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April 25, 2008

Germ Tallis Follow-up

A little follow-up on German Tallis, the obnoxious Bush-basher who assaulted wheelchair-bound Maureen Lovetro Tuesday:

To no one's surprise, he's a 9/11 Truther, who agrees with Charlie Sheen et al. that President Bush blew up the World Trade Center.

Germ is a member of the moonbat cult We Are Change. His version of events can be found at Alex Jones' highly sympathetic Infowars, which reports that Talis

emphatically stated he did not assault the handicapped girl. In fact, he said, John Lovetro used his daughter "as a weapon" against him, ramming the wheelchair into his kneecaps and accusing him of attacking the girl.

Asking us to believe that a father used his wheelchair-bound daughter as a weapon to attack a peaceful psychopath is no more of an insult to our intelligence than any of the other paranoid psychosis coughed up by the Truther crowd, one of whom has posted the Lovetros's address and phone number on the Internet, so that they might be terrorized by legions of psychotic weirdos. Already they've had to disconnect their phone.

We Are Change provides video of Germ wasting the time of a Secret Service agent and harassing Laura and Jenna Bush. "Gary" is what the other moonbats call Tallis:

Via Michelle Malkin, here's a shot of the We Are Change gang:

we-are-change.jpg

I'm guessing Obama can count on their votes.

Hat tip: Screw Loose Change; on a tip from V the K.

Posted by Van Helsing at April 25, 2008 9:02 AM

Comments

Not to mention, the police on the scene arrested Talis, not Lovetro... which gives lie to the troofer claim that the father was the assailant.

Of course, the demented troofers and their apologists who are busily spamming any blog that brings up the story, claim that this only proves the Evil Bushitlerburton Crime Family is persecuting them.

Posted by: V the K at April 25, 2008 9:34 AM

Also note, that their video version of events conveniently drops any footage of the actual assault.

Posted by: V the K at April 25, 2008 9:37 AM

I wonder if they don't use "Gary's" real name because they associate German with the Nazis...

Posted by: Sean M at April 25, 2008 9:41 AM

What the hell is wrong with those maggots?

Posted by: forest at April 25, 2008 10:21 AM

911 was an inside job and michelle the psycho will be exposed for the lying piece of trash that she is.

Posted by: alex at April 25, 2008 10:31 AM

Obviously, since the only thing these weirdos are changing is their criminal histories, allow me to suggest a few new, more appropriate names for their little club:
"We Are Nuts"
"We Are Stupid"
"We Are Naive"
"We Are Dimocracks"

Heh. Wanna bet "Gary" is on the terrorist watch lists by now? >:)

Posted by: ahaha at April 25, 2008 10:37 AM

A liberal lying about what really happened? Well, I'll be...

Posted by: baldeagle390 at April 25, 2008 10:39 AM

"Don't tase me bro..."

Posted by: baldeagle390 at April 25, 2008 10:41 AM

I doubt that this will be highlighted by any presidential candidate:

Enforcing immigration laws produces...(wait for it)...less unemployment:

"Unemployment plummets after crackdown on illegals"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62537

Posted by: baldeagle390 at April 25, 2008 10:49 AM

See, I told you yesterday it was a hoax.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 25, 2008 12:04 PM

No, it wasn't, anon. What we're saying is that the pathetic coward Tallis wanted to cover his butt and conceal what a complete monster he was, so he came up with a flat- out laughable account of what happened without any evidence, then had his goons post the personal information of the victim's family so that they could be harassed and threated by Tallis' fellow psychopaths.

Posted by: Adam at April 25, 2008 12:08 PM

That retard sounds like Rain Man..."Uh, 'cause I _really_ care 'bout da Consteetooshun. Uh, yeah, dat's whut dis country is founded on. Duh, duh, yeah, duh." Filthy hippies and leftist scumbags.

Posted by: skh.pcola at April 25, 2008 12:44 PM

Huh... I'm really confused. Am I to believe that you people are this gullible and this fucking stupid that you would think that article has one ounce of truth in it?

Guys they are being sued hardcore for libel this is open and shut period. This whole article is a fraud it's a farce. It's just as fake and heartless as "terrorism" it's a joke. It's a script written down in someones back room in a think tank.

