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Ah, yes - Armistead Maupin, a homosexual activist and author read only by homosexuals and silly liberals, and a quote from Bill Schell, a Starbucks customer from London, Ontario, Canada, - a nobody from a country that hates us (US).

Screw Starbucks – their coffee really sucks anyhow – it’s the most bitter crap anyone ever tried to pass off as coffee. You want good coffee? Go to a Love’s Truck stop. Coffee is a third the price and infinitely better.

I stopped in for fast-food on the way through Plainview, TX yesterday morning, and the ‘Chick Fillet’ next to where I ate had on their changeable message sign: “I was blessed by God so that I may bless you”.

I’ll eat their chicken before I ever drink another drop of Starbuck’s camel piss.

I'm surprised Starbucks is this openly pro-atheist. I'm surprised they're promoting any kind of ideology at all. Shut up and make coffee!

What's also a bad is that these days people aren't shamed into stopping this sort of thing. More and more they have anti-Christian messages which are openly and purposely offensive, and they are happy about it.

Try having an openly offensive anti-Muslim message, an openly offensive anti-abortion message, an openly offensive racial message. Why do people think being anti-Christian is a good thing?

okay - everybody - go to starbucks, order four or five large quads of any brew and when they come with the offensive cups, say politely, "no thankful - i changed my other mind - these cups are offensive."

"The Way I See It:"

Looks like I need a new place to buy coffee. I didn't mind environmental messages about green-grown coffee and human rights. But when the coffee starts promoting homosexuality and trying to turn people away from God, it's time to search inside myself for the power to overcome...the desire to drink Starbucks.

I am proud to say that I have never been inside a Starbuck's. Never had a cup of their coffee.

I get my coffee where I buy my gas, and then shake some of that white powder in it....Yummy.

They don't put messages on the side of the cups to help me through the day.

Look, they do have the right to put that on their cups, right? Even though we disagree with the message? I mean, isn't the Conservative answer here to allow the market to do it's job? Don't buy there if you are offended! People are allowed to offend us, just not while acting under color of the Federal Government. Right?

Nanc, your little prank was especially childish. What could that possibly accomplish beyond pissing off a pimply teenager who's just working to scrape together the money for a car? It's not like choosing Starbucks out of his EXTREMELY narrow area of job oppotunity is somehow a political statement! Wow, talk about blows against the Empire, nanc

Didn't God command you to go out and convert your neighbor? If you practiced THAT part of your religion you wouldn't need to get so worked up over a coffee cup, since your christian culture would dominate. It's not like we can MAKE people agree with us.

Um, Ninja dude... was anyone here advocating that Starbuck's should be censored?

Then why the outrage? The fact that you label it as Moonbattery implies you feel it's out of order. So, what, you want something done or you don't care because it's insignificant? Which is it?

so Nixon Ninja, what is Star$$$$'s doing paying "a pimply teenager" a below poverty non-liveable wage? Then that makes Star$$$$'s a bunch of corporate greedy bastards exploiting the poor working class and YOU should be doing everything in your power to bring them down MAN!!!!! RAGE AGAINST THE ESPRESSO MACHINE! SCREW THOSE LATTE CAPITALIST PIGS!!!! STAR$$$$'S IS THE CARLYLE GROUP HALLIBURTON OF COFFEE MAN!!!! I think I'm gonna try Nanc's idea. It is the free market. and "offending" people is offending people unless they are those who can never be offended (the protected class) and those that should and need to be offened to advance MoonBattery

People like you are the problem, Bryherb, regardless of political affiliation.

I ama life-long Republican and a veteran of the US Sub Force. I was at sea on 9/11, I was steaming into the Gulf just after. I think I have at least earned the right to state my opinion.

Only not from you, Bryherb. Your hate has become so overpowering, your bloodlust so stirred that you can no longer even offer a Man a respectful hearing.

I think this is a non-issue. many of you disagree. That's fine, I don't ask that you agree wiith me. I only ask that you be fair.

but this is too much for the Byherbs of the world. That's not a message; that's a mental stool flung in the face of the world. And why? Because I didn't agree with his VERY EXACTING version of the world.

I expect an apology. that is, I invoke the normal mode of expressing a belief that an opponent will have the character to respond to Truth. In reality, I expect nothing of the kind.

As a republican with an interest in the future of this party I ask you all to consider this: beware of becoming, through your overzealousness, the very thing you hate.

