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Carter receives instructions to throw a beanball at Elian Gonzalez.

Jimmie also said that Cheney is a disaster. True statement.

Figures a groupthink clone would show up to praise Carter.

This is not the first time that Carter has opposed torture.

Back in the late seventies he withdrew support from the Shah of Iran because the strongman probably did torture prisoners. So he was replaced by a fanatical theocracy that practiced even more brutal torture and executed 20,000 pro-Western Iranian liberals.

The most progressive Muslim country in the world became a medieval refuge for hatred in which women were beaten if they didn’t cover their bodies and they lost much of their educational and vocational rights. The country became an exporter of terrorism and of course made a completely unprovoked hostage taking of the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Way to go Jimmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No asshat. He is not denouncing "the USA". He is denouncing the criminal policies of the Bush administration.

Stop trying to hide behind the American flag.

You mean criminal policies like letting thousands of undocumented 'workers' in to the country?

Hey, Joe Citizen, newsflash...

The USA is not a police state (although Carter-approved countries like Chavez's Venezuela, Castro's Cuba, and Mugabe's Zimbabwe are).

You're not a brave dissident standing up to the Bushhitler Regime. You're a dork who's only striking a pose because you know no one you are in no danger, whatsoever, of being punished for opposing his government.

Unlike the people who have the misfortune of living in places whose leadership is embraced by Jimmy Carter.

It is sad that a President that was a total failure finds it necessary to find fault with others

Talk about the proverbial "pot calling the kettle black". If it weren't for Carter and Clinton, Bush would undoubtedly be dubbed the worst president ever of the USA. There never has been a dictator that Carter didn't warm up to.
Giving away the Panama Canal was one of his worst actions.
He's a religious socialist...both equally appaling!!

It is so sad that we in the USA cannot embrace the truth. We continue to be used by those who are blind. How much more can we continue to be blind? It is obvious that our economy is suffocating our home, regional and nation's environment with all those billions of dollars. What for? The Cheney’s gangs of friends that are benefiting from this War, not for the communities that are suffering from lack of funds in our schools and our cities that can't even afford to maintain our parks or streets. What more do we need to wake up? I happy to see a president who can use our legal rights to speak up. Our rights that have been disappearing since Cheney became the leader of this country (let us be honest who the president of this country is and who is the puppet), it is time to stand up and protect our constitution for once in our history.

Moonbat Reality: It is obvious that our economy is suffocating our home, regional and nation's environment with all those billions of dollars.

Real Reality: Stock market at record high, record low unemployment, air and water cleaner than it was 30 years ago.

Moonbat Reality: communities that are suffering from lack of funds in our schools

Real Reality: Education spending up 70% under Bush. The US spends more per student than any country in the world. States are going broke paying for the gold-plated pensions demanded by teachers.

Moonbat Reality: We can't even afford to maintain our parks or streets.

Real Reality: Pork barrel spending on infrastructure at all-time highs, including earmarks for bike paths and unnecessary museums.

Moonbat Reality:Our rights that have been disappearing since Cheney became the leader of this country

Real Reality: No moonbat has yet been able to name for me a single civil right I have lost under the Bush Administration.

Where do lefties get this persecution obsession? They're always blathering on about losing rights, being oppressed, the US is a police state, etc. They name their websites such things as "Democratic Underground." Is it rampant romanticism, the desire to see themselves on "the barricades," hair tousled by the breeze, in a Che-like pose, standing up to tyranny against impossible odds?

News flash: no one is oppressing you, or even paying attention to you. You're not revolutionaries, or even radicals. You're just silly kids (or superannuated kids who have failed to grow up) striking a pose. No one takes you seriously, nor should they, because you're living in a comic book version of reality.

But carry on. Adulthood is overrated; you're not missing that much.

You crazy neocons can't even tell the difference between the First Amendment right to freely criticize the government and denouncing America.

The facts are simple. Jimmy Carter said that Bush tortures people because... Bush tortures people.

To munco: I'm sorry no one has outlined the disastrous civil liberties raping that our esteemed leader has imposed on his people (us). So, let me outline how this president has shredded 6 out of the 10 Bill of Rights that were, until this president, guaranteed to every American.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, formerly the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, formerly the November 13, 2001 Military Presidential Order, states that "Except as provided in section 1005 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination."

Denying the writ of habeas corpus allows the Government to throw anybody in jail, indefinitely, for no reason.

Correction:


*To V the K, not munco.

Jimmy Carter is doing his best to re-write history and tear down this country in the hopes that he can yet 'save' his term in office from a terrible drubbing in the history books. GOOD LUCK !

Josh, the minor detail you overlooked is the phrase "Except as provided in section 1005 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005."

So what is section 1005 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, you ask?