It's like a play it's a drama. It's a soap opera ITS NOT REAL.

Posted by: Mike at April 25, 2008 12:55 PM

Then prove it, MIKE. If it's as obvious as you imply, the evidence should be easy to present.

Remember you Liberals: only in a totalitarian "workers' paradise" is an accusation enough for a conviction, FREE countries demand that the accuser provide proof.

Posted by: KHarn at April 25, 2008 1:18 PM

By the way, all you who defend Mr. Tallis should remember that there were several WITNESSES to the incident and that they are backing up the Lovetros.

Posted by: KHarn at April 25, 2008 1:23 PM

Mike,

Your English is coming along nicely.

How long have you been working on it?

Posted by: forest at April 25, 2008 1:31 PM

You conservatives are so MEAN.

It's OBVIOUS that this is a hoax, as the people who stand for HOPE and CHANGE would never, ever punch anyone in a wheelchair.

Even if Mr. Tallis did punch Mrs. Lovetro, it's a very DISCRIMINATORY viewpoint to suggest that she's in any way less capable of defending herself just because she is wheelchair-bound.

I mean, have any of you seen that Murderball movie about those guys who play that game in wheelchairs?

Those guys are pretty darn scary! And a lot of them are WHITE-- that's even scarier!

I can't really HOPE to CHANGE your opinions, as you are all probably bitter and clinging to your guns and Bibles.

I just hope you all realize just how silly you are for getting worked up over a peaceful protestor punching a crippled disabled person.


VOTE OBAMA '08 -- NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2008 1:47 PM

So, um...Mikey, is it? What brought down the WTC? Small nuke, or exotic super-explosive? And is it true Dich Cheney picked out the names for the android stooges who "hijacked" the planes by driving around Houston and reading the badges of 7-11 employees?

Posted by: V the K at April 25, 2008 3:07 PM

I want to know the address of this mad dog and who pays his government paycheck.

Posted by: CmmiKllr at April 25, 2008 4:51 PM

I love libbies, they think that if they keep yelling the lie with enough energy, people will eventually tire of looking for the truth. The narcissism and religious zeal they project can't be found anywhere in nature. I was serious about finding this guy tallis' phone and home address.

Posted by: CmmiKllr at April 25, 2008 5:11 PM

The attack was a hoax, conservs. Get over it.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 25, 2008 7:52 PM

Any proof whatsoever, Anon?
btw Dan, the fact that she's in a wheelchair might not really keep the girl from being able to defend herself, but the fact that she's in a wheelchair because she has cerebral palsy, a rather severe mental disorder, would definitely make it hard if not impossible for her to defend herself.

Posted by: Adam at April 26, 2008 5:05 AM

P.S. I notice none of you guys defending Tallis are making any mention of how ridiculous his alleged account of what happened was.
Does this guy really expect us to believe that Mr. Lovetro would willingly jeopardize his handicapped daughter's safety by using her wheelchair as a weapon while she was still in it?

Posted by: Adam at April 26, 2008 5:10 AM

Let's see, there is "no such thing as a terrorist"... I'm sure the thousands of innocent people who have died in terror attacks so far this year will be happy to know that... oh, wait... they are dead!!! And where's the evidence that the attack on the handicapped girl was a a hoax??? You libtards state a fantasy and it's REAL!!! Let's see you give some real proof!

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at April 26, 2008 5:28 AM

The troofer stooges who show up to defend Talis and claim it was a hoax have no evidence beyond the bleatings of Talis's demented troofer buddies. The video they claim prove it was a "hoax" stops before the attack and picks up after the arrest. Isn't that convenient?

They think if they just keep muttering "It's a hoax," enough people on their own side will be convinced it never happened... even though the police arrested German Talis, which would pretty much prove to any person with an IQ above room temperature that it was not a hoax.

Posted by: V the K at April 26, 2008 7:09 AM

But if they want to go ahead making asses of themselves ... by defending a leftard who tried to beat up a handicapped girl... let them. It proves pretty much everything we've been saying about moonbats.

