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OT: this story needs more coverage.

UN's WHO gets nod to dictate alcohol use, spread propaganda

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080522/hl_nm/un_alcohol_dc

OT - More EuroMoonBats

Druids, Pagans and Witches who gather at the Callanish Stones every 18.6 years for a rare lunar spectacle, whose significance dates back to ancient times, fear their view of the Moon could be ruined by a 53-turbine wind farm.

It has also attracted opposition from the John Muir Trust, which is worried it could set a precedent for other wind farm applications on scenic areas, and Scottish Natural Heritage. The MoonBats are against the MoonBat progress.

Betcha the Kennedy's contribute to the John Muir Trust to protect their neck of the shore line also.

"A German gay and lesbian association grouses that homosexuals have been denied commemoration and compensation."

In other words, they want everyone else's money so they can be dipshit leaches for life. And it is the typical silly liberal's goal to make certain it happens.

China and Iran look better every day. Hell-of-a-lot better than England.

OT – only because this video illustrates MoonBattery influence of our youth…..and media mentality.

Could it be this is where the Obamanation get’s its history lessons?

Warning vile content and vulgar language

"Nazism was in part a reaction against decadence. The farther people like Wowereit push the pendulum, the harder it's going to swing back again — probably with some help from Islam."

Van Helsing this is very close to what I have been saying countless times.

"Nazism was in part a reaction against decadence. The farther people like Wowereit push the pendulum, the harder it's going to swing back again — probably with some help from Islam."

So let me get this straight: You support nazism's "reaction against decadence"? HMMM...

I'm glad to see you are finally admitting your sympathy with nazism, as it has been quite obvious that you share many of their views, particularly on homosexuality...to name just one.

"Nazism was in part a reaction against decadence. The farther people like Wowereit push the pendulum, the harder it's going to swing back again — probably with some help from Islam."

...but mostly on the Jews, so no worries.

So let me get this straight: You support nazism's "reaction against decadence"? HMMM...

How is pointing out that Nazism was able to succeed in part as a reaction to increasingly overt deviations from traditional society, a defence of Nazism? It's a warning that the lessons of history show that the further deviance protrudes into mainstream societal conciousness, the more of an issue is made of it, the more of an issue it will become. As has been discussed many times on this site, conservatives are not opposed to homosexuality so much as legislation that imposes it onto our consciousness. We think it's wrong, you think it's not - we have a disagreement and that's fine by us. Just don't use public funds to push one side of a controversial issue, and you will find that discourse moves a lot more smoothly.

I'm glad to see you are finally admitting your sympathy with nazism, as it has been quite obvious that you share many of their views, particularly on homosexuality...to name just one. We're glad to see your lack of comprehension skills make you incapable of rational discourse, it's a refreshing new take on liberalism.

And it's ironic that liberal big-government activists conveniently forget what "Nazi" is an acronym for: National Socialist.

Your suggestion is that if gays are granted mainstream acceptance, nazi-like parties will rightfully battle to have this acceptance reversed. Your host here, as well as you, seem to be pining for, and even ecouraging this type of extremist reaction, as in "the gays will get what they deserve, if they push the issue." Nice!

Heh Heh Heh. You said 'Erect.'

Also, you seem to have caused aneurysms among cowardly trolls who post anonymously. Well played.

hey V the K. You are the king of cowards and weasles. That's been long ago established. Also that you are a childish bible thumping, cult belonging, anti-science, anti intellectual nit wit who would be much happier living in the dark ages, or in a cave with your Muslim fundamentalist brothers whose only fault is they worship a different invisible super hero in the sky, and believe in another book of fairy tales than you do.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 28, 2008 1:47 AM

Your suggestion is that if gays are granted mainstream acceptance, nazi-like parties will rightfully battle to have this acceptance reversed.

Right, gotcha. Not following the PC party line on current truth regarding sexual mores = nazi. Shoulda known. Off to the camps with me then, I guess!

Your host here, as well as you, seem to be pining for, and even ecouraging this type of extremist reaction,

I could say that you seem to be pining for a wombat to come along and molest you in the ass and it would have about as much basis in fact as your contention.

