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March 14, 2006

Autum Ashante: How to Bid for a Harvard Scholarship at Age 7

Nothing horrifies like the corruption of a child's innocence — and nothing corrupts like moonbattery. A case in point is little Autum (sic) Ashante, who is being praised as a prodigy, having been taught to recite bitter racist diatribes that she supposedly wrote herself.

At a recent performance at a school in Peekskill, New York, Autum demanded that white kids stay seated while black kids stand and recite "The Black Children's Pledge" (popularized by the homicidally racist Black Panthers in the Sixties) before she launched into a poem entitled "White Nationalism Put U In Bondage." Here's a sample:

Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse. They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers. They took the black women, with the black man weak. Made to watch as they changed the paradigm of our village.

I can let it go that I'm being called a "vampire" for being Caucasian, but the suggestion that I might be stupid enough to believe a 7-year-old uses words like "remorse" and "paradigm" is truly insulting.

Batin Ashante, her father and the probable author of the nasty doggerel she was trained to recite, is by some strange coincidence a member of the Nation of Islam. Displaying the astonishing hypocrisy characteristic of the Left, he called district officials "racist crackers," apparently for not being sufficiently appreciative of his flesh and blood marionette's contributions to racial harmony.

Here's what the little darling was programmed to say about Caucasians:

All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils. I feel they're devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa.

Her father denies teaching her hatred. Oh, and he also denies writing the poetry.

Hat tips: Byron, Lucianne.com

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Autum Ashante, pint-sized racist demagogue.

Posted by Van Helsing at March 14, 2006 4:22 PM

Comments

Screw her. If she feels that her family should still be in Africa, why don't they move? I mean Africa is in MUCH better shape than the US.

I hear they have running water in almost every refugee camp now.

Posted by: Jason at March 14, 2006 4:43 PM

I'll bet she got praised by the left-wing nutjobs for that.

Typical black diatribe. Nothing is ever their fault, it's always the fault of whitey.

Posted by: Lorenzo D at March 14, 2006 5:12 PM

If they hate America, and love Africa... well, no one's making them stay here.

Posted by: V the K at March 14, 2006 6:49 PM

I remember in history class reading about a "back to Africa" movement in the mid to late 1800's, trying to relocate the former slaves back to their homeland. I think they set up a city or something over there. Never amounted to much. They were going to pay their way over and everything.

If they wouldn't go back then, they're not going to go back now. Not now that the gravy train is running full steam.

Posted by: Thinking Human at March 14, 2006 7:05 PM

This little girl and her family should be exterminated...

Posted by: Fuzzlenutter at March 14, 2006 7:16 PM

No, they shouldn't.

Or to put it another way: exterminator, gas theyself.

Posted by: Archonix at March 14, 2006 7:34 PM

-Thinking Human

Yeah a lor were moved to Africa to form Liberia. And we all know how well that turned out...

Posted by: Jason at March 14, 2006 8:00 PM

Liberia! That's the name! Thanks for reminding me. I knew it was something like freedom or liberty...

Yes that country has turned out wonderfully. But most African countries do.

Posted by: Thinking Human at March 14, 2006 9:37 PM

Ah, I see she has a bright future ahead working for the NAACP.

Posted by: Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds at March 14, 2006 9:38 PM

This is the end result of the Johnsonian "Great Society."


Somehow it's the fault of ALL white people. Did anyone ever contemplate how RACIST that is?? Of course not.


So tens of millions of poor white kids, many from rural, underpriviledged areas of the US have paid the price for the ultra rich man's guilt--in the form of affirmative action.


I was all for affirmmative action when I thought it meant making an even playing field for minorities who were geniunely discriminated against.


What it turned into is a "you owe me cause I'm ________ fill in the blank mentality that was so racist in it's concept it wouldn't have held water in any court of law. EXCEPT that those being discrimated against were white--no matter where they came from, rich or poor.


One result of this is that my husband, with a masters degree was repeatedly turned down for job offers by blacks, and other minorities, with a high school for jobs they weren't qualified to hold. This happened all the time in the 70's and 80's and is still going strong to this day.

Do you ever wonder why the "government" is so inept? The largest employer of............


AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!

**at this point I don't really care who may think I'm racist. I know I'm not, I'm telling the truth.

Posted by: suzie at March 14, 2006 10:12 PM

CORRECTION:

One result of this is that my husband, with a masters degree, was repeatedly turned down for job offers in favor of blacks, and other minorities, with a high school diploma. This was for jobs they weren't qualified to hold given their educational level. Not to worry--affirmative action was their key to any job they wanted! This happened all the time in the 70's and 80's and is still going strong to this day.

Posted by: suzie at March 14, 2006 10:17 PM

What do you bet that Yale goes after her with a scholarship long before Harvard. After all, they've been pretty busy collecting hatemongers lately.

Seems to me she could skip college altogher and accept a teaching position at a school in Colorado.

Posted by: Mike's America at March 15, 2006 12:11 AM

Do you REALLY want to know what's going on with this little girl and the rest of black America?

Shelby Steele explains it all

Posted by: Doug at March 15, 2006 5:15 AM

to hell with that little b****. This is all her parents, they're bigots, and they're brainwashing this kid to be the same.

How pathetic.

Posted by: moonbat monitor at March 15, 2006 9:45 AM

Did it ever occur to any of YOU RACISTS on this site that the truth hurts.. you are in every way, shape, and form all of the vampires and bigots that she called you. Look at yourselves calling a 7 yr. old a b**ch! If that isn't racist nothing is. All of you can eat a fat d**k!!!!!

