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Doesn't a woman have a right to do whatever she wants with a fetus? And if so, what's wrong with exercising her choice to alter the fetus's sexual orientation, if she so chooses.

And if an adult person (the only kind that counts to libleftdems) can mutilate their genitalia and wreck their bodies with hormones to create a crude anatomical facsimile of the opposite sex, why should that same person not have the right to alter their sexual orientation if a treatment exists?

My God, I really hate it when celebrated jocks with 8th grade educations manage to open their gaping maws. It's obvious Navratilova, Tatchell and that other nitwit from Glasgow never cracked a biology text, nor did they ever want to. Once again Politics usurps science.

So here's Bio 101 for those who slept through it: Animals DON'T have "sexuality" nor have they ever. They do what they do strictly on the basis of hormones and instinct. If these rams are humping other rams it's because they HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE not because they "choose". Sexuality is 24/7 ...not seasonal as mating is for creatures. So these rams aren't "homosexual" rather, they have a screw loose due to the hormonal chaos they experienced from their mothers' wombs.

However that it's quite fair to say that being queer is a form of brain damage just as autism is, so in light of that, we SHOULD be seeking to cure it or prevent it in any case.

There is a danger that extreme homophobic regimes may try to use these experimental results to change the orientation of gay people.

Methinks Tatchell hasn't quite thought this through. From his previous record of protest he has to be talking about islamic tehocracies such as Iran, which wouldn't bother with trying to "fix" gays. THey'll just keep right on killing them.

Jael, at least part of the so-called homosexual behaviour exhibited by sheep is dominance behaviour, and it's also partly down to environmental stress caused by what - to the sheep - feels like overpopulation. It isn't normal. It certainly isn't a preference since sheep don't have such things, but it isn't entirely down to brain damage as you've said. Hormonal imbalances can be caused by any number of things that have nothing to do with the brain, though the brain does end up being affected by the changes.

Honestly.
I have to say that if the treatment exists, good for everyone.

However, it should not be forced. People should have choices in life. I, personally, am Gay. (Oh no, I have opened pandora's box.) I will never reproduce, so I defy nature. I am gay, I defy religion.

However, it is not due to brain damage, nor to rebellion. I merely prefer men over women. It is not a crime to do so.

If one such as myself seeks that treatment, great. If not, it should not be forced upon us by anyone else. I believe everyone can agree with that.

Furthermore, "Brain damage" is nowhere near a proper assessment. By having brain damage, it means that you are either delayed mentally or physically. I am neither. That is not only offensive to gays, but to people in general. I would seriously think that you would be able to consider a better word.

But, then again, if you are this closeminded to begin with, what will you be without your harsh wordage.

This is just.. pathetic.

Whoa boys. Your self-righteousness does not become you.

First, "archy" brain damage can be due to hormonal imbalance and environmental stress. It's not necessarily genetic. I don't believe I wrote that it WAS entirely genetic did I? No. Brain damage might be a broad term but it is apt from a scientific perspective. It can be acquired in utero or after birth. And long before YOU posted about dominance behavior among animals, I posted about that very thing much earlier, so please, don't think you can teach me about mammalian behavior. My degrees are in biology and I can tell that yours are not.

Secondly, Mr. "gay guy", whether you were damaged in utero or once out in the world...is subject to further analysis, but I wouldn't expect a truthful self-assessment from you, since you are the affected individual in this case and therefore are grossly biased. Brain damage? Yep. Something's awry with your hard wiring and later on you got reinforcement which further cemented your decision to "go with it". I don't care if that insults you, nor does that make me feel "guilt" in any way. Facts are facts. It's been long known that homosexuality is abnormal and long suspected that a combination of genetic/environmental and pyschological factors contribute to the ultimate "choice". I'm quite confident that future scientific studies will validate this and in fact they largely have already.

Whoa boys. Your self-righteousness does not become you.

First, "archy" brain damage can be due to hormonal imbalance and environmental stress. It's not necessarily genetic. I don't believe I wrote that it WAS entirely genetic did I? No. Brain damage might be a broad term but it is apt from a scientific perspective. It can be acquired in utero or after birth. And long before YOU posted about dominance behavior among animals, I posted about that very thing much earlier, so please, don't think you can teach me about mammalian behavior. My degrees are in biology and I can tell that yours are not.

