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December 17, 2007

More Moonbattery From Erica Vieyra's Spanish Class

It seems the "let's pretend we're illegal aliens" exercises reported on yesterday barely scratch the surface of the moonbattery Erica Vieyra is ramrodding down her students' throats at Olentangy Liberty High in Powell, Ohio. This Goes to 11 reveals that Ms. Vieyra has a website, where parents can see for themselves what their kids have been learning instead of Spanish.

For example, students watch political movies like A Day Without a Mexican and Wetback. Unsurprisingly, Border didn't make the syllabus.

But students do more than watch movies sympathetic to illegal aliens. They're also immersed in the works of Frida Kahlo, a mediocre Mexican painter and nasty communist:

Kahlo's Communism—now treated as somehow sort of quaint—led her to embrace some unforgivable political positions. In 1936, [Kahlo's husband Diego] Rivera, a dedicated Trotskyite, used his clout to petition the Mexican government to give Trotsky and his wife asylum after they were forced out of Norway. Rivera and Kahlo put up the Trotskys in Kahlo's family home, where Kahlo seduced the older man. (She painted a self-portrait dedicated to him that now hangs in Washington's NMWA.)
After Trotsky was assassinated, however, Kahlo turned on her old lover with a vengeance, claiming in an interview that Trotsky was a coward and had stolen from her while he stayed in her house (which wasn't true). "He irritated me from the time that he arrived with his pretentiousness, his pedantry because he thought he was a big deal," she said.
Rarely is this unflattering detail included in the condensed Kahlo story. Nor is the fact that Kahlo turned on Trotsky because she had become a devout Stalinist. Kahlo continued to worship Stalin even after it had become common knowledge that he was responsible for the deaths of millions of people, not to mention Trotsky himself. One of Kahlo's last paintings was called "Stalin and I," and her diary is full of her adolescent scribblings ("Viva Stalin!") about Stalin and her desire to meet him. Less scandalous but worth noting is that Kahlo despised the very gringos who now champion her work, and her art reflects her obvious disdain for the United States. One wonders what the postal service was thinking when it put Kahlo on a stamp. "Visas are denied to [foreign] artists with Frida Kahlo's politics," notes [Whitney] Chadwick [author of Women, Art and Society].

Octavio Paz aptly described Frida Kahlo as "a despicable cur." But at least Ohio taxpayers didn't have to finance her moonbattery. If only the same could be said for Erica Vieyra.

Here's a clip from Frida, which the kids watch instead of doing lessons. They might not pick up much Spanish from it, but they will learn how trendy it is to be bisexual:

Posted by Van Helsing at December 17, 2007 4:52 PM

Comments

If there was a parent in the crowd with a set of Malkin's they would kick the teacher's (sic) butt up around their neck so far they would strangle to death. It's got to start happening. We pay the dumb a**e* and should get rid of them one way or another. The NEA needs they're head on the chopping block now, not tomorrow.

Posted by: Scrapiron at December 17, 2007 6:11 PM

You are messed up to put her private information on this site

Posted by: Anon at December 18, 2007 5:14 PM

POWELL!!! IN POWELL!!! Ah hell no! Thats a 'burb of Columbus. This ain't gonna stand. Not in my town!

I'm on this one.

(Holy s**t I know where that street is) You probably ought to take that down. Whoever did that......not cool.

Posted by: Moonbat Monitor at December 18, 2007 5:25 PM

I am a student in this Spanish class, and I think that you have done a very poor job reporting on everything we have done so far this year. Our teacher has not been "ramrodding" anything down our throats. I have a question for you- have you ever asked a teenager how they feel about a political issue? More often or not, they will respond with "I dont care" or "I don't know enough about this to have an opinion." Our spanish teacher in no way told us which opinions to have- instead, she provided us with the information to develop opinions on our own. For the first time in my high school career, students are debating what they think is right or wrong. To be honest, I couldn't tell you how my teacher feels about illegal immigration. But I could tell you how 9 or 10 students in my Spanish 5 class feel about it. Our teacher has not forced her opinions on us- instead she has given us the opprotunity to have opinions of our own. This is one of the most educational projects I have ever completed in my high school career, and it's the hardest I've ever worked. I am now fortunate enough to have an opinion of my OWN when it comes to illegal immigration. And I can promise you that it is not the same as any other students in my class. We haven't conformed to one person's views- we have found our own! So thank you Profe for giving us that opprotunity.