Posted by: The Truth at March 15, 2006 3:06 PM

***CORRECTION***

A FAT BLACK D**CK!!!!

Posted by: The Truth at March 15, 2006 3:11 PM

to the person who called her a little black b...ur lucky ur on line....i'd make u my bitch

Posted by: racism still exist at March 15, 2006 3:15 PM

fuck all yall crackers that say shit, off line yall scared and call the cops, yall are just a bunch of pussy's...fuck you and ur families

Posted by: fuck all yall at March 15, 2006 3:16 PM

Wow! The truth hurts doesnt it?

My hats off to Ms.Ashante, someone had to teach her the truth, todays schools only teach HIS-STORY(Caucasian)not OUR HISTORY!

Posted by: African American Conservative at March 15, 2006 3:26 PM

Yo, I is da gang banger tellin use dat duh May-an is keepin' me DOOOOOOOOWN!

So after I done pop a cap in his ass and enjoy his ho, I'se gunna want his flat screen, his audi, hes nice howse and all, ya know, mo-fo, da things BLACK folk insvented and done worked hard for, youse knows.

Next I'se gunna pop a cap in the ass of dose oreos Cosby, Steele and da rest uh them nigguz, cause dey sold OUT to da May-an and gots themselves an edjumacation and uncle-tomed for da whiteys.

Posted by: fity sayant at March 15, 2006 3:33 PM

whats with the fear of this young lady's words, i mean she speaks three languages for christs sakes and you dont think she understands remorse thats horse shit.

Posted by: maurice johnson at March 15, 2006 4:13 PM

whats with the fear of this young lady's words, i mean she speaks three languages for christs sakes and you dont think she understands remorse thats horse shit.

Posted by: maurice johnson at March 15, 2006 4:14 PM

THE TRUTH HURTS...doesn't it.

Posted by: Angel La. at March 15, 2006 4:34 PM

I find it odd that you don't believe she wrote the poem, when the child speaks 3 different languages. I guess us NIGRAS can't be smart at 7. That's just not possible.

Like I said, THE TRUTH HURTS..

Posted by: Angel La at March 15, 2006 4:37 PM

Wow, it is a shame to see how ignorant most people are. This young girl is much smarter than 90% of the people on here. If she can speak several languages, she can write that poem.

Now for my tidbit of "racism"

If "Hoss" will stop teaching his kids to hate niggers and kill small animals, maybe they may be able to one day articulate their beliefs in a public forum besides yelling "Go BACK TO AFRICA!!" and wearing bed sheets.

Posted by: Chris at March 15, 2006 4:57 PM

I don't doubt that she could have written it. What I do doubt is the independent thought involved in her reasoning. It is wrong to lash out at an innocent 7 year old girl who is a victim of indoctrination by a racist, bigot father.

Yeah I said it, he's a racist. I've never used the N word, I'm kind to everyone, but I'm a racist? Calling me a cracker or honky is racist. Some of the comments made here, by both sides of the argument, show even more bigotry. Yeah, there exists a lot of racism all over the world. But it doesn't justify calling myself and my 8 year old son white devils or honkys. That's BS.

While I disagree with the comments, I feel that it is her constitutional right to say such things. It is just as much a constitutional right for a white person to make racist comments (not that I would personally, I find it tasteless and showing a lack of intelligence to resort to hate speech.)

A friend of mine called me a cracker in college once (he wasn't a friend them) and I expressed my distaste for his comments. I was young and impulsive then, but I threw a beating on him. Later that evening he apologized to me, he didn't realize how it could possibly hurt my feelings to be called a racial slur. He was never taught that way. We remain good friends still with a mutual respect. He took personal responsibility for his actions. More people should be as good a man as he is. He doesn't feel that he is owed anything, why should I or my children owe anything to a person regardless of race or religion or etc.??

Posted by: mb at March 15, 2006 6:04 PM

I can't believe you people can say such things about a child. If this child had...…let say, blonde hair and blue eyes none of you would have made those comments or any comments close to them and there would be no doubt of the poems authenticity. The truth is the truth and it hurts. Take a look at Amerikkkan history. YOU butchered the Indians and TOOK their land. Then you travel all the way to Africa and forced them into slavery in Amerikkka and for the person who said "go back to Africa"…???... Your people took over Africa and oppressed the natives there. Tell the White Africans to come back home! You say her parents taught her to hate but you people are staying these hateful things about a child. That is truly evil. Yes, I'm black and no, I don't feel Amerikkka owes me anything. I have opportunities just like anyone else it's up to me to take advantage of them. You people will never understand what is like to be black. Look at how upset you are over a poem that was written by a seven year old. Her being a racist infuriates you? This cannot be tolerated…….right! Now, think of what it's like to be Black hearing these things often and knowing people smile in you face but has a hatred for you in their harts. For all of the black people reading this remember "the strong move quiet and the weak start riots". Don't belittle yourself by using harsh language trying to upset them. Instead Educate yourself. Research your roots, black inventors, Read Huey Newton, Marcus Garvey, Langston Hughes & George Jackson, etc., Look into the Nation of Islam (There are black Muslims in Africa), read about Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X. Stay on top of world events, politics and most of all KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!!! Support one another and remember the youth is our salvation.

"We will have taken one giant step forward when we face this reality: Powerful people never teach powerless people how to take their power away from them." JOHN HENRIK CLARKE

This doesn't apply to all white people, just the ignorant ones. This is a message for all you racist. You can tan all day and all night but your skin will never be a beautiful brown. It more like a Lucifer's red. Don't hate something you can never become.