Here's the section heading: SEC. 1005. PROCEDURES FOR STATUS REVIEW OF DETAINEES OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

Does that unbunch your panties at all? If you read the entire Act - which I highly recommend - you'll find that your quote merely says that aliens detained outside the US as enemy combatants may challenge their status in US courts only at a Combatant Status Review Tribunal and an appeals to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and ultimately the Supreme Court (i.e, they can't go venue shopping hither and yon).

Further, Constitutional rights (such as to a writ of habeas corpus) apply only to Americans and legal residents. The law does not deny aliens a right they used to have. They never had that right, and are not and never have been entitled to it. The law simply forecloses attempts to find a sympathetic Carter appointee somewhere who will extend Constitutional rights to those not entitled to them. Aliens detained overseas as enemy combatants by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal can only appeal to the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, and after that, the Supreme Court (as one detainee has already done in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld).

See? No cattle cars rumbling through the night.

First and only fact I know about this man. He is a fool.

Secondly, Carter knows torture, I entered the work force in 1975. He had lots of people screaming.

It was almost enough to make me quit work and go back and spend another seven years in high school.

Jay Guevara pwns Josh. Right, only foreigners are affected by any suspension of Habeas Corpus as formulated by the Bush administration. As an American citizen, it doesn't affect my rights at all.

If it were really as evil and dire as Josh paints it, then he and all of his paranoid kostard buddies would be rotting in a gulag somewhere instead of spewing their delusional hatred on the internet. Of course, in countries that moonbats like... Cuba, Venezuela... people really do rot in jail for opposing the government.

Can't happen? Ask Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri.

OK, this prize package has been held in custody while the legal wrangling on his status, which was always a bit ambiguous, goes on. Note, however, that

On June 11, 2007, in al-Marri v. Wright, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Military Commissions Act doesn't deny al-Marri his constitutional rights to challenge his accusers.[9] The court ruled that al-Marri must be released from military detention to either be freed or to be placed in US civilian detention where the federal government would have to charge him with crimes.

The poor baby didn't have sufficient bedding, and no reading material, apart from Terrorism for Dummies. Meanwhile, Daniel Pearl had nothing to read with, his head having been hacked off.

For your education, you should read the history of the Nazi U-saboteurs. FDR essentially ordered Francis Biddle to find an excuse to execute them, to make a point.

If only people like Josh cared as much about American lives as they do about protecting jihadists' right to kill us.

Besides which, nothing that was done at Club Gitmo remotely approaches the torturing Folsom Street Fair-type folk do to each other. It's really ironic that Andrew Sullivan whines about this.

Al-marri was declared an enemy combatant by Bush in 2003 and thrown into jail without charge until the Fourth Circuit of Appeals forced Bush to do so four years later.

It is gross to confuse "protecting jihadist' right to kill us" with protecting the Constitution. I just don't see what you have against standing a terrorist in front of an American judge.

And in any case, don't change the subject, unless you're tacitly admitting you fundamentally misapprehended the point of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, your original squawk.

And as for young al-Marri, I have no problem at all with standing in front of an American judge. Do you have a problem with standing him in front of a firing squad if he's convicted?

until the Fourth Circuit of Appeals forced Bush to do so four years later.
So wait, a Judge forced the President of the United States to do something? -- No President Bush followed the ruling of the Judge. Makes your little 'Dictatorship' and 'erosion of the constitution' squawking sound hollow right about now, right?

You mean this Jimmy Carter?

http://www.coxandforkum.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=carter

Iran is aided and comforted by Jimmy the Dhimmi's latest burblings.

Also, I neglected to mention that your poster boy for government oppression was detained in 2001, whereas the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 was not enacted until, well, figure it out. So it's risible to attribute al-Marri's situation to passage of the Act.

Let's recap the bidding. Your initial squawk upthread was "You crazy neocons can't even tell the difference between the First Amendment right to freely criticize the government and denouncing America."

So here's how al-Marri was (at least allegedly) planning on "freely criticizing the government and denouncing America:"

Al Marri was to hack into the US banking system, and "to wipe out balances and otherwise wreak havoc with banking records in order to damage the U.S. economy."

Investigators had found information about Hydrogen Cyanide on Al Marri's laptop... "The highly technical information found on al-Marri's laptop computer far exceeds the interests of a merely curious individual."

The left has odd criteria for choosing its heroes. "You want to kill me? Dude, you rule!"

Who iz this Jay Guevara? I vant his head on a platter. Do not return witout zit!!!!!!!

You'll have to get at the end of a long and unruly line, FN.

Dang it!!!!!!!!!!

You have to at least concede that al-Marri was tortured. His lawyers have pointed out that his cell's window is translucent rather than transparent!!!! By the Beard of Abraham, that is terrible!

...Gosh, I'm chilly, but I cant afford the high electric bill for heating. Does that mean I am torturing myself? I have to call a LAWYER.