Posted by: V the K at April 26, 2008 7:11 AM

It's like I've said before: they substitute their reality for ours and VOILA! They suddenly feel they have the high ground. It's why arguing with them doesn't really work. Facts are meaningless to the deluded. Of course, they think the same thing about us... so what are ya gonna do? ;)

Posted by: monsterforge at April 26, 2008 11:02 AM

Here's the thing that kills me,

These are nothing more than rich liberal fucktard kids (probably from some shitty university) who don't have jobs and whose dip-shit parents support them(financially).

Posted by: Ludwig Van Beethoven at April 26, 2008 6:26 PM

Well, it seems as though German Talis was the one actually beaten, not the kid in the wheelchair.

Hard to believe that VH and the shirt laundress actually got the story wrong (gasp!), particularly since the vile New York Post is actually now being sued for their slanderous article.

Guess there never really are any (and I quote) "rich liberal fucktard kids" around when you need them to be.

Posted by: hashfanatic at April 26, 2008 9:21 PM

First off anyone reports on me Gary Talis, doing something other then what the police report states that I have done, will be responsible for slander regarding the issue. This is a warning to the author, I have not been charged with hitting anyone’s daughter, and no police officer confirmed that. If you are demented enough to think that their is a reason for me to hit a girl in a wheelchair, then you must see the logic in someone doing so which makes you an example of a sick moron with no logic, or your just to busy being dumbed down with your ny Post “sources”, and the sodium fluoride in your drinking water as your brain turns to mush while you watch mindless TV programming. At least learn to use your brain by researching before you post such an illogical article.

Posted by: TheAlmightyGaryTalis at April 26, 2008 10:22 PM

I'm looking into the legitimacy of this story, and it's kind of weird how every single source I'm finding that disputes the Talis story points back to either a Truther site or a YouTube clip made by the We Are Change group.

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at April 27, 2008 1:08 AM

Funny thing, Talis is the one arrested? I have no use for anyone who "yells obscenities at the First Lady of the United States" and then hits a handicapped gal in a wheel chair. The police arrested him, so the BS and lies put out by trolls who wouldn't know the truth or the facts if they bit them in the butt don't hold water. I found a good site called "Peace Thugs Exposed"...

http://peacethugs.com/?p=98

Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at April 27, 2008 9:55 AM

Reminds me of the old line "slamming my face repeatedly into his knuckles, seriously bruising them".
If I had been assaulted with sick kid and a wheelchair, I would be keeping quiet about it.

Posted by: Paul Moore at April 27, 2008 10:35 AM

I have yet to see anyone who isn't an America-hating troofer nutjob disputing the accuracy of the account.

The irony of a bunch of conspiracy nuts putting out a video with missing footage of the assault in question and claiming it vindicates them is too delicious for words.

Posted by: V the K at April 27, 2008 4:24 PM

That's exactly the point.

There's no way to conclude ANYTHING until a thorough investigation is done, each side, the truth movement and the right-wingers, thoroughly attack it from each side (and help those of us interested in an outcome rooted in justice, dissect it), but both the likes of VH AND Malkin can rarely be trusted to actually see a story to a truthful conclusion without jumping the gun and sensationalizing it, because they understand their rabid fans are not interested in the truth, just political "gotchas".

This may be be true of the Watsons and Joneses of the world as well, but it is to a far lesser extent, and blogs like this are the first line in the disinformation wars, so it is to its narrowest audience, 5% to perhaps 8% of the most extremist far right base, that moonbattery.com and its ilk must appeal and serve.

Now, explain to me why your side of the story should be taken more seriously than the other? Particularly when the gentleman in question has no past history of assault or violence, yet many of the COMMENTERS here either brag about theirs, or express the desire to manifest it in their own behavior?

This activist had no apparent reason to strike any young girl in a wheelchair. She evidently had not done anything to provoke it.

There's no motivation.

Now, do the authorities have any possible motivation to stage such an incident?

Have the authorities been behind such acts before?

Wait for the courts to get to the bottom of this before you all (again) make utter fools of yourselves.

Judging from his past work, Mr. Talis appears to be far more of a real patriot than any of you here.