Posted by: Kissed by the sun at March 15, 2006 6:22 PM

mb, I know that you realize that not all people are racist. And I agree that her views were maybe forced on her. She IS only 7 after all.

Posted by: Chris at March 15, 2006 6:37 PM

Wow, this little seven year old girl really caused this white conservative blog to catch some feelings I see. I thouroughly enjoyed how www.nahright.com turned this entire post around. But I digress, first of all, let me just say all those kids earlier, that either called this little girl a bitch, didn't believe her words, or just decided to be internet tough guy; absolute cowards. From what I cant tell, white people, though individually can be VERY cool, as a group, tend to have an 'ignorance is bliss' type mentality. Its the entire anthropology of "American" caucasians if you take a close look. Their root is Europe, where, Europeans have never truly been dominated by a culture of a different color. Hence, that bizarre curiousity and that annoying ass explorer mentality. African or Asian cultures, meanwhile, closed themselves in from the outer world and decided to focus on their own problems. Meanwhile, white Europe is thinking, what's over there? What's on the other side of that ocean? They arrive, they see things they've never seen before, and immediately, the instinct is to erradicate said nuance. Take it over, make it ours, make it right. American whites, who find their roots from these Europeans, just don't understand what its like to be that Native American that got his land stolen. That African that just got kidnapped and brought somewhere to work for free. That Asian who was responsible for building that goddamned railroad. You don't know what its like to be in that position. You don't know what its like to be called the minority, when in fact, all of us colored people are clearly the majority. But yes, you've already managed to make society OK w/ grouping and segmenting us by color. That's how you like it right? Keep things white, keep things right? Ask yourself, have you ever been discrimnated before for being white? And I don't mean you got disprespected at a Hip Hop club or some 'urban youth' called you white boy. You ever REALLY been discriminated? Oh and by the way, that pussy who cried b/c his friend called him a cracker? Grow some balls bitch, cracker and honky are much friendlier than nigger, spic, chink, gook, etc. We don't even HAVE a very hateful word to call you. So eat MY dick until you've walked in my shoes for a day.

Posted by: Look At History at March 15, 2006 6:38 PM

I find it interesting that commenters who use four-letter words and insult people of other races are not racist, but commenters who simply suggest that someone who says "we should all be back in Africa" is (a) welcome to go back if they wish to or (b) stating a racist point of view are racists. Obviously I don't understand racism, because I don't understand why everything has to be about the color of a person's skin. Idiocy knows no skin color. Neither does intelligence. But just in case nobody noticed, hate-filled comments speckled liberally with curse words are not the best way to influence others or advance your cause. I'm willing to listen to reasonable arguments from any side and any point of view, but the kind of hate I'm seeing here is not only nonpersuasive, it's not deserving of serious attention.

Posted by: The Random Yak at March 15, 2006 7:54 PM

Poor kid. Reminds me of a boy I saw on the news maybe ten years back, whose father was some fire-and-brimstone preacher and was training him up in the profession. The boy was about nine or ten at the time, and could recite chapter and verse from the Bible...probably because he had had to memorize it, and that memorization was the bulk of his education. The element reminiscent of this girl, though, was the disturbing style of preaching he had been taught -- he would yell and scream at the congregation, berating them for their sinfulness and the like with such over-the-top, red-faced and spitting anger that it was a wonder he didn't burst a blood vessel.

And yet, for all his emotional ranting and dramatic presentation, the kid was clearly too young and lacking in basic knowledge, life experience and maturity to have more than an abstract understanding of what it was he was condemning...if even that.

That's what I see in this poor girl. She speaks several languages? Good for her -- try to impress a European with that. Such an ability doesn't prove anything about her comprehension of the topics of the poems she ostensibly writes. I see nothing about this child to that would make me see her differently than the preacher's boy -- she is nothing more than a tool being used by manipulative parents to spread an ugly message she herself cannot possibly comprehend.

Posted by: prince of leaves at March 15, 2006 9:33 PM

This poor brainwashed black girl reminds me of the Neo-Nazi Doublemint twins. 2 sides of the same racist coin.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Posted by: General Jack D. Ripper at March 15, 2006 10:44 PM

COWARDS, NO ONE THAT SPEAKS BAD ABOUT A BLACK CHILD WOULD EVER HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SPEAK BAD ABOUT THEM TO THEIR FACE, I BET YOU ALL HIDE FORM BLACKS, AND WHISPER RACIST REMARKS ABOUT THE SO THEY WILL NOT HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL AFRAID. COWARDS ONCE AGAIN!

Posted by: MIKE at March 15, 2006 10:50 PM

No one tell young Autum who sold her ancestors into slavery, and stood on the shore counting their money while the ship sailed away...

Posted by: Studying for the Global Test at March 16, 2006 12:02 AM

Fuck you racist white mutha fuckers. yall believe anything that's posted. Why can't you believe a seven year old girl wrote this. This seven year old girl also speaks several laguages. How many do you speak? Yeah you can say we can go back to Africa, but you should also say that you'll pay for it. You brought us over here so since you want us to leave pay to get us back. This is a gifted young girl who is a realist. Look it up. One more thing. Fuck You!

Posted by: d-boi at March 16, 2006 1:27 AM

Anybody remember, way back when Bill Clinton wanted to have a National Dialogue on Race? Aren't you glad he didn't go through with it? This is what it would have degenerated into.
I've lived in Europe for a while. Meeting somebody, even a seven year old, who can speak three languages, is not that unusual. Its only unusual because she's an American. We have to be the most poorly educated people in the industrialized world. The comments on this site prove it. Look, I'll trash Cindy Sheehan any day of the week. But calling a little girl a bitch, is just plain stupid.

