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March 13, 2006
Solution Found to Fred Phelps
Good news: a solution has been found to the bizarre cult known as the Westboro Baptist Church, which is led by a human cartoon named Fred Phelps.
As readers may recall, Phelps' phony "church" is actually a cult run out of his basement. Following links from his website God Hates America is like wandering the halls of an asylum for the spiritually insane. Watch where you click or you might find yourself watching a truly appalling video called Smell the Brimstone. Phelps pushes his obnoxious lunacy so far over the edge that there are actually a few laughs to be had as he hurls insults at Ronald Reagan and the Pope and rails breathlessly about God's cosmic hatred of homosexuals and the USA.
However, there are places where his sick brand of humor is not at all appreciated. First among them are the funerals of fallen American soldiers, which his followers travel across the country to crash, wagging placards with messages like "God hates fags" and "fag vets."
"This nation is poised to trash the first amendment just to stop my preaching," Phelps boasts. "I'm kind of honored."
But the solution does not involve any government coercion. It's a volunteer effort by bikers who call themselves the Patriot Guard Riders. They hold up flags and tarps at funerals under siege by Phelps' cultists so that mourners don't have to see the tasteless placards. There are about 100 kooks in Phelps' "congregation." The Patriot Guard Riders have gathered 16,000 members in just a few months.
Phelps' crew is so outrageous that some believe the whole thing is a put-on to make conservatives look like idiots. But just because he calls himself a Baptist is no reason to mistake Phelps for a conservative. According to Homocon:
Fred Phelps, registered Democrat, organizer of Democratic activities and fund-raiser for Al Gore and Bill Clinton, also criticized the invasion of Iraq, sent a warm letter to Saddam Hussein full of compliments for his regime while asking for (and receiving) permission to send protesters against the coming Iraq invasion, claimed that the U.S. deserved September 11th (and that London deserved the recent bombings), and praised Castro for his leadership and moral stance against homosexuality.
Despite its comical excesses, Phelps' campaign against gays, America, the war in Iraq, and common decency is probably on the level. The motivation behind it may have less to do with politics than Phelps' more personal issues. As Mark Potok, who tracks hate crimes at the Southern Poverty Law Center, points out:
This man probably thinks more about gay sex than any other person in the United States of America and one can only guess at what that means.
At least Phelps has some good advice for fellow antiwar protestor Cindy Sheehan:
Nix the show-boating and grandstanding for the media.
Hat tip: Wiggins

Posted by Van Helsing at March 13, 2006 9:17 AM
Comments
Get that hat off of his head. He doesn't deserve to wear it.
Posted by: bigwhitehat at March 13, 2006 9:51 AM
Good move for denouncing this cretin.
Now how is the main stream left dealing with Howard Dean?
Posted by: Doug at March 13, 2006 12:36 PM
Wait, the guy is a democrat? And for years I've had lefties taunting me for his existence and being so "right wing". Bastards!
Remember the SE asian tsunami? Apparently that was god's punishment on Sweden for being gay. Sweden's largest natural disaster (seriously; more swedes died in that event than any other natural disaster in swedish history and they were the second largest group pf fatalities after the natives) and all the man can think about is screaming his own personal psychosis across the web.
Now that I think about it he fits right in with the democrats.
Posted by: Archonix at March 13, 2006 12:37 PM
This guy is not just a whack job, he's criminally insane and should be locked up to protect the public.
Posted by: heather at March 13, 2006 3:40 PM
Something like 8 or 9 of his 11 children are lawyers. From what I've read they are trying to stir up enough bad will to actually get attacked and then sue for damages. I'm wondering if using the defense of "fighting words" would allow someone to pop one of these asses in the mouth.
Posted by: Brass at March 13, 2006 3:47 PM
Is it just me, or does this guy look an awful lot like Tom Fox?
Posted by: Evil_White_American at March 13, 2006 9:50 PM
Hey, its the guy from the Poltergeist movies!
Posted by: phil at March 14, 2006 3:25 AM
I’m posting this so lots of people will get to read it. I didn’t write it.
This was posted on a Fred Phelps thread on Fark a few weeks ago. It really explains why Fred Phelps does what he does. Apologies to the submitter, but I don't remember his/her name.
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Fred Phelps does not believe what he is doing. This is a scam.
It's a business. They travel the country, set up websites telling you exactly when they'll be there, and using the most inflammatory statements all over the place, just to get someone to violate their rights for profit. Then they sue the military, the police force that was to protect them, and everyone that is around them for money. This is a sham, and it is a trap to get people sued. Every member of his family is an attorney. Phelps does not break the law. What he does is try to make you break the law by trying to punch your sensibilities about everything you hold dear, and then sue you and everyone municipality around him to the max.
This is a scam.
Whether he believes his posters or not is irrelevant.
He's using this as a moneymaking scheme.
Lay one finger on him, do one thing that violates him, and he will sue you, and more importantly, the city, the police department, the US Military, and any private property owner he happens to be standing on to make money off of it.
Let's look at the ways he's trying to get you up in a tizzy to violate his civil rights for profit:
-He says G-d Hates F-gs, G-d hates the US Govt., that G-d hates the US Military, G-d Hates you, and G-d justifies the killing of others.
Phelps knows that saying 'G-d' and 'Hate' in the same sentence gets people worked up. He knows that. He knows that people have a knee jerk reaction to that.
-He says that the US Govt. and the United States are evil.
This is another hot button with people who love their country. It is intentional. It is designed to make you take a swing at him. He wants $50,000 from you. He wants a Powerball winner to swing at him so he gets 100 million dollars. It's that simple.