Posted by: "L" at December 18, 2007 7:56 PM

A comment with Erica Vieyra's private info has been removed. Though she's a shameless moonbat, I owe her an apology for not getting it down sooner. This isn't the Phoenix New Times.

Posted by: Van Helsing at December 18, 2007 8:02 PM

Hi, I'm Profe Vieyra's Spanish student at Olentangy Liberty High School.

It is pretty pathetic that a high school student has to teach a thing or two to adults who are writing this article, but since the United States is filling with illegal immigrants and a woman is running for president, looks like anything can happen.

Narrow minded, open minded, adults, students: Open up yours minds. Turn on your TV's. You cannot look around and NOT see immigration on the news, in politics, heated debates. We're learning about something that is happening in the here and now. We're putting ourselves in someone else's shoes, which maybe you should think of doing. You're criticizing a teacher for teaching, for educating her students and opening our minds to more than the Powell bubble. I'm not surprised people are acting so offended because I'm not surprised they haven't opened their minds far enough to grasp what this teacher has been trying to do for us. So, if anyone could "ramrod" anything down anyones' throats, it would be some sense down yours.

Thank you Profe Vieyra, for everything you have done. And thanks to my classmates who took the time to do this project with such dedication. And thank yourself, whoever posted this horrible, misleading article, for making yourself look childish, ridiculous and narrow minded.

Posted by: Ashlan Materson at December 19, 2007 8:23 AM

Guess what...it's another Spanish V student responding to your very own brainwashed self. This was the most difficult but amazing project ever. I have never learned so much in my life and especially about such an important issue. Ms. Vieyra should only be recieving praises for pushing us to discover the truths about immigration for ourselves. Profe never once revealed her own beliefs on the issue and to this day I still do not know her own opinions. Rather she made us formulate our own views based on the reality of going through the actions. Also, I thought I should correct you before posting false facts, it was a legal and ilegal process. Like many aliens, we were denied and then had to enter ilegally. My opinions were not swayed, rather unlike your own uninformed bias, I have the intelligence behind my view. And I also was a student of the class that watched Frida last year. Frida is a well-respected hispanic artist and mexican icon. She has contributed immensely to the entire artistic culture. So no Profe is not a communist, rather she is teaching us about the world. So I recommend you open up your narrow-minded eyes to what is around the world.

Posted by: Kelsey at December 19, 2007 8:39 AM

Based on some of the comments above, I have an idea what Ms. Vieyra's last assignment might have been.

Posted by: Van Helsing at December 19, 2007 9:09 AM

The action taken by these students is actually contradicting what the administration and teachers have told them.
So, in other words, fuck off.


You seem to think that Seniors(17+) are very impressionable kids that taken whatever is told to them literally. Well, you're an idiot. Spanish 5 requires a high degree of intelligence and understanding, but you seem to think that if we are shown Frida that we all become dirty liberal bisexual communists.

You are spewing propaganda and spinning the story you conservative cunt.
You do know that the teacher is conservative, right? Wait, no, she must be a dirty liberal because she empathizes with illegals. No, she understands why they try to immigrate here, both legally and illegally. She is not condoning it, but simply showing the draconian/archaic process that they must go through to receive citizenship.

It is in the curriculum to teacher diversity and culture, which this illegal immigration topic certainly fits into.

You really are an idiot Van Helsing. Sorry for all the ad hominems, but you deserve them.

Sincerely,
an OLHS student.


You also can't call Frida mediocre. That may be your opinion, but your bias seems to be interfering with your nonexistent art appreciation.


Posted by: Satan at December 19, 2007 12:20 PM

You seem to think that Seniors(17+) are impressionable kids that cannot formulate their own opinions. Well, you're quite wrong.

In other words, fuck off.


She was merely teaching kids about the process of immigration in general. A view that is often unexplored is the path to legal citizenship. No one understands that this process takes 7+ years and is highly inefficient.

The students were not indoctrinated. The teacher in question is a conservative and not some "dirty liberal" you moron.
So, no, she was not teaching them to be illegal communist liberal lesbians.
Obviously you are closed minded old fashioned idiot, but you can have your own warped opinion.