Posted by: phil at March 16, 2006 5:22 AM

I guess I'm missing something. I don't see where she said that all whites were devils or vampires. She called the "devils and vampires" she was referring to by name - Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin.

Reading this website let's me see that things in this country will never change. We can talk until we are blue in the face. We can hold hands and sing Cum-ba-ya for 200 years and White supremacy and ethnocentric monoculturalism are the foundation of this country and the only way to truly make things better would be to start over again from scratch, but we know that just won't happen so here we are with people who call 7 year old girls bitches because they think differently or have been taught to think differently than the dominant culture. Amazing!

Posted by: D- at March 16, 2006 7:51 AM

Everyone seems to be missing the fact that this girl's poem called for blacks to be returned to Africa.

Posted by: Archonix at March 16, 2006 8:34 AM

WHY CALL SOMEONE RACIST WHEN EVERY WORD THAT PERSON SAYS IS TRUE. I FEEL THAT MORE BLACK YOUTH'S NEED TO BE IN HER STATE OF MIND.

Posted by: JASON at March 16, 2006 9:27 AM

This is truly incredible. You all are the most racist group of people I have ever come across. Firstly, to address your issue of "if you don't like it here then go back to Africa" or "Africa is in so much better shape" comments. That is one of the piece's points. We did not "ask" to come here! We were MOST definitely "forced." Who here can say that never happened? Not one of you! Of course Africa is not doing as well as America! How could they? Africa was raped and pillaged and lost a great deal of their main resource............the people!!!!!!!!!! If there is a forest and you cut down it's trees, it is no longer the vibrant forest it once was. How incredibly moranic can you all be? Also, she NEVER stated that all white people were evil. The piece was in reference to something very specific and that is the evil people who were part of those atrocities. Have you ever put yourselves in the shoes of that African who was in his own land then all of a sudden finds himself being captured by foreigners, taken to the west coast of Africa, thrown into a building full of people like him, beaten with whips, chained with extremely heavy chains, thrown onto a ship, packed into the ship like sardines, watched your friends and family die from disease, murdered at he hands of your capturers, watched your women be raped, taken to a land where you were then inspected like cattle, pulled apart from your family, watched children go to separate places than their parents, forced to work 20 hours of hard labor with no pay, raped of your religion, your God, when you try to escape you are maimed or worst yet murdered, after generations and generations of this you are "supposedly" set free, never received what you were supposed to receive, left with no land, been considered 3/5 of a human being, have laws created against you, and yet still you advance, yet only slightly, been denied education, been denied the right to vote, when you try to fight for basic human rights you have dogs set on you, fire hoses set on you, police set on you, yet you still advance only to be denied jobs based on your skin color, you watch your leaders murdered in cold blood, men in white hoods terrorize your community and commit more atrocities, received unequal pay for the same job and the same product, and yet when a little girl tries to express her feelings on all of this, the only thing you racists can do is call her a racist? Wow! That is truly incredible. What's even more incredible about it is you all atre saying "go back to Africa!" Why don't you go back to where you are from. This is not your land. Christopher Columbus did not "discover" this land. How can you "discover" something where there is already somebody there? How about I come and "discover" your house or "discover" your bank account. Again, if her poem struck a nerve with you then you need to take a seriously long look at yourself in the mirror.

Posted by: Earl at March 16, 2006 9:54 AM

Slavery in Africa is far older than the white man. Africans made slaves of each other for hundreds, possibly thousands of years before white men even heard of the place. But that's not particularly special. Whites were making slaves of each other at the same time. You CANNOT place the blame for slavery entirely on the white man's shoulders. Ask the Amistad survivors. Several of them went on to become slavers themselves.

Face it, this girl - or perhaps her father acting through her - is racist as they come. The mere fact that she's a different colour shouldn't absolve her from that responsibility. YOu see, racism is the unalloyed hatred of a particular group based on racial characteristics; calling blacks "niggers" and acting as if they're inferior simply because they're black is racism. Calling whites "crackers" or "honkies" and acting as if they're evil simply because they're white - which is what this girl does - is equally racist.

And again, I would like to point out that the girl herself has said "we should go back to africa". Apparently she believes segregation is a good thing. Is it? Hardly. Segregation is what caused so many of the problems we have today, only it's not called segregation; it's called affirmative action. A pile of shit by any other name still stinks to high heaven. Unless you think that purposelu telling an entire racial group that they can't succeed without government intervention is a good thing...

Posted by: Archonix at March 16, 2006 10:39 AM

No place in her poem does she say African Americans should go back to Africa. I am commenting on the piece as well as the racists comments people have made on this post. Now, if she made that statement in an interview then so be it. I definitely don't agree with that. I was born and raised on this soil so it is my home. I will NEVER let anybody run me from my home. It's funny how people always talk about white people were enslaved and Africans enslaved other Africans. All of that is true, in the terms of a serfdom. Not the same as slavery. Also, even if there is a slavery condition it does not make what was done to the African right. It does not validate the treatment of the Black community in society today. I say today, however, today compiles a significant piece of time in this very young country. How can you even attempt to validate that treatment of a people? I know how. You are not one of them. Again, put yourself in the shoes of the other and maybe you can open your eyes.

