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there is no way a bill bringing it back will make it through Congress before circumstances change so that a draft would actually be necessary

Of course, if policy was determined by the supporters of this website, a draft would be the order of day. Few people would voluntarily die in wars on the other side of the globe, against countries that pose no direct threat whatsoever. Only a draft would ensure that an adequate number of America's children be forcefully sent to the fronts of myriad infidel countries.

If a sundry GOP war monger called for reinstituting the draft, this website would champion the cause. And if Rangel objected, this website would take him to task.

Calling BS on Thomas as well.

Find one comment made by the Webmaster or a poster here calling for the reinstatement of the draft, and post a link to it.

Anyone who supports conscription is a belligerent authoritarian, completely undeserving of the fruits of liberty once cherished by the American right. It is their children who should be sacrificed first.

Metalgarth, it's clearly implied that the author would support a draft for the most tenuous of reasons. He's called for aggression against numerous "enemies" and lambastes anyone who advocates scaling back the US war machine.

Just ask him. Webmaster, do you oppose the draft on moral grounds? (he'll say 'no').

Follow up: if actually fighting the wars you've called for, wars against North Korea, Iran, Iraq, etc., required a reinstatement of the draft, would you support it?

wonder who all the "conscientious objectors" would be?

Well nanc, if you actually had the balls to come to my house and try to conscript my children into fighting in one of your bullshit wars, I'd "conscientiously object" by putting a bullet through your skull.

Easy there, big boy...take a few deep breaths...

Metalgarth, it's clearly implied that the author would support a draft for the most tenuous of reasons.

Where might I ask?... oh yeah that's right NOWHERE!

btw... no one is going to 'conscript your children' Our army is %100 VOLUNTEER and %100 comprised of adults who resent being called 'children' by sanctimonious liberals on message boards.

(actual percentage of that may vary, but I'm guessing it is close to 98% or higher)

some people are soooooooo touchy.

in the first place, thomas - i don't go where i'm not invited therefore you'd have no reason to shoot me.

we all know those who objected to the draft all those years ago by leaving the country and various other reasons - they were u.s. hating, commie, liberal leftists!

and when our veterans came back from vietnam it was the same who shunned and spat on them.

our family loves this country. as for balls, my husband is keeper of the balls at our house.

you are an immature little brat! remember this, conservatives are the ones with most of the guns and i suspect you'll call on one one day before all is said and done.

locked and loaded.

Narc, I could give 2 shits about your conservative family. Promoting conscription isn't patriotic; it's cowardly, autocratic, and anti-American. The Founders regarded conscription as the antithesis of liberty. Genuine threats to America's liberty will always be met with a sweeping, voluntary response.

And again, if you have any question about the lengths to which draft opponents will go to defend their lives, families, and property, please try to conscript my children. I'm no meathead conservative, but I've got plenty of guns and I know how to use them.

If the abominable draft ever does come back, I pray that your children are the first ones plucked from their homes and shipped straight to the front lines.

if the abominable draft ever comes back, it will be because the left is using a posturous move to put the scare into the rest of us. we're not scared. and you really should watch your nasty mouth - it's a sign of an extreme leftist!

i would not want my son drafted, but i know he'd willingly serve if and when the time comes. i won't like it.

a foul mouth is the feebleminded attempt at communication - take it up with mr. bojangles!

Metalgarth, it's clearly implied that the author would support a draft for the most tenuous of reasons.

What a crock. Care to provide something akin to evidence?

He's called for aggression against numerous "enemies" and lambastes anyone who advocates scaling back the US war machine.

Not wanting the US military forces cut further from where they are is not the same thing as supporting a draft army you moron. Besides, conscript armies DON'T WORK. We're not fighting massive wars of attrition where you could see a battle involving 10 or more divisions. An All Volunteer Army is what we've had since 1973 and its worked wonderfully. We've even trimmed down the Heavy Mechanized Divisions into the more lean Brigade Combat Team as the main maneuver component.

The idea that we're going to all of a sudden dump Force Transformation, something the Pentagon has been chasing for 20 odd years, for a draft army is ridiculous to say the least.

The Rangel angle has nothing to do with winning or necessity. It has to do with reliving the glory days of the Vietnam war protests. What better way to turn the great unwashed masses against the war? Dig up that perennial bogeyman the DRAFT! Rangel has been calling for the draft since GWB got into office, he needs the draft to justify his belief that only the poor, uneducated booger eatin morons join the service. This will not get any traction as Mizz Nancy is already putting the kabash on it. Cheap parlour tricks, get used to it. There are plenty more to come.

In Deut 20:5-8 is of interest. Any man who'd just purchased a home, land or was newly married was not to go into battle. Also...anyone who didn't want to fight was excused...in other words, there was no "draft". The Hebrews didn't want anyone who wasn't gung-ho, (and frankly they didn't need them). In multiple places throughout the OT, only men 20 yrs. of age or older were allowed to fight.

Deut 20:8
And the officers shall speak further to the people, and they shall say, What man is there that is fearful and fainthearted? let him go and return unto his house, lest his brethren's heart faint as well as his heart.

Once again, I ask:

Webmaster, do you oppose the draft on moral grounds? (he'll say 'no').

Follow up: if actually fighting the wars you've called for, wars against North Korea, Iran, Iraq, etc., required a reinstatement of the draft, would you support it?

Thomas, you're right about one thing: I don't have any moral objections to a necessary draft. Fortunately a draft is not necessary, as most seem to agree. I do have moral objections to demagogues exploiting a potential draft to undermine the war effort. I also object to people's failure to acknowledge the debt they owe to this country for the privilege of living here.

When did I call for starting any wars? Iran is already at war with us and has been for decades.

You libs are so full of crap. No one wants the draft here. Your buddy Rangel is the one proposing it, not us. Stop showing off.

And another thing...

"if you actually had the balls to come to my house"...blah blah blah...

What are you, in junior high? You feel like a big man making those kinds of threats on the internet? Grow the fuck up.