-He goes after homosexuals, he goes after people who are making sacrifices. Phelps intentionally targets people that are being victimized, or good people doing their jobs to create more outrage. He kicks people when they're down. He does that so someone will come up and defend them. Then he will sue you.
-His boards are laminated on hardwood, because he pulls them out of trucks at least five times a week. He also puts them in bright colors for attention, and makes absolutely sure that you can read them at all time. He's phishing you. Everyone must know that.
The most telling tale about all of Phelp's behavior is the schedule he keeps, and the company he keeps as well. The parties sometimes split up and go to two separate state funerals to maximize the profitability of them. There are, at maximum, twelve members to the party. They never stay more than thirty minutes (I assume they realize that someone will do something to them the MOMENT they come out of the vans, and really, after that, they get their camera shots to cause the outrage for the next stop, and then they move on) to maximize their profits, because time is money, and really, they're not interested in the message, because they're just interested in the lawsuit.
See? They don't believe this stuff. If they did, they wouldn't have come to Coretta Scott King's funeral. Because in their doctrine, they don't believe that G-d hates black people who tried to promote Christianity. So why were they there? They were there to make a buck when someone slipped up. They were there to petition the police department for a right to protest, and if they didn't get it, take them to court over it.
Basically, Phelps is playing the Ken Lay, Karl Rove, "Smartest Man in the Room" game where he is willing to do anything (if it be lying or stealing, or telling you God hates you) to make himself rich and powerful. This is his scheme, and admittedly, it's clever, but just downright evil to promote so much hatred in the world.
Tell all your friends about this.
This man is a con artist, and he's not a man of religion whatsoever.
After all, he makes everyone around him a lawyer.
That should tell you right now he is not anything.
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How do I know that Fred Phelps is suing people? I can tell you I just have too much experience around him. I am a journalist in Nashville, TN, and work at a television station that works the Ft. Campbell area. As a television photographer and journalist, I have been trained in all of the rules of private property, verbal conversation, what is legal and what is not legal, etc. (what you can and cannot say, what you can get away with). Honestly, in the last few months, I have seen waaay too much of Mr. Phelps and his crew. Since the war began, I believe they think this is the moneymaking source of a lifetime.
So how am I sure? After the third run in, and not one slip, not one piece of paperwork out of line, I knew something was fishy. My newsman skepticism left me with the idea later that something was more phishy than fishy.
I will tell you where I got this truth about Phelps. I looked him in the eye. I saw that he was way too calm and collected for what he looked like in the media. I noticed that he never made personal statements against a person, which is verbal assault, and an out against a lawsuit. Also, for a religious fanatic, a group of people who pride themselves on personal attacks, he was running a protest so terribly by the books that I was impressed by it. He will not bait a person, ever. He will not make personal attacks. He will make blanket statements. He will look at a person in the crowd that he thinks is gay, walk over to his stack of signs, pull out the appropriate, well designed, easily read, laminated bright board, and hold it up and loudly proclaim that "gays are going to hell" or some such nonsense, and make eye contact, but he will never cross the line of telling that person that they're going to hell. That would be the part that would screw up the lawsuit. He just wants to get them after him, but wants to appear utterly blameless for damages.
They run too tight of a ship to slip up, and at that point, I realized that the objective of the group was not anything religious at all. Someone told me along the way that they were all turned into lawyers after he got disbarred. After that, the stench was just too intense for me. He makes money off of this. He does this so much he has everyone around him do the legal legwork so he doesn't have to pay anyone else.
The last time confirmed everything I suspected about them.
A few weeks later, I saw them again (they LOVE to come to big name funerals) and after I saw the laminated signs change for the audience, I knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
His 'crew' isn't a 'church' as you and I would know. The 'church' are more of a motley crew of family members. Some of them are six year old children that are doing what they're told. I have spoken to them, and they have a lawyers sensibility on them on how they speak to the public. They never make personal attacks. They never verbally assault anyone. For a group of people that are accusing damn near every group of people around them for going to hell, wouldn't that seem odd to you? Do you know any religious fanatics that don't make personal attacks? I don't.
They also don't stick around after the cameras roll. They have an itinerary like a semi truck driver. For them to get cleared for all of these press event protests they're doing, then they have to have someone at home doing all of the setup. For you to get the press clearances by the prescribed times? That's a lot of professional legwork. I should know, I've coordinated a newsrooms credentials when the President comes to town, and that's a lot of phone calls and faxes.
They probably file a load of civil rights violation lawsuits. If a police department looks them up and says, "we're denying your protest right," BOOYah. They just got to sue a police department for the very thing that Americans can't stand, rights violation. I am assuming that this is where they get almost all of their money.
See my previous post. Their beliefs are so riddled with inconsistency. The 'real inconsistency' is that every position that contradicts every other of their beliefs is designed to maximize the number of people that they offend. You cannot be saved to them. You are evil in their beliefs, no matter who you are, and God will punish you like the evil gays/soldiers/innocent people/people who love America/people who are black/everyone else we can think of.
Here's the proof. Who in the world makes a poster that says, "Thank God for IEDs" (Improvised Explosive Devices, aka Roadside Bombs). They are saying God is with the terrorists. Then they say God hates you. And homosexuals. Then when they see you looking patriotic with your American flag shirt, they point the sign at you and say, "Americans are going to hell for supporting this country!" and look you in the eye. NOTICE THOUGH, they never say, "You're going to hell." (That would give a judge an out to deny them their claim.)
Posted by: JC at March 23, 2006 6:02 PM