Just stop spreading bias and propaganda. You do not have all the facts and you are spinning the story to affect your very small readership(yes, no one gives a shit about your blog besides the students right here).

So please, research and think critically before you decide to spin a story.

And all of your credible(whatever existed in the first place) was lost by calling Frida mediocre.

That may just be your inherent bias and inability to appreciate art other than comic books.

Sincerely, an OLHS student.

Posted by: Satan at December 19, 2007 12:29 PM

Oh, Border was a terrible movie.


Go build a wall Van Helsing. It won't do shit you moron.


Open borders and no minimum wage, let the free market balance it out.

Posted by: Jesus at December 19, 2007 12:31 PM

This is BULLSHIT. There is so much bias in this article! THE SPANISH TEACHER ISN'T EVEN LIBERAL! SHE'S A CONSERVATIVE! And the project was NOT brainwashing kids into supporting illegal immigrants! And even if it was, what are highschoolers going to do?! Go to the border and help smuggle people across? NO!

And that argument that kids are learning about Frida Khalo and therefore they are supporting illegal immgration and shit? THAT IS BULLSHIT. They're taking A CLASS ABOUT SPANISH CULTURE!

When we learned about China in class, we talked about Mao Zedong, a horrible communist leader. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE BECAME COMMUNISTS WHO SUPPORTED ILLEGAL IMMGRATION!!!

Posted by: Andrew Lin at December 19, 2007 1:56 PM

I am a past student and I think if youre ridiculous enough to actually post on this website negative things about a teacher you have no idea about then you can just suck it. Erica Vieyra is the most loving, caring, interesting teacher in the world. I learned much more in her class than in any of my other classes. I actually decided to become a spanish MAJOR in college BECAUSE of the information I learned in her class. I suggest somebody do their research and open their narrow minds before opening their large mouths. Perhaps if you want to stay in Powell, Ohio all your life you wouldnt need to learn anything about the outside world... but for the rest of us... we'd like to be a little more open-minded. Id appreciate if you kept your powell housewife ideology to you and your rich pussy whipped husband.

Thank you.

Posted by: Past Student at December 19, 2007 4:42 PM

Hey Van Helsing...

Sorry for the little storm you are having on this one...it's typical of what I am getting too...

The "students" and ex-students who are commenting here don't get the point...it's not that Erica Vierya is a bad person or teacher...it's that she is using inappropriate subject matter or materials to teach.

That is our opinion. This is a blog (as is my site). We are not journalists and we are entitled to our opinions.

I looked at the Ohio guidelines for the teaching of foreign languages (the link is on Erica Vierya's blog...hmm...interesting timing). Nowhere does it allow for the subject matter to be immigration. It DOES however encourage the subject matter to be controversial issues or political matters to be discussed (in that language I surmise) provided they are about the culture they are studying. I guess the United States is now Spanish culture.

And art should be discussed...but a commenter on my site alluded to the fact that they study Frida Kahlo every year. Hmm...not Salvador Dali or Francisco Goya or even Pablo Picasso...superior artists to Frida Kahlo by any objective appraisal of art.

Nope, they study Frida Kahlo EVERY YEAR. And you cannot discuss Frida Kahlo without getting into her lesbianism, sexual proclivities or extra-marital affairs...because they are conducive to her "art".

So listen up all you kids who are getting so PO'd at this expose. It's not that you are learning some controversial subject matter. It's that you are being exposed to ONLY liberally-based viewpoints.

And Ms. Vierya is a Spanish teacher. Not a political science teacher. If this one-sided view of immigration (teaching about empathy, denying EVERY request for legal immigration)is what is being taught in a Spanish class, what is being taught in their government classes?

Posted by: Nigel at December 19, 2007 6:22 PM

"And art should be discussed...but a commenter on my site alluded to the fact that they study Frida Kahlo every year. Hmm...not Salvador Dali or Francisco Goya or even Pablo Picasso...superior artists to Frida Kahlo by any objective appraisal of art."
I would like to point out all of these artists are studied as well at OLHS.

Posted by: L at December 19, 2007 8:04 PM

I would like to point out all of these artists are studied as well at OLHS.

