here in NC this afternoon. Not 12 hours later, it says mostly sunny in the afternoon.