Posted by: Earl at March 16, 2006 11:21 AM

This website is a haven for racists apparently. If this girl did indeed call all white people devils then she is a racist but there is nothing racist about that poem. She refers specifically to Darwin and Columbus. Who were vampires and devils. I also find it very entertaining that whenever race is brought up it people mention affirmative action. If you know anything about affirmative action then you would realize how seldomly it is actually employed and under what circumstances it is justified. To the woman that said her husband was turned down 3 times in favor of black high school grads. I call B.S. Myabe your husband issues in the work place that go beyond his education and why is he applying for jubs that are open to high school grads? As far as the "gravy train" comment.I again call B.S. Please inform me on how the American system benefits it's Black citizens. Most of the people on every form of government assistance are White. Those are just the facts. This country's greatness was built on the backs of our ancestors and we have been here for more generations than most white families. We will never be content until we are treated as equals. If any of the white commenters were Black then I'm sure that they wouldn't either. I nor most Black people don't fault all of white society for the current situation in the Black community but it is important to understand the institutionalized syste of racism in America even up to the 1960's. People think slavery was the end of inequality in America. We didn't even have the right to vote (protect ourself under the law)until Civil Rights. Some of you people should seriously take a history course. I know that most racists (black or white) are just uneducated.

Posted by: Donovan at March 16, 2006 11:46 AM

The chuckle-heads have invaded this site.

Don't argue with them, they don't have the brain capacity or tolerance for it.

Posted by: Thinking Human at March 16, 2006 12:29 PM

You A-A's crack me up.

Everything is the white man's fault, nothing is your fault.

I can be as tolerant as possible and I'm still a racist in your eyes.

This girl can spout extreme racist views and you defend her.

This is your problem, and until you can come to grips with your own issues you will never evolve. (and you can take evolve any way you want, I don't care)

Posted by: Evil_White_American at March 16, 2006 12:37 PM

Doug, thanks for that link, it's a great read!

One wonderful quote is this:

"I look at black people and say, the thing you just don’t see is that you are absolutely free. There’s no excuse any more for not doing well in this society. People from other countries with language barriers and every other problem can come over here and thrive in a single generation—and you can’t because you don’t yet know how to be responsible in freedom."

Posted by: Positively_American at March 16, 2006 1:40 PM

The last few posts are exactly what's wrong. What the hell is an AA? I am a successful computer programmer, who has a wife and a child. Everything I got I got on my own. I run my own business and yes I do hire White people. I also hire Hispanic, Pacific Islander and yes, Black people. You are a racist with comments like "Everything is the white man's fault, nothing is your fault." That is so ignorant. I thought this post was about the extremely bright little girl's poem. Where in her poem can you say she is telling a lie? Where? Then the comment about people from other countries coming over here and succeeding. Don't make me go there. That is another conversation that is too detailed to educate you on in this forum. Again, you say this is a racist poem. I would like just ONE of you to tell me where it is racist. Also, where is it a lie?

Posted by: Earl at March 16, 2006 2:37 PM

Earl,

Get a life...

You know exactly what an AA is...african american. Dope. Don't act stupid. Don't act like some dumb darkey who needs to be taught everything by whitey.

YOU are exactly what's wrong. YOU need to stop complaining about whites, and start encouraging BLACKS to get off their a$$e$ and get an education and get a job!!!

And that extremely bright little girl called the white people "devils". You are a complete, utter, black fool.

Crawl back to your friggin african homeland.

Posted by: Thinking Human at March 16, 2006 3:09 PM

Okay, once again the blacks of this country show how stupid they are. Earl above said "Where in her poem can you say she is telling a lie?"

Allow me to quote some of her rhetoric for you that you must have missed along the way:

All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils. I feel they're devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa

Earl, I wish you would follow her advice and go on back to your beloved homeland.

You're not in bondage, jackass, no one is "keeping you down", you're just lazy. A computer programmer? HAHA Did you get into college because of affirmative action? Did you get a job because of affirmative action? You didn't earn anything, it was given to you by whites. If you really thought you could get along without us, do it.

But you won't, because you can't. To you it's all about demanding more money from whitey for this or that, then blaming whiting for this or that.

I'M a computer programmer, and guess what, I didn't need affirmative action, I didn't need someone feeling sorry for me to get a job. I simply worked hard. YOU on the other hand simply worked as much as was needed to get by, the rest was handed to you.

Posted by: Rick at March 16, 2006 3:16 PM

Earl, why do you think there was something wrong with the posts right before yours? All the guy was saying was that blacks need to clean their own house and not expect whites to do it for them. Do you disagree?

And why do you say her poem was completely true?

"Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin", are they vampires? Darwin was just a scientist, he wasn't some kind of black oppressor.

"Nothing has changed take a look at our streets", nothing has changed since when? Since last week? Maybe not...since segregation? You're legally equal, and can sue me if I discriminate against you. Since slavery? I can't sell you, can I?

"They killed the blind, they killed the lazy, they went
So far as to kill the unborn baby", just what time period are we talking about here? During slavery? Or now? Now you're killing your OWN babies, you don't need my help.

It seems to me that you are simply defending a very hate-filled diatribe SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE'S BLACK. I certainly wouldn't defend a white supremacist simply because he's WHITE! Why would you do that? The old "content of their heart, not the color of their skin" only counts for whites? Should you stop defending blacks who are openly racist? Are YOU, Earl, a racist? Are you? You need to look at the man in the mirror.

Posted by: Steve at March 16, 2006 3:36 PM

Earl you may be surprised that the quote about other people coming here from other countries and succeeding was made by a black man.