Really? That's interesting. According to Ms. Vierya's blog, the ONLY artist mentioned is Frida Kahlo. NOT ONE SINGLE OTHER ARTIST.

It's been half a school year. Why aren't there other artists on Ms. Vierya's blog?

Also, with the exception of the two illegal alien/sympathetic documentaries, note that the movies used as educational material are all Rated R. ALL OF THEM.

Now I am sure that many of the students in the class are 17 years old, so perhaps Ms. Vierya feels that she can show them R-rated movies. I wonder how many local taxpayers feel like they need to pay for that...

Posted by: Nigel at December 19, 2007 10:27 PM

EN ESPAÑOL SO WHAT!! ...

QUE BARBARIDAD la cantidad de opiniones y demostraciones de completa ignorancia por parte de factores externos a esta clase o proyecto.

1.- LOS so called NINOS de la clase no son tan ninos ya tienen la madurez y capacidad de pensar y analizar que es bueno y que es malo estoy hablando del caso de la Pelicaula de Frida Kahlo, dos mujeres bailando or even besandose piensa usted que afectara la manera de ver el mundo sexual de su hijo? si es asi pues dejeme decirle que ud deberia compartir mas con su hijo y regresar en el tiempo o even give up your role as a father porque si con una pelicula una persona cambia su mentalidad y en realidad no sabe lo que es ficcion o es realidad ..pues señor entonces ud perdio el tiempo criando a un hijo que en realidad lo que tiene son valores familiares y morales debiles y por ende terminaran pensando como usted "past student"!

UN par de tetas y un beso entre dos mujeres son menos peligrosos que la cantidad de marihuana que se ve hoy en dia en cualquier fiesta de high school... es por eso que cada dia me sorprendo mas con la cantidad estdiantes que se graduan del high school even d ela universidad sin la CAPACIDAD DE ANALIZAR y pensar fuera del BOX! Por Dios todo esto es REAL CASE SCENARIO ...Bravo por la Profesora...EXCELENTE MANERA DE AMPLIAR PUNTOS DE VISTA TODAY WAS AN INMIGRATION ISSUE mañana puede ser the GLOBAL WARMING en español.. as long they are developing their ponit of view and she is not taking sides..PERFECTO.! Let them use their brain y pensar, ya basta de no ver mas alla de nuestras fronteras.. Hay que conocer el mundo y mas alla.. Brazil, Francia, Japon, Dubai, Canada, etc.

Estas clases ayudan a desarrollar y proyectos ayudan a ampliar el poder de analizis de los individuos..pero si ud piensa que un nino cambia por una clase, proyecto o pelicula then YOU FAILED AS A FATHER (main teacher in life) ... You did not teach SHIT to your kid...!! Sorry pero la verdad DUELE!! OUCH!

PD. En espanol ya que la gente preparada de un mundo moderno deberia hablar al menos mas de dos idiomas...conocer mas alla de nuestro backyard y vera que mas puertas se abriran ..

Posted by: IN ESPAÑOL so WHAT! at December 20, 2007 12:09 AM

"It's been half a school year. Why aren't there other artists on Ms. Vierya's blog?"
Maybe she does not update her blog with every detail of her class, im not sure. But I've taken 5 years of Spanish at OLHS, and so I can confidently tell you that they ARE studied among many other artists.
Also, this does not answer your question regarding tax dollars, but just in case you did not know, parents of the students signed papers stating that they were permitted to watch the movies.

Posted by: QRS at December 20, 2007 6:24 AM

I put her personal information on the site. You know why? It's not a secret. No ONE has the right to privacy when it comes to your home address or phone number. Where is that written, anywhere, in any state?

No where.

This is not something any person with a tenth of a brain (like the prof or her students) couldn't figure out.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 20, 2007 7:55 AM

I can confidently tell you that they ARE studied among many other artists.

OK, thanks for clarifying. I am trying to be fair. If I can determine that there were class projects involving other Spanish artists, I'd be glad to correct the record over at my site.

Which artists where studied and what were the class projects? What videos were viewed that involved the subject of these artists? Was there a poetry project or art project similar to the Kahlo project given to the students? What did that entail?

I have confirmed that the Frida Kahlo project occurs every year...I have not confirmed any other artist with a similar project.