...as in "the gays will get what they deserve, if they push the issue." Nice!

No, that's your automatic victimhood function kicking in because someone said something different to what you think.

Conservatives are opposed to the use of public funds to erect monuments to homosexuality. Nazis were opposed to homosexuality because they saw it as deviant behaviour, and they were attempting to "purify" the gene pool to create a master race.

Since conservatives see homosexuality as largely a choice, rather than a genetic or biological trait, it would be completely impossible for us to be opposed to it in the same way the Nazis were.

Being opposed to public funding of monuments to homosexuality, and reminding mindless liberals of the fact that imposing deviance on the public conciousness met with a terrible response in the past, is not condoning that response, nor is it wishing that response to be repeated, nor is it a threat that conservatives intend to make that kind of response themselves.

It is possible to share with the Nazis an opposition to one facet of the homosexual lifestyle, without holding any other views remotely similar to theirs.

You know, just like liberals hate Nazism but believe blindly that a large central government mandating the needs of its people is a good thing and no bad could possibly come of it?

And it's sooooo ironic that liberals have such fascination with calling others Nazis.. when it's liberals who want to force Hamas and Israel together into one country surrounded by hostile Muslim nations, like you don't know Hamas are going to try and finish the job Hitler started; And propagate the same blood libels about the Jews that the Nazis and every other anti-Semite believed and believes.

Amazing how a Christian nation such as America full of bible thumping gun toters came to be a world super power that managed to defeat the combined armies of the axis powers during WW II.

Of course since the 1960s as America has moved towards socialism it has become weaker and full of crybabies who think 0.6% economic growth and 5% unemployment is on par with the Great Depression with its 15-25% unemployment and negative economic growth under FDR. If it wasnt for WW II however the depression would have lasted another decade.

During WW II America lost over 400,000 (over 1 million adjusting for population gains) in 3 1/2 years. In Iraq America has lost 4,000 and the Moonbats think its a unprecedented disaster. If todays Moonbats were around during WW II, Hilters son would probably be ruling Europe, Africa and half of Asia while Tojo's son would be ruling the rest of Asia, Australia and most of the Pacific. Thats assuming America wouldnt surrender and be cut in half - divided up amongst the Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan. The only good thing about that would be no whiny Moonbats - they would be the first executed; as collaborators usually are.

"Amazing how a Christian nation such as America full of bible thumping gun toters came to be a world super power that managed to defeat the combined armies of the axis powers during WW II."

America was most definately NOT founded as a Christian nation! You nim wit! It has been hijacked by Christian fundamentalists however. Read a little about our founding fathers religious beliefs dickweed. Start with Thomas Jefferson. And the US got a ton of help from those commies in Russia when defeating the Nazis. Selective memory comes in handy for the right, dosen't it?

"In Iraq America has lost 4,000 and the Moonbats think its a unprecedented disaster. "

I dare you to tell the parents of the dead and wounded in Iraq that they have not experienced unprecedented disaster! Are you complaining that not enough Americans have died or been disfigured in Iraq? How many deaths are enough to show outrage?

And if Hitler were in power today, believe me, it would be the nationalistic religious right, as it was in Germany in the 30's, rushing to support him.

Remember the left, according to you, is all gays, commies,athiests, and the weak. Why would they embrace a straight, christian, patriotic,flag waver who hated human frailty?

Let me play the "Liberal logic" game!

1: Liberals are against smoking and want to ban it everywhere, even on private property. Nazis were against women smoking, they would go around and yank cigarettes from women's lips, shouting "the Feurer disapproves!" (Real story, look it up)
2: Liberals support, verbally and in writing, the muslms who want to eradicatre the Jews. Nazis tried to eradicate the jews with their "final solution".
3: Liberals see nothing wrong with an all-powerfull government that controls every aspect of life either in communist or muslim countries and want to impose their rule on every country in the world, including constitutional America. Nazis saw nothing wrong with an all-powerfull government that controls every aspect of life and wanted to impose their rule on every country in the world, including constitutional America.