Perhaps you should read more about people like him than people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farakhan. These guys only got where they are by preaching hatred, but the guy who made that quote got where he is by working hard and overcoming adversity. He's 60 year old with a doctorate in English, and is a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution.

So before you dismiss his quote, try taking a look at all the facts. I'd say he's right on the money. In fact, I challenge you to read his entire interview, I'll post Doug's link again.

Posted by: James_M at March 16, 2006 3:48 PM

Earl is a VERY typical black person. If you can't out argue, just call them all "racists".

HAHA.

Earl I dare you to try to win an argument without resorting to calling someone a racist.

Posted by: Winnie at March 16, 2006 3:53 PM

To all who are saying she DID NOT call white people devils, read on:

Ashante, in defense of her poetry, made those comments to staff writer Dwight Worley for the Westchester Journal News. They were published here but the Journal News later removed the link, in an attempt to throw cold water on the issue.

Now the Journal News has follow up articles by OTHER staff writers that puts a benign spin on the whole thing, basically blaming the school district.

The exact quote she made was white people are:
"devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

Posted by: Investigator at March 16, 2006 4:12 PM

Let me just add one thing to this hot and heavey debate.

I am a white person. I do not hate black people, no white person I know hates black people.

HOWEVER, I am seeing a LOT of backlash against blacks over the last few years because they seem so dead set against whites.

So many black people I know make openly racist comments against whites, and they don't mind calling someone a racist over the most minor issue.

NOT ONE SINGLE black person I know was willing to say O.J. Simpson was guilty. Equally, EVERY black person I know has stood up for every black person who has been in the media for committing some crime.

THAT is why I say there is beginning to be a huge backlash against blacks. I can see it in these comments. People are getting fed up with doing so much to help the black community, but inevitably being called racist and blamed for their problems.

I'm so tired of all these arguments. There is NOTHING that ANYONE can do to change history. And I have absolutely no idea what it will take for black people to move on, forget about slavery, and do the best they can with what's here now.

Whites are bending over backwards to help blacks, to honor them and their heritage, to help them get out of the ghettos, get a good education, a good job, etc. And any black person who denies that, there is no way to argue with them, they are not interested in facts.

But I don't see any gratitude from the black community, just blame and intolerance. I would certainly be willing to give gratitude to the black community if it were helping me. At the very least, even if there's no gratitude, how about a little respect? How about NOT calling everyone a racist who disagrees with you, how about trying to get along as an AMERICAN instead of segregating yourselves as AFRICAN-AMERICANS. I don't go around calling myself IRISH/ENGLISH/GERMAN/ASIAN/CHEROKEE/WHATEVER-AMERICAN.

If the black community would stop fixating on their skin color, they would find the white community more than willing to accept and befriend them. The past is the past, and it was about black and white. Can the future just be about individuals?

Posted by: Carrie M. at March 16, 2006 4:26 PM

d-boi wrote:
"Yeah you can say we can go back to Africa, but you should also say that you'll pay for it."

Man wouldn't it be great if it were that simple, just give them money for a plane ticket and say adios.

But they'd just use the money on crack and whores. Even if they got back to Africa, they still be "under bondage" to us somehow. We'd still be bailing their butts out, sending aid money, etc.

Posted by: Nobody at March 16, 2006 4:35 PM

Excuse me, the full quote was actually:

"All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils. I feel they're devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

This is what was on the Westchester Journal News but was later removed. Sorry for leaving out the full quote before.

Posted by: Investigator at March 16, 2006 4:40 PM

The Truth said: "YOU RACISTS"

racism still exists said: "i'd make u my bitch"

fuck all yall said: "fuck all yall crackers"

Chris said: "Now for my tidbit of "racism""

Kissed by the sun said: "This is a message for all you racist."

Look At History said: "...eat MY dick..."

Mike said: "I BET YOU ALL HIDE FORM BLACKS"

d-boi said: "Fuck you racist white mutha fuckers."

Earl said: "You all are the most racist group of people I have ever come across."

Earl said: "...the racists comments people have made..."

Donovan said: "This website is a haven for racists apparently."

Earl said: "You are a racist..."

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What I hear: "blah blah blah...same ol' same ol'"

Vast majority of you are either talking trash or calling people racists.

The rest are simply defending a very racist little girl's poem. Yes, if a white girl said about black people what this black girl said about white people, it would be racist. So when she says:
"All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils. I feel they're devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

then she's a racist. As some of you like to say "The Truth Hurts".

Posted by: Urbane_Fallout at March 16, 2006 5:02 PM

YOU ALL ARE SICK! TALKING ABOUT THIS LITTLE GIRL! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT RACISM IS A "LEARNED" BEHAVIOR IN BLACKS AS IT IS IN WHITES?...YA'LL ALL NEED THE LOVE OF CHRIST IN YALL LIVES...I PRAY FOR THIS SOCIETY.

Posted by: Divyne at March 16, 2006 5:04 PM

Wow. What a mess.

Posted by: nikko at March 16, 2006 5:08 PM

Divyne,

And just who learns blacks to be racist? I didn't do it. But when I hear people like Farakhan, Jackson, and Sharpton saying openly racist remarks about white people....hhhmmmm...could it be THAT's where you're learning it?

And as for this little girl, I'd say she learned it from her father, a member of the Nation of Islam. Don't-cha-think?

Posted by: Rugged at March 16, 2006 5:12 PM

i am disgusted and appauled at the ignorance and harsh vocabulary used in some of your comments towards this brave and intelligent little girl.. I too am a poet and have been writing poems just like this one since ELEMENTARY... no one coached me or put things in my head to write any of those poems... the commentary on this site proves how unaware people are in terms of another race.. stop reading books and watching the news to get information.. try getting to know us on a personal level.. with that being said i wish you all love and a peace of mind.. A-SALAAM-A-LAIKUM....

