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It depends on whether voters decide to surrender to Al Qaeda or surrender to Mexico. I guess tacos are better than falafel.

As a member of the Tribe, it's been a lifelong disappointment that my bro's support Democrats no matter hell or high water. Yet, they still do. Watch and see - they will turn out in huge numbers for Obama, just like they did for Jimmuh. For supposedly the most clever, devious people on earth, Jews are maniacally dense when it comes to voting Democrat and supporting every left wing / socialist cause known to man, no matter what the costs and certaintly of failure.

And yes, it could not be stated better and more poignantly that Jews are supporting the Hamas candidate.

The thing that gets me is it's lefties who keep ranting about the Vast Zionist Conspiracy™.

Talking of which, do you not get invited to the secret Illuminati meetings, mega? :)

V the K,

I know it must be especially frustrating to you, but the voting is only one problem. The support for unfettered immigration, the purposeful attempts at labeling of whites as racists and the activities of obnoxious jewish/leftist networks such as ACLU and SPLC all grate on many people's nerves.

More people are becoming aware of the heavy jewish involvement in leftism. It may become uncomfortable for all leftists, including leftist jews, should something happen to change both the mood and the people's decision to act for change from the leftist system. Doesn't this danger get communicated to the leftist supporters in the tribe and why doesn't it make a difference to those knowing the message? Are they that confident that leftism has permanence that favors jews?

I suspect that you are as ready as anyone on the conservative side for that change to happen, so I don't really expect you to answer unless you decide you want to. If you do want to venture an answer, I would be interested of course. I'm a beginner compared to some in studying leftism from the standpoint of jewish involvement, but it seems an impossible issue to avoid if one is to understand leftist movements and support networks.

I know that the leftists don't care that the community suffers, especially the Israel supporting portion, so why does the tribe continue their support for leftist policies? The leftists don't care for Israeli sovereignty any more than they do for US sovereignty, so the Obama win is favorable to them, but I can't see why it is being accepted by so many jews unless the community is all leftist and anti-Israel? Does that place you and other non-left jews outside the community?

The Jewish support for leftists is puzzling indeed. Is it because they were educated in America, where the leftist brainwashers teach us that Hitler was right-wing? If more Jews realized that he was a actually a socialist, the quintessential socialist, in fact, then perhaps they would come to their senses. NAZI = Nationalsozialist, the National Socialist German Workers party.

Google "hitler was a socialist" for some fascinating reading.

It may be as simple as just overcompensation for the crude stereotype of Jews as a cabal of evil capitalist exploiters. A way of saying "No we're not, look, we're voting for the nice people's party".

Well not the main reason is that jews tend to strive for positions of influence, simply as a means to defend themselves against predatory overlords. It's a cultural imperative that one would have hoped would not be needed in today's world... anyway, what that means in practice, in wester society, is that jews will be - are - overrepresented in the legal and academic spheres. Now you could take this to argue that jews are "controlling" these spheres for their own ends, or you could be sensible and realise that they've entered a rarified echo chamber where leftist ideas have always had a safe haven. Academics tren dleft; jewish academics simply follow that trend. Lawyers trend left for obvious reasons... jewish lawyers will follow that trend. Lawyers and academics very often form a convenient association to attempt the implementation of the academic's more whacky theories. Jewish lawyers and jewish academics, being lawyers and academics, will go along with that.

It's not because they're jewish, it's because they're leftists. Classic example of confusing correlation with causality.

Now, the vast majority of democrat voting jews vote that way because they've picked up the perception that the democrats saved them during the war, somehow, and so it's a vote out of loyalty to a party they assume must be on their side. I think it's getting very hard to ignore that most anti-semitism comes from the left of the spectrum.

I think your comments are good, ent and Ian, and explain much about practical theoretical reasons, but I think most do realize that Hitler was a socialist. I think your answer about the number of them in the lawyer and academic fields could explain much, Archonix. I do think, Ian, that there seems to be a group mentality and that it is consciously directed toward things leftist, including Democrats. The tribe are too intelligent to fall for the propaganda themselves, although many push it for consumption by others.

I fail to see how they expect to come out with a better society with the left, unless there is an underlying reason of self-interest. I think many may recognize the leftist leaders as having a heavy jewish presence and many of them tend to avoid justifiable heavy criticism of certain of those leftists. It's almost as if many know their assigned levels in a hierarchy. Especially off limits seems to be any real criticism of those groups which push race hustling (SPLC) or the breakdown of traditional legal authority (ACLU).

We may be raising more questions than we have answered, but there are quite a few people recognizing that the questions need to be raised and satisfactorily resolved. The heavy involvement in promoting immigration and giving immigrants equal rights (or better) than traditional Westerners can't be all due to a sympathetic identification with those immigrants. The strong support for things Marxist cannot be explained by what most of us know.

I've seen it credibly reported that Jews supply almost half of the financial support for the Democratic Party.

A realignment could be delightfully devastating to the Ds. The Black community (which the Ds have kept largely in poverty so as to maintain a dependent voting base) certainly aren't going to make up the difference.

Katz's deli, a great place to eat when I lived in NYC. I knew the old cashier there, Gladys, she lived in Forest Hills with her husband Meyer.

Anyway, there is an element among the Jews who are so caught up in being perceived as intellectuals, they fail to realize they are supporting their own demise. Knowledge should never be confused with wisdom.