Posted by: Nigel at December 20, 2007 8:04 AM

Anonymous, regarding Vieyra's home address, I agree that anyone who wanted it could probably find it without much difficulty, and I was sorry to have to delete your comment. It's a matter of netiquette: putting up her address could be taken as encouragement to harass her.

Posted by: Van Helsing at December 20, 2007 8:51 AM

But isn't that what we want? For the public to know who this person is so she can be held accountable for her actions?

What is the point of freedom of speech and the press, if not to inform the public? If she is comfortable with her extremist left wing position, then what does she have to worry about?

I'm sorry if my post comes off as angry, and I respect the fact that this is your website. My hostility is not directed towards you; but I'm tired of playing nice.

We're up against the Media, Congress, the Courts and dozens of countries. The time of playing softball is over.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 20, 2007 9:26 AM

If somebody gets carried away and throws a rock through her window, the media will make her into the Rosa Parks of the Reconquista.

Posted by: Van Helsing at December 20, 2007 10:29 AM

This makes me sick. The nerve of some people. I hope this teacher, these students, who think they can come here and f**k around, and heck... the whole goddamn school ROT IN HELL.

The fact that MY MONEY is being used to support Mexicans cross the border and take more of MY MONEY makes me want to explode. This ignorant, b***h of a teacher should stick to teaching Spanish, not how to break the law.

And these kids think they are f**king geniuses dare to come here and claim they are in the right. Its illegal for reason, theres nothing more to it.

I mean these kids can vote. How scary is that? And soon they will be the people leading our country. Thats should be even scarier. People receiving a worthless education, one where they are told exactly what to think, will run this country into the ground.

Theres a reason I homeschool my children, and this just seems to reinforce that. I dont want these libereal, communist bastards who run the education system to infect there innocent minds.

And dont even get me started on libereals...

By the way, I did some research and got some more personal info on this teacher and school. If anyone wants it, email me. I've already sent some nasty messages and have half a mind to go there and do something about it myself.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 20, 2007 4:15 PM

I'm just wondering when all of you moronic and drooling high school idiots will realize your quack of a teacher is trying to brainwash you. How about this - one of you kiddies ask her to cover the ADVERSE affects of illegal immigration on this society...you know....the wage suppression, stolen jobs, spreading of disease, identity theft, violent crime, abuse of social services and balkanization of our country. Go ahead, and see what your precious commie pig of a teacher says about that. After all, some of you have stated you have "open minds," so I challenge you - see what she says about THIS SIDE OF THE ISSUE, which she has conveniently not bothered to so far.

And today's dumbest statement from a future brainwashed commie piece of shit...

"And that argument that kids are learning about Frida Khalo and therefore they are supporting illegal immgration and shit? THAT IS BULLSHIT. They're taking A CLASS ABOUT SPANISH CULTURE!"

Now, someone tell me - what country is directly to our south? Spain? I think not. That would be Mexico, Einstein, which last time I checked, ISN'T SPAIN. Spain - country. Mexico - country. Spanish - language. Exercises on illegal immigration have JACK SHIT to do with SPANISH CULTURE. Got it? Evidently, you're unaware that there's a world of difference between Spanish culture and Mexican culture, particularly when it pertains to illegal immigration. Last time I checked...Spaniards weren't sneaking in here, you little fucktard. What you are learning isn't SPANISH CULTURE when you are taught to empathize with people who break our laws. It's nothing short of political indoctrination. Of course at your age, you're all too stupid and naive to realize this.

Good day. And kiss my ass.

Posted by: moonbat monitor at December 20, 2007 5:05 PM

Apparently you haven't been properly informed of the requirements of this project. All topics researched were required to be done from BOTH sides of the issue. Including articles found in the newspaper, online research, etc. Even down to the quotes each student put within their scrapbook and poster, both conservative and liberal views had to be researched.

Posted by: sajfd at December 20, 2007 8:08 PM

"the wage suppression, stolen jobs, spreading of disease, identity theft, violent crime, abuse of social services and balkanization of our country"

Much of the project was to research these negative effects that you are speaking of.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 20, 2007 8:11 PM

Apparently you haven't been properly informed of the requirements of this project. All topics researched were required to be done from BOTH sides of the issue. Including articles found in the newspaper, online research, etc. Even down to the quotes each student put within their scrapbook and poster, both conservative and liberal views had to be researched...