Posted by: islamicbeauty at March 16, 2006 5:30 PM

I believe many people are adding comments based only on the first few comments they read at the top...probably the case for islamicbeauty.

And to think that he praises her as a "brave and intelligent little girl." It reminds me of how people in the Muslim world teach their children to be suicide bombers, and are so proud of them when they blow themselves up and kill lots of innocent people.

Obviously this little girl is only SEVEN! What does she know about slavery or segregation or oppression? Most of her life has been AFTER 9/11!!

So for her to have such a view as she does, it was brainwashed into her. She didn't just come up with that on her own based on her own experiences. I'd venture to say she probably has NEVER been oppressed in her many years on this planet.

In our society this is beauty: "All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils. I feel they're devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

and this is racist: http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

I just don't see much difference.

Posted by: James_M at March 16, 2006 5:59 PM

islamicbeauty,

You're Islamic and you wish us all "love and a peace of mind". I thought you wanted us all dead, especially the white, infidel Christians.

Am I wrong? Please respond, I would love to hear your point of view on Islamic issues and how to deal with white Christians.

Posted by: Rugged at March 16, 2006 6:02 PM

islamicbeauty, you say you've been writing this kind of stuff since elementary school, and that no one coached your or put the ideas into your head?

Well then where did those ideas come from? Were you channeling the past lives of slaves or something?

Posted by: James_M at March 16, 2006 6:05 PM

Go back to Africa?

If that's not racist then I don't know what is.

Hey, I just got into UCLA, I guess I must be an affirmative action baby, never mind that I'm a well-rounded student who may not have the highest GPA but certainly gets good grades, good SAT and ACT scores, and has just as many activities and honors on her plate as any Asian or white kid.

See, that's where I see some deep-lying racism with some white folks, cos I know for a fact that if I say that I got into a fantastically prestigious university such as (namedrop again) UCLA, somebody's bound to whisper behind my back that the only reason why I got in was because of affirmative action.

Fuck that. If white kids are smart enough to get in, I can be smart enough to get in. If a little seven year old white boy is smart enough to get into Harvard, then surely a seven year old black girl is capable of writing a poem based on her own ideology.

You folks need to chill.

Posted by: Omo. at March 16, 2006 7:23 PM

islamicbeauty, you said:
"try getting to know us on a personal level"

I tried but:

Farakhan wouldn't let me listen to his speech because of the color of my skin.

I was banned from your black prom because of the color of my skin.

I was banned by your highschool and college clubs because of the color of my skin.

I was banned from your black fraternities because of the color of my skin.

I wasn't allowed to hang out with you in your college dorms because of the color of my skin.

I wasn't allowed to participate in your black-only academics department because of the color of my skin.

Your black-only graduation ceremonies weren't for me because of the color of my skin.

Your magazines "Jet" and "Ebony" are specifically geared against people like me because of the color of my skin.

At work, the Black Diversity club won't even let me attend a meeting because of the color of my skin.

At work, the "diversity award" isn't something I'm able to win because of the color of my skin.

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If you really want us to get to know you so much, why do you segregate yourselves so much?

You should make this into a poem, it has a nice flow, right? Plus it has the added bonus of all being true.


Posted by: factual_Ron at March 16, 2006 7:57 PM

Omo,

It's nice to see an African-American with an education post something here, so I'd like to discuss some points with you.

1) When you say things like "If that's not racist then I don't know what is" and "Fuck that" and "cos I know for a fact" and "I see some deep-lying racism" and "You folks need to chill"... I have to say it makes you sound more ghetto that educated. It makes you sound like just another African-American who says white people are racists. I can't tell you how many times I've heard African-Americans make that claim for everything they don't agree with.

2) Point blank yes or no, do you think that the following statement the little girl made about white people is true: "All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do. ... Even the ones that try to fix up with us, they're still devils"

3) Point blank yes or no, even if you argue that she didn't say that or at least not in her poem, do YOU feel that statement is true?

4) Point blank yes or no, do you agree with her when she says: "We should be away from them and still be in Africa"?

5) Point blank yes or no, are African-Americans racist?

6) Point blank yes or no, do you honestly believe that she developed that poem from her own life experiences?

Thanks for responding, it's nice to get an HONEST perspective on this, so I hope you'll anser these honestly and we can have a dialog.

Posted by: Rat_Packer at March 16, 2006 8:11 PM

factual_Ron

I will add one thing, there are some white-only golf courses, but the difference is that those are on their way out, the things you named are on their way in.

And it is very funny that islamicbeauty said we should stop watching tv and reading books to get information. I guess we should just ask her what we need to know about the world at large? hehe..

And it's also funny how she thinks we're out of touch with her race! Good gosh, we can't turn on the TV without hearing an African American telling us all about how oppressed they are, and on and on about their sufferings. I can't listen to the radio or read a newspaper or the internet without hearing something about African Americans complaining that I'm racist for one thing or another. And now this little girl writing poetry about her awful oppression. hhmmmm...

I don't see them all that interested in the white race, except as a way to blame people for their problems.

Posted by: jeb at March 16, 2006 8:13 PM

Omo said "Go back to Africa? If that's not racist then I don't know what is."

Well I know what is, when I'm called a devil because I'm white. When a 7 year old girl says the only thing I was raised to do was rob, steal, and murder simply because I'm white. THAT's racist.