Secondly, Mr. "gay guy", whether you were damaged in utero or once out in the world...is subject to further analysis, but I wouldn't expect a truthful self-assessment from you, since you are the affected individual in this case and therefore are grossly biased. Brain damage? Yep. Something's awry with your hard wiring and later on you got reinforcement which further cemented your decision to "go with it". I don't care if that insults you, nor does that make me feel "guilt" in any way. Facts are facts. It's been long known that homosexuality is abnormal and long suspected that a combination of genetic/environmental and pyschological factors contribute to the ultimate "choice". I'm quite confident that future scientific studies will validate this and in fact they largely have already.

It sounds like science has proven that a homosexual is a freak occurance of nature like any other disease and can be cured. Now stomp your wittle feet and call me a homophobe.

jael?

that beared repeating.

For all you hopeful, homophobic breeders:

The article is about hormonal changes in SHEEP.

Honestly, did you just scan the article with your pompous, self-righteous little brains and come to the conclusion that homosexuality was curable?

And to those of you who make the ASSUMPTIONS that you know exactly what's going on in all humans because you took BIO 101, go somewhere else. Apparently, you're just as inept and small-minded (and I mean that literally) as the article scanners.

And RAGNAROK, my chosen name here is in response to yours. I read your comments then saw the name under which this crap was posted and just rolled my eyes and LOL'd.

JAEL, double posting someone elses thoughts makes you look like a weak, simple-minded idiot. Following it up with your "wittle" comment just confirms it.

Why does Google pick up this crap? All you close-minded freaks are awful, horrible people. You right wing weirdos MAKE our case for the right to choose.

Ummm, it was the article that brought human homosexuality into this. Also, the site is sometimes slow to post comments, and people hit submit twice.

Look, sheep have a bad enough reputation without being called "gay", give them a break!
(Singing) "All we ask is: 'give fleece a chance'!"

Well of course they are going to scream homophobia-that's the biggest weapon those who practice open homosexuality have to mainstream it (ie: ram it down everyone else's throat).

i'd really like to know where they found dr. doolittle...who else would understand sheep talk?

I love reading this crazy shit. I especially love reading the insane homophobic rantings of assholes who tout their degrees ("I HAVE A DEGREE IN BIOLOGY!") while proving just how useless their education is. I would ask for my money back if I were you.

You think it's a commonly accepted idea that homosexuality is abnormal? Where the fuck have you idiots been sticking your heads for the past century? You are as ignorant and pathetic as those suicide-bombing Muslims who have their own heads stuck in the 15th century. Did you know you will get 72 virgins if you kill yourself now? Do us all a favor, eh?

Okay, does anyone here FEAR homosexuals?

You see, Dracula, that's what homophobia actually means. It doesn't mean hate, intolerance, or non-acceptace of homosexuals.

Further, the reasons homosexuality was removed from the DSM were hardly based on science. It was removed because of politics from people like you who demand affirmation.

Now, as for being tolerant and accepting, perhaps you should practice what you preach, eh?

ROFL: It's a waste of time to argue or try to educate these assholes. We are a bunch of dipshits who just love to wallow in our ignorance. Notice how we use the idiom "ram it down our throats!" We really do want it. We want to suck cock and secretly we do it. A lot. We also take it up the ass and LOVE IT! But we have a job to do. Our job is being giant puss-dripping sores on the body politic in support of the Republican anti-American, anti-human agenda. So we have to act like pathetic losers. We still give good head though. Or so we think.

Steve, Homophobia does not mean "fear of homosexuals." It means "fear of homosexuality." Can you wrap your little sphincter of a mind around the difference? Your negative reactions to any idea of sex between men are due to your ignorant fears that you might like it.
And you probably would.
You probably do.
How scary is that?

As for demanding affirmation... I don't give a fuck about affirmation from you. You can kiss my intolerant ass! No tongue though. I'm chafing.

Dracula,

What's the word for "fear of moving out of your mom's basement and communicating with real people"?