Therefore, Liberals are Nazis!

Kharn,

First of all Nazis disapproved of EVERYONE smoking!

but the point is:

1.Wingnuts are nationalistic flag waving "patriots"...so were the nazis.
2. Wingnuts are dedicated Christians...so were th nazis
3. Wingnuts feel that everyone envies them and is out to destroy them...so did the nazis.
4. Wingnuts hate gays, most minority groups, and relgious views that differ from their own warped interpretations of chirstianity...so did the nazis'
5. Wingnuts respond only to a "might makes right" mentality. Force is the only way to make change...same as the nazis.
6. Wingnuts believe in "my country, right or wrong" "USA #!"...Nazi Germany uber alles!

Well, at least one frothing leftist didn't take his Paxil-Xanax-Prozac cocktail this morning.

Entertaining and reassuring all at the same time.

2. Wingnuts are dedicated Christians...so were th nazis

Nazism wasn't particularly Christian, although Hitler was born Catholic and had some collaboration from the Catholic church. There was a strong thread of paganism, belief in a bond between man and nature and deification of the primeval forest and so on- like modern Greens. You can play this game of belief sytem "snap" endlessly.

Nazism is best characterised as a nationalist socialism, which was why it was called the National Socialist German Workers Party. It wove nationalism into a socialist philosophy of the citizen as merely a cell in the body of the state whose only purpose was to work for the state. That's not the same as conservative patriotism, which characterises the state as the vehicle of people and freedom. Americans waving flags are celebrating their country as an example of "a good place to be" of which they're proud and prepared to fight for.

IOW, in Nationalist Socialism, the State is the sole purpose of life. Patriotism to a liberal republican democracy is the wish to preserve those values for the good of the people; which is why American troops will say they're fighting "for freedom". It really is a different thing. From my own British perspective, the same is true here. Old soldiers will talk of how they fought in WWII to preserve British freedom and to free the peoples of Europe. Citizens in western democracies perceive the maintenance of the nation as the maintenance of their freedoms and values, not as the narrow goal of just maintaining the power of some Fuehrer.

The Nazis persecuted thousands of Catholics. In fact, they were working to replace religion with loyalty to the state, so you can't call them Christians.

Anonymous
your "arguement" is just more leftie accusations with nothing to back them up. You might have just written "I hate you!", it has just as much reason.

Well, the statement that Nazism was a reaction against decadence is only true if you consider believing in freedom and lassez-faire economics as being decadent. Furthermore its pretty much historical fact that Ernst Roehm and the SA had that whole 'homosexual warrior cult' belief system. Those that ended up in the cocentration camps likely were political dissidents (of one stripe or another) moreso than they got nabbed for being 'light in the loafers'.

Lest we forget, the Modern Left is just a reversed mirror image of Nazism (like all Socialist movements).

Nazis were opposed to homosexuality because they saw it as deviant behaviour, and they were attempting to "purify" the gene pool to create a master race.

Since conservatives see homosexuality as largely a choice, rather than a genetic or biological trait, it would be completely impossible for us to be opposed to it in the same way the Nazis were.

No answer to this one then, Anonymous?

Funny thing though, the SS was loaded with homosexuals, though Hitler "used them in his super race breeding program", they were known to be wired the other way. I've read this more than once, but can't remember where, but also, as Ian stated, Nazi's were largely into paganism and the occult.

Anonymous Troll is just another "useless idiot".

And I will add that many of the representatives at the First Continental Congress were ministers and vicars in their communities. Thomas Jefferson showed every inclination of being a "deist", which means he thought there had to be a higher power, but he was not prone to be into religious dogma.
Anyone who judges men by "the group" is really an idiot anyway. Not all Christians, deists, agnostics or atheists are extremists incapable of accepting other points of view, unlike Mr. Anonymous Troll, who states BS gleaned from the KOS as though they are well researched facts.

Neo-nazis and white power groups are equally as open to old-style nature worship and Nordic religious traditions as they are to Christianity.