Is that so? Then why was it that NONE of that was in the article in the Columbus Dispatch?

Why was it that the only material sourced in Ms. Vierya's blog were pro-illegal immigration? A Day without a Mexican? Mary Full of Grace? Wetback? All movies sympathetic to the illegal alien...

So please let me know...what movies did she show that gave the opposing viewpoint. And yes...they are out there (I have named one...Border)...

Why did Ms. Vierya defend her use of this teaching program in the Dispatch as "teaching empathy"? Who exactly is she indicating that empathy should be for?

Now perhaps she left you to yourselves to come up with data against illegal immigration...but she certainly did a good frame job before she sent you out. And as a post on my site points out, some of what she told you was blatantly mis-represented...i.e., the amount of social security funds brought in by illegal aliens. But what she didn't tell any of you was that illegal aliens were only able to pay into that because of social security number THEFT...

I'd be happy to help Ms. Vierya come up with a more balanced and truthful study of the illegal alien issue. I live in San Diego...the heart of the illegal alien problem...

Posted by: Nigel at December 20, 2007 10:38 PM

Doesn't the "Frida" movie contain nudity?
That would make it inappropriate to show to a high school class.

Posted by: Adam at December 21, 2007 6:40 AM

Nigel-
I appreciate your efforts towards being fair about this project. You requested information regarding the other artists studied, because it seems the media has portrayed the spanish classrooms at OLHS very differently then they are in reality. First, the teacher stated that she does not place everything on her weblog, because that is there for the parents to get updated on what is going on currently in the class. However, a more detailed syllabus is given out at the beginning of the year with all of the content/curriculum for the students and parents. So that might help explain why the other artists were not listed on the weblog. Here is a list of some, but not all, of the other artists that were studied to provide the students with a better sense of spanish culture.
Pablo Picasso- a short documentary was watched
Joan Miro
Salvador Dali- parts of a short film produced by Dali were watched
Frida Kahlo- I would like to point out here that the "racy" scenes of the movie watched were fastforwarded through, and the television screen was covered, so students did NOT watch much of the innappropriate content that people have been concerned about
Diego Rivera- Included in the movie with Frida Kahlo
Diego Velazquez
Goya- parts of a film were studied
El Greco- film from spain was watched to explain the art
Fernando Bolero


Now of course more then just films were watched regarding these artists, but I figured you would assume that we studied their pieces of art and how they affected the culture of Spanish-speaking countries. Not all of the films listed here are watched in their entirety, but I hope this list gives you a better view of the diverse group of artists studied in this class.

Posted by: QRS at December 21, 2007 7:50 AM

Thank you QRS, I will attach an update including your clarification. It's the right thing to do.

However, I still hold firm on my position that making Frida Kahlo the main subject of a Spanish Art project each and every year is inappropriate material for high school kids. As Chef in South Park always tells the kids...there's a time and a place for everything...and it's called college.

Since Liberty High School is taxpayer funded, it is highly inappropriate for tax dollars to be spent studying a woman glorified not only for her art, but her deviant lifestyle. Right now you high school students may not understand, but in the future all of you will be having families of your own and paying taxes...and many of you will THEN understand. I maintain that it's not necessary for Frida Kahlo to be cut out of any art study, but rather have the focus of Spanish Art shifted each year to a different artist. To repeat the curriculum each year to focus on her is either indoctrinating or lazy.

And I noticed there was no response for my critique of the illegal alien project. I stand by my criticism of that since nobody has been able to defend it. The materials presented to the students on that project were clearly one-sided.

Posted by: Nigel at December 21, 2007 9:03 AM

Nigel-
Thank you for all of your responses back to me. I will soon get back to you on your questions about the illegal alien project, or maybe another student can do it for me, because there is a major English paper that I must write... and I don't exactly have time right now to answer all of your in depth questions for the time being.
However, I am in no way am trying to change your opinion regarding what is appropriate material for High School students to view. I realize opinions on this topic will vary from person to person and I don't believe any of my opinions will affect yours on this subject. However, I am here to give information about this OLHS classroom. I feel this project and others in the Spanish classroom have been skewed by the reports of the media. I think it is sad that so many people have based such strong opinions on incorrect information regarding this project. So, if you have any more questions about the material we study, I'd be glad to give you some information. And as soon as one of us can get back to you, we will address the illegal immigration project questions.