Besides, things are fine when people like her, and Farakhan, and Sharpton, and Jackson aren't stirring up hatred. SHE started this with her diatribe. When people respond negatively towards her, what the heck do you expect?

I agree that there is a deep-lying racism, but it's with people like that little girl and her father (who obviously taught her how oppressed she is). No white person told her to be racist or say racist things. So don't go blaming racism on white people. They're all trying to kiss the black a-- right now...heck, mainstream media won't even COVER most of this, and they would NEVER mention the most incendiary things she said. They're trying to protect you guys from being hated. YOU'RE the ones who keep shooting yourselves in the foot!


Posted by: ActionJoe at March 16, 2006 8:22 PM

Omo the reason people are talking about going "back to Africa" is because the little girl said that. She said "We should be away from them and still be in Africa".

So is she racist for saying that? It sounds like a normal response for people to say "well go then". What do you expect people to say..."oh please don't go", or "I know you called us devils but if you promise not to go we'll try to be better"..is that the respone you're looking for?


Posted by: Jacob at March 16, 2006 8:59 PM

Dang Omo, didn't you even read what that little girl said about white people? Are we just supposed to roll over and play dead? Why is it perfectly fine when she says that all white people rob and steal and murder, yada yada yada...but if anyone says "okay, you want to go back to Africa, then go", then suddenly WE'RE the racists!?

How does your thought process work on that one?

Posted by: Hank at March 16, 2006 9:08 PM

It is very funny to see the same people who continously show their bigotry and racism; act ignorant and crazy. Always screaming about how the first amendment allows them to be apart of their hate groups and have their little white pride rallies, be upset for the very thing you always claim you want black folks to do ( go home, to AFRICA that is) Affirmative action hasn't done that much for me as a degreed black woman & I could say the same for friends of mine. What it has done is let more caucus females get better paying jobs. so be mad at them. In theory ( a phrase your folks always throw around) we would love to go back home but the damage has run so deep and continues to take place by throwing salt on the old wounds its nearly impossible to go home. you have to be kidding me no one should be angry at that beautifully intelligent child for telling her truth. For every confederate flag raised you must know that there is a RED,BLACK AND GREEN one raised. what is so wrong with teaching our children the truth as we see it, the same way you do? for every columbus,jp morgan and who ever the vampire were, there is a KING,X AND GARVEY. i'm not mad at your vampires so don't be mad at my revolutionaries. it has never been fair game so what the hell are you making a whole web page crying for? you would not be mad if that child had been caucus from one of those little arian groups and neither would I because I know the reality of this country. I love my people and stand by our struggle while I hope your doing the same and I even wish you luck. Before I go I have one more question, How are you mad at the truth? and if it wasn't the truth then you tell me that all the people she mentioned in her poem did that was so upstanding as it concerns black folks? thank you for your ignorance and proving what she said about caucus is true by every word you said foul about a child no matter how wrong she was.

Posted by: Kamilah at March 16, 2006 9:46 PM

Hosnap. I gotta lot to respond to now. Gimme a moment to collect myself.

...

Okay.

First, Rat_Packer.

(1) First, I gotta say, "Negro, PLEASE." It's nice to see an educated African American? So what, had I not namedropped my future university would you have just assumed I was just another porchmonkey who was spouting bullshit? And yeah, I do often use African American Vernacular -- does that make me uneducated? I know when and how to "talk white," I prefer not to in this case, because I don't feel like impressing anybody with words out the dictionary. How does one "sound educated"? By humping a thesaurus? Is that how I should "best represent" my people? I repeat, fuck that.

(2) No, of course not. She, her father, and most of the Black Panther party are extremists. As a girl who sits on the moderately liberal side of the political spectrum, I'd be borderline retarded to say that I agree. BUT, this is most important now, I defend that little girl because although I detest some of what she has to say (like about Darwin... what the hell did he do to you? Damn, Autum!), I certainly support her right to say it, even if she is a mouthpiece for her father.

(3) You totally foresaw another tenet of my argument there, something that I will address with other comments. Once again, of course not. Copy and paste the above.

(4) I emigrated here from Nigeria when I was a kid, and personally, having lived in the States for a significant part of my life, I don't want to go back. However, I can see her (or possibly her father's) point when she says we "should be away" from white people: this whole discourse that I've read shows that after a while people DO get straight up retarded when it comes to discussions of race. Shit blows up, we (as a whole) can't handle it. Many black nationalists argue that the only logical way to end this conflict without violence is to simply separate the two. Don't believe me? Go to a day care, and see what happens when two kids get into a fight. Are they pushed closer together? HELL NAW! They're pulled apart, and sent to their separate corners. Do I think this is the "best" solution? No, I like white people, and I think segregation sucks.

(5) Point blank yes or no, are white people racist? Are Asian Americans racist? Are Native Americans racist? Are Latino Americans racist?

You see my problem with that question.

(6) 'Course not, the girl is seven. However, I'm 17. I have my own political ideology. I've never even had the chance to vote. Take note, my ideology is different from both my parents and my friends. I think that although that little girl may have gotten ideas from her daddy, he may not have stuffed every goddamned word in her head.

Phew. Next one.

ActionJoe, for the sake of clarification, are you a white nationalist? Do you believe in the supremacy of your master race? Let's assume no. Then goddamn, man, she isn't talking about you. Racist white people EXIST, and that is who she is addressing. Y'all are getting so fucking HEATED over something that she said, all this time talking about how much you hate racism, then you should be siding WITH