Posted by: hashfanatic at April 28, 2008 12:05 AM

Question from a Diablo II player: How do you use a wheelchair bound kid as a weapon? Equip her in your Left and Right Hands as a weapon ala Wirt's Leg?

That's some freaky attack animation man... And if you tried imagining it with realistic physics, a wheelchair + teenager is not exactly a deadly assault weapon.

Tallis is either a liar or a wimp!

Posted by: BURNING HOT at April 28, 2008 2:22 AM

Btw, that damage-America's-image Bush? He's actually doing the exact opposite:

The Australian: Esteem for US rises in Asia

THE US war in Iraq has strengthened its strategic position, especially in terms of key alliances, and the only way this could be reversed would be if it lost the will to continue the struggle and abandoned Iraq in defeat and disarray.

US’s three most important Asian alliances - with Australia, Japan and South Korea - have in his view been strengthened by the Iraq campaign. Each of these nations sent substantial numbers of troops to help the US in Iraq. They did this because they believed in what the US was doing in Iraq, and also because they wanted to use the Iraq campaign as an opportunity to strengthen their alliances with the US.

More generally, in a world supposedly awash in anti-US sentiment, pro-American leaders keep winning elections. Germany’s Angela Merkel is certainly more pro-American than Gerhard Schroeder, whom she replaced. The same is true of France’s Nicolas Sarkozy.

Even in majority Islamic societies, their populations allegedly radicalised and polarised by Bush’s campaign in Iraq and the global war on terror more generally, election results don’t show any evidence of these trends. In the most recent local elections in Indonesia, and in national elections in Pakistan, the Islamist parties with anti-American rhetoric fared very poorly. Similarly Kevin Rudd was elected as a very pro-American Labor leader, unlike Mark Latham, with his traces of anti-Americanism, who was heavily defeated.

Posted by: BURNING HOT at April 28, 2008 2:26 AM

Tallis is either a liar or a wimp!

Both, actually.

Posted by: V the K at April 28, 2008 6:37 AM

I'd suggest reading a book "The Liberal Mind". No matter how horrible the reign of terror was by people such as these, they think they can stifle the truth with bullying and threats. Hitler and Mussolini were socialists. So were Stalin, Mao Tse Dung, Ho Chi Minn, Pol Pot, Castro, Che, Hugo Chavez, and their host were indistinguishable. They had in common the fact that they were all brutal thugs who by intimidation, threats, control of all the media, enslaved much of the world and accounted for the greatest holocaust of all of human history. their motto is to "Deny, and make counter-accusations". I'm not surprised by their current tack. But we must continue to witness against these sociopaths louder and more dynamically than their tiny minds are capable of doing. That there are thugs on the left capable of doing this kind of thing should surprise no one, as should their capacity for dissembling. The truth is always secondary to their goal of making the thinking crowd submit to their fanatic will.

Posted by: CmmiKllr at April 28, 2008 1:55 PM

I remember a group of Lacrosse players who were accused of rape. The thuggery on the left was in full display during that debacle. Coach fired, almost entire staff of the university declaring them guilty in writing. Black Panthers appearing to intimidate anyone who questioned the incident. The accused being threatened in their own homes. The DA refusing to answer any questions posed him and the media covering it with a very biased eye on the side of the accuser. This incident speaks for itself. Just the act of physical violence in the vicinity of this crippled girl speaks volumes about the character of this mad dog. I'm still waiting for his address. The Libdogs already published her families address by the victims own report recently. A typical lib tactic.

Posted by: CmmiKllr at April 28, 2008 2:21 PM

Hey, Mike, Anon, and Barack...We miss you. Your moral, intellectual, and spiritual superiority to us has us rapt. Please don't abandon us with your superior insight! Tell us again how Christians and gun owners are simple, paranoid and delusional because you obviously aren't. I'm always impressed by your capacity for reason and accountability. Please tell us again about the God of the State in all its splendor and beauty like all the horrible monsters of the past who believed the same thing never existed! I can't wait!

Posted by: CmmiKllr at April 29, 2008 10:12 AM

I guess what the actual police report says happened doesn't matter...

Posted by: hashfanatic at April 29, 2008 1:57 PM