Posted by: QRS at December 21, 2007 12:51 PM

I find it funny that the asshat that posted her information and is crying about how nobody should expect anonymity on the internet is posting as anonymous.

You conservatives are so stupid.

Posted by: AnonymousAsshole at December 21, 2007 3:01 PM

I think this course should include roleplaying the lives of our citzen workers whose arenas of employment are taken over my low-paying illegals. Walk in their shoes as they can no longer support their families, lose their homes, take work at much lower pay.

But the Spanish teacher wouldn't be teaching that, would she? That would come under "American Studies."

Posted by: Anonymous at December 21, 2007 4:08 PM

"Is that so? Then why was it that NONE of that was in the article in the Columbus Dispatch?"

This is from a couple posts back, but OBVIOUSLY THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR RESEARCH EITHER AND IT WAS A BIASED ARTICLE. Maybe you all should research the facts, like as was the point of the project.

I think this is an interesting project. It is not forcing ideas on anyone so whoever is saying that needs to stop, you obviously have no idea. It was RESEARCH for BOTH sides to form your OWN opinion.
how is that wrong?

and MEXICO is part of SPANISH culture.
illegal immigration is a major issue for the 2008 election

so it is a good thing these high school students are completing this project, they will be informed about the topic enough to make the right choice.

You all should stop criticizing this Mrs. Vieyra, and wish for more teachers like her. Obviously our education system is not up to par...
And as Americans, we are so close minded.


And then take a step back and put a perspective on this. This is a HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT. You all are making mountains out of mole hills. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal.


And remember, this spanish teacher is supposedly a conservative so STOP CALLING HER A COMMUNIST! YOU all are the extremists!!

Posted by: alkjdsfl;kjalkjclkam,.ca at December 21, 2007 8:51 PM

oh and i don't see what Frida has to do with ANYTHING.
but you know whatever, just keep nit picking her for every single little thing!

Posted by: alkjdsfl;kjalkjclkam,.ca at December 21, 2007 8:55 PM

Maybe you all should research the facts, like as was the point of the project...

My blog post was the one that started this whole storm. It was linked at Michellemalkin.com and off it went...

And my posts have been factually accurate and researched with attribution. Unlike any of the comments made by you high school kids. Attribution is something I would have hoped your high school would have taught you by 10th grade, but apparently your school is too busy teaching you erroneous propaganda (like incorrect stats on Social Security contributions by illegal aliens). You'll have to wait until college I guess on how to source facts used to make an argument.

As far as the Columbus Dispatch article being biased...yes, I agree. The Columbus Dispatch has left real "journalism" long ago and has become a prime example of the liberal media. That article very clearly glorified the "empathy" angle...

But before you blame the Dispatch or us bloggers, keep in mind nobody would have known about this "project" had someone not contacted the paper first. Clearly someone wanted publicity for this "project" and they got it. But if you put yourself out to the media, you are now open to scrutiny. So don't whine about being criticized if you wanted the publicity in the first place.

You high school students are NOT "informed enough" by Ms. Vierya's indoctrination to make intelligent decisions about illegal immigration. Why? Because the course material you were given by the teacher was decidedly one-sided to create empathy for illegal aliens. Ms. Vierya said so herself in the article!

The reason we are making a big deal about this as a high school project is because you high school kids are the future of this country. And you are being brainwashed. You make this clear in your comment when you say:

And as Americans, we are so close minded.

Are you kidding me? Who taught you that? This country has more freedom of thought than any other in the history of the world. And someone has brainwashed you into thinking that Americans are closed-minded.

The very exchange we are having right now would likely be banned in half the countries in the world. Nobody is teaching you that. Your teacher didn't teach you about Mexico's immigration policies. For example, immigrants can buy property here. Heck, ILLEGAL ALIENS were able to buy property in this country until the sub-prime loan market fell apart (did your teacher instruct you on the havoc illegal aliens had on the mortgage market?). But in Mexico, you cannot legally own property unless you are a citizen. Further, their own southern border with Guatemala is heavily secured with the ARMED MEXICAN ARMY instructed to shoot on site anyone who dares cross illegally. Did your teacher teach you that? Because that would have been actually teaching you about what goes on in MEXICO instead of teaching you how oppressive and bad America is for not opening it's borders to illegal aliens.