I don't know what can be added. Either you recognize the glaring truth or you contine to smear my character. Bets, anyone?

Nixons Ninja
I don't believe a word you say. From your posts and ANGRY ACCUSEING TONE, I think you are trying to pull a fast one. As FREE American sitizens, we had a RIGHT to not patronize any business we don't like and also to let said businesses know why.

As an AMERICAN (never mind a veteran) you should know that.

Nixons Ninja
Are you saying that WE have NO RIGHT to protest what we find offencive? It sure sounds that way. As christians and straights, we have taken a lot of abuse for the past couple of decades simply because we ARE forgiving and tolerant. But we have run out of "cheeks to turn" and are now speaking up FOR OUR RIGHTS! As American citizens, we DO have rights, and if you REALLY ARE as you claim (It's so easy to be phony on the internet) you would understand and not encourage others to say "I'm sorry" because they DISAGREED with YOU!

There's one more thing you should paste in your memorie book: I don't give a DAMN if you were serveing on 9/11, I was DISABLED serving in the air force in '78, (BIG FAT HAIRY DEAL) I don't throw it out to to make myself into some kind of moral athority, so don't YOU try it either.

Double post. I thought the first didn't get through.

Starbucks has put a disclaimer on their web site that says the opinions put on the side of their cups are not necessarily their opinion. Then why the F is the message on the side of THEIR cups?
I am not going to stand in line to get a vanilla, almondjoy, mocha frappe, peppermint walnut latte coffe behind some dimwitted moron who is gripping about the cost of the war in Iraq where we are trying to kill those that would remove our heads from our necks or the cost of gas when the are paying $6.00 for a damn cup of something that looks like it should be made into soap.
Just like the morons who will pay $1.50 for a bottle of Evian water because it is soooooo good. It is water, for crips sake.

I think I've had two cups of Star$$$$$' coffee over the last 10 years or so. I remember one of the cups was so highly caffeineated (sp.?) that I was all jitters for the next 12 hours or so.

If you like good coffee, and don't want to pay $25 for a small cup of same (which will have you jumping around like a cocaine fiend for as much as one full day), try Boca Java (online; I'm sure you can figure out the URL).

Got a possible message for the Star$$$$$ weenies (and if this message-on-the-cup crap is not being done at the direction of the company's highest authorities, then why the hell are these messages on their cups?): "Hi! I'm a cuppa joe. That's all I am. You paid a small fortune to get me, so now, drink me. Don't look for cute, trendy messages on me. If you are politically motivated, get on the internet and surf to your heart's content. Meanwhile, enjoy your cuppa hot java, and leave your politics (and Moonbattery) at home."

Seems to me that the answer is simple...don't buy Starbucks coffee.

I don't really care what Nixon's Ninja's agenda is. Personally I think he wants us to accept something we don't believe in, and wants to make us feel like we have to buy their coffee for some sort of free market reasons.

I don't think Starbucks should be censored, but I have no problem at all with them losing their shirt and possibly going out of busines for a very dumb business decision.

If they think there's a market out there for anti-God propoganda coffee, then go for it. But my money is mine to spend where I want. Go ahead Starbucks, give your message. You're making your stand and showing the world what you stand for. But so am I.

retire05 - you do realize "evian" backwards, spells "naive"? and that two of these equal the cost of a gallon of gasoline in some parts of the country? and they complain about the price of gas! rich, i tell you - rich!

Guys, it's coffee.

I wouldn't call the sputum produced by Starbucks coffee. They burn their beans.

But that's just me...

This is nothing new-- way back in January, 2005 they had a cup that called for the undoing of the tax cuts, etc-- http://redmindbluestate.blogspot.com/2005/01/starbucks-touts-financial-prudence.html

Typical liberal feel-good nonsense--talking about financial prudence -on a $4 cup of coffee!

Then why the outrage? The fact that you label it as Moonbattery implies you feel it's out of order. So, what, you want something done or you don't care because it's insignificant? Which is it?

VH is making us aware of a message being put out by a business that he personally finds offensive. It is his perfect right to do so.

VH is not advocating any government censorship of the message, but letting his audience make up their own minds about how to respond to it.

Drinking coffee happens to be against my religion, so it isn't an issue for me. But I find nothing objectionable in what VH is doing.

The only person telling anyone they should shut up is you.

I don't have any 'agenda', I just don't think this is a big deal. And if you disagree with me that's fine, since I don't want anyone to accept any ideas beyond the one that this is a non-issue. Why are you all so threatened by that!??

KHam, I've dealt with you before and am aware of how you think. More specifically, I'm aware of how you REFUSE to think. You're just like BryHerb; you always accuse me of being some kind of shadow liberal because I urge restraint against your hysteria. Because you cannot read and understand a nuanced position, I suppose.

I don't care whether you believe me or not for the same reason I wouldn't mind if Howard Dean disbelieved me. You both have the same kind of self righteous, knee-jerk ANGER, whether a man is actually your enemy or not. In short, your respect is not worth having anyway.

In my very first post on this topic I said, "Look, they do have the right to put that on their cups, right? Even though we disagree with the message? I mean, isn't the Conservative answer here to allow the market to do it's job? Don't buy there if you are offended! People are allowed to offend us, just not while acting under color of the Federal Government. Right?"

Allow me to repeat that for the KHams of the world: "Don't buy there if you are offended!"

To which KHam replied, "I don't believe a word you say. From your posts and ANGRY ACCUSEING TONE, I think you are trying to pull a fast one. As FREE American sitizens, we had a RIGHT to not patronize any business we don't like and also to let said businesses know why."

What did I JUST SAY, KHam? Reading comprehension not your strong suit, is it? The ONLY REASON you hate me is because I refuse to hate homosexuals. My position was clear from the beginning; I hope you enjoyed your Two Minutes Hate!

For what it's worth, I think homosexuality is an abberant lifestyle. I do not recommed it for ANYone. But neither do I see panic and dismay as a proper response, either. I see the push for acceptance as an outcropping of Feminism, an ideology far, far more damaging than sexual abberation, which has been present in every society since the dawn of Time.

Of course, KHam will not admit he is in the wrong here. That requires maturity and humility, two character traits he has made abundantly clear he does not posess.

V the K;

"Didn't God command you to go out and convert your neighbor? If you practiced THAT part of your religion you wouldn't need to get so worked up over a coffee cup, since your christian culture would dominate. It's not like we can MAKE people agree with us."

How do you leap from that remark to histrionic accusations that I'm telling people to shut up!?!!?!? So what, urging people to practice the religion they pretend to defend is now viewed as inappropriate? If you're not following your God's commandments you're not Christians anyway, but let's not let a little hypocrisy spoil our good time!

I thought this was a Conservative site; I'm beginning to wonder if I am wrong. Your nasty tone against even the MILDEST criticism or the SLIGHTEST deviation in world view is disturbing. This is not the party of inflexible dogma, this is the party of Ideas! Of Leadership!

Do you now propose to lead by Insult and Humiliation? Cause I gotta warn you that platform may be less appealing to the country than you realize.

Nixon's Ninja, Please, Please I beg of you show me the specific hate I posted in my last response. I believe you have responded in the manner typical of Libruls (even though you consider yourself not) that when an "Evil Konservative" points out the flawed logic or hypocripsy, they default to the "Hate Speech" or "Racist" or "Nazi" or "Fascist" label. Were you actually aware that my capitalized text was a typical response that MoonBats spew about? Oh, and since you made us all aware of your service to our country during 9/11, Thanks a bunch. But be warned you are not going to get an absolute moral authority pass from any of us here. And you want an "apology'? True free speech means never having to say you're sorry. I guess you can enlist Sharpton or Jesse to extort an apology out of me or any of us. I'd say you owe me an apology. Is Nixon's Ninja a RINO?

A RINO, I don't know. But his postings suggest a thin skin and an intolerance for other points of view. I don't think there was anything nasty in my tone at all, but some people read nastiness automatically into anyone expressing disagreement with them.

I always found it a bit presumptuous for commenters to tell bloggers what they should and should not post.

>>>Of course, KHam will not admit he is in the wrong here. That requires maturity and humility, two character traits he has made abundantly clear he does not posess.

First, that is another example of the ACCUSATIONS I talked about.
Second, It is also an example of NAME CALLING.
Third, I have not INTENTIONALY accused you of anything except what you have presented yourself as and I have never resorted to name calling since THAT is imature.
Fourth, just HOW am I "in the wrong"? As I see it, I simply DISAGREED with you, but I DID NOT say that YOU were "wrong".
Fifth, I said that we had THE RIGHT to object to the messages Starbucks put on their cups. Didn't the MUSLIMS object to picture of an icecream swirl because it "kinda/sorta/slightly" looked like the word "Allah"? Don't WE have that same right of protest and petition that is mentioned IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION? (But of course, WE wouldn't threaten to burn the place down and kill everybody there, would we?)
Lastly, my name is "HARN", not "HAM", but I will let that go because it DOES look like "KHam".

By The Way, I don't drink coffie. I don't like the stuff no matter WHAT is written on the cup.

"What do you mean I can't smoke in here? Who ever heard of a coffeehouse where you can't smoke?"

My 76 year old father in a Starbucks

V the K got it right....thin skinned. It seems like some people have a right to their opinion while others have no right to NOT like that opinion.

N.N., please give us your guidebook on what we're allowed to think and what opinions we're allowed to have and what we're allowed to post. I'd hate to upset you by being out of step.

Nixons Ninja, We are *supposed* to be allowed to offend except under color of the U.S. Gov't, but it doesn't really work that way, i.e. Imus, and speech codes at college, and other such incidents. You still have to be politically correct in certain venues, free speech notwithstanding.
I agree with you tho, that if you don't like Starbucks' message cups then don't buy there. I am a mbr. of a group that meets there weekly (I've been trying to convince them to meet elsewhere but they like the coffee; I don't like any coffee anywhere). This week when we meet and I order tea, I will ask to check the cup first, to make sure they don't give me one that offends me.
You said: Homosexuality has been present in every society since the dawn of time. What?! Haven't you read the feminist literature about matriarchal societies ruling all the earth at the dawn of time, until the evil men came along and usurped their power?! Lol.

I've seen pro-Christian comments on those cups, too. I've seen quite a variety of little messages, and it never occured to me to be offended by any of them. The only thing that offends me about Starbucks is their prices. True moonbats do not drink their coffee because Starbucks is just another eeeevvviiilll corporation, and they're the first to call for the rest of us to drink coffee from little indie coffeeshops that usually have drinks that taste like drip coffee that has been microwaved. Blech. I love Starbucks because moonbats and religious nuts both hate the place.

The Starbucks cups have quite a range of opinions expressed. In addition to liberal tripe, they also have:

The Way I See It #250
In reality hell is not such an intention of God as it is an invention of man. God is love and people are precious. Authentic truth is not so much taught or learned as it is remembered. Somewhere in your pre-incarnate consciousness you were loved absolutely because you were. Loved absolutely, and in reality, you still are! Remember who you are!
-- Bishop Carlton Pearson
Author, speaker, spiritual leader and recording artist.

Seems pro-Christian just from the message that God is love and people are precious.

The Way I See It #253
A mature person is one who can say: My parents may have made some mistakes raising me, but they did the best they could: now it’s up to me.
-- Shannon Fry
Starbucks customer from Ann Arbor, Michigan.

Seems to be pro-personal responsibility, which is refreshing in this culture of "blame everyone, but especially my parents because nothing is MY fault". (I'm looking at YOU, Paris Hilton!)

The Way I See It #201
Complex problems defy simple solutions. One cannot end poverty by giving every poor person money, nor is the world cleaned up if everyone rode their bikes to work instead of driving. We need to commit to a total solution for our perceived problems. We need also remember that most solutions hurt people too. What or who we hurt and who or what we fix is always the tough part of the equation.
-- John Adamski
Starbucks customer from Corvallis, Oregon.

Common sense from a man in Oregon? I thought that place was filled with hippies who believe that all our ills can be solved if only the evil rich would give all of their money away! Suppose Oprah Winfrey gave away all $1.5 billion to the poor of America. How long would it be before it all got pissed away on cigarettes, lottery tickets, strip clubs and drugs?

The Way I See It #205
Many people search blindly for the “meaning of life.” What they don’t seem to understand is that life does not have meaning through mere existence or acquisition or fun. The meaning of life is inherent in the connections we make to others through honor and obligation.
-- Dr. Laura Schlessinger
International radio host and author. Her program is syndicated on more than 250 radio stations worldwide.

Dr. Laura -- an object of hatred for left-wing nuts everywhere.

Yeah, there are looney lefty comments on the cups, but there are other viewpoints represented, too. Probably because a wide range of people drink and enjoy Starbucks coffee. I sent a bunch of it last Christmas to some troops who requested it through AnySoldier.com.

If you would like to respond to a quote you've seen on a cup, you can submit your response here: http://www.starbucks.com/retail/thewayiseeit_comments.asp

Thanks, "Mmmm... Starbucks"