And of course my brainwashed child...you don't see what is wrong with focusing on Frida Kahlo...because you are being taught that the pain of infidelity, the glory of lesbianism and the idealism of Communism can be wonderful inspiration for art. Yes, you are getting a perfectly indoctrinated education.

Posted by: Nigel at December 21, 2007 10:46 PM

"Apparently you haven't been properly informed of the requirements of this project. All topics researched were required to be done from BOTH sides of the issue. Including articles found in the newspaper, online research, etc. Even down to the quotes each student put within their scrapbook and poster, both conservative and liberal views had to be researched."

Which apparently, the Dispatch didn't mention a word of. So what you're saying is that the Dispatch chose to ignore this part of the exercise? Well by golly, if I was Ms. Vieyra, I'd be mighty pissed right now. How dare they misrepresent what she is trying to teach........

Or you could just be full of shit. Yeah...I'm leaning towards that. And if you're not, I would like some proof from you that this exercise did in fact cover the issues many have raised. If you do not or can't, it's safe to say we have proven that this teacher is indoctrinating her students. If you can, then there's no problem here. We'll all be waiting for this "proof."

On to the next one...

Someone stated that this is a study of Spanish speaking cultures. Fair enough. But this issue is much bigger than just spanish speaking cultures.(see: 9/11) Illegal immigrants come from all over the world, not just spanish speaking countries. Did anyone assume a Ukranian identity? Somalian? Russian? Brazilian? Saudi? After all, if she wanted to really tackle this issue, it'd only be fair that she present it properly. And it doesn't look like she did. To make it simple.....this issue has about as much to do with Spanish as it does with roadkill - nothing! A one legged, blind German that sneaks in here has the exact same effect on our soceity than an illegal immigrant that speaks spanish does. They'll both be stealing jobs, suppressing wages, living off the government or turning to crime. This is a political issue more than anything else, not just a "spanish culture issue."

Kick them all out, regardles of what langauge they speak. It can't be made any more clear than that.

Posted by: moonbat monitor at December 22, 2007 8:33 AM

I am taking spanish 5 at the moment and had to do this immigration project. I stayed up all night and put a ton of work into it, even though I thought the project was stupid and way too much busy work.
However, none of us students are stupid enough to just "eat up" information that is shown to us and is empathetic towards illegals. We are smart enough to recognize that there are major negative effects from immigration as well.
Before the project I was conservative in my beliefs on immigration, and now I am even more conservative in my beliefs. So don't assume that we are being "indoctrinated" and "brainwashed" because everyone can learn something different from any stupid project, even if it's not what the teacher wanted you to learn.
And another thing, how many high-school students do you think there are that truly buy into whatever their teachers say?
Honestly, we're not naive little bitches...

Posted by: blah blah blah at December 22, 2007 1:50 PM

To: Blah Blah Blah...

Good to see you have already formed critical thinking skills. Those will give you a great college experience...

As you can see from a post from one of your classmates, some of your classmates did are brainwashed. And you are being indoctrinated whether or not you choose to accept such indoctrination. It's the materials that you were given (by the school)to work with that is the proof.

I work with high school students EVERY DAY (for privacy reasons, I can't reveal what or where), so I am very aware of the differing levels kids can be at in accepting what teachers say or being influenced by what they are shown or taught. I am sure you recognized right away by the movies that you were shown regarding immigration that you were being fed a liberal agenda.

Kudos to you for doing the research that confirmed the position you had on immigration. I wish you well in your future studies...

Posted by: Nigel at December 23, 2007 9:39 AM

to blah blah blah.....

You're a bit off topic here.

If in fact you're saying that people weren't indoctrinated and you have proof of this with some sort of syllabus or work done that shows the views that those of us in the blogosphere presented, you need to show it. Until then, your teacher is nothing more than a fucking lowlife that is abusing her position and indoctrinating young, naive kids to see the world her way.

Like I said, if I'm wrong here.....show me the proof. I do however congratulate you on not being a dumb, brainwashed liberal.

Posted by: moonbat monitor at December 23, 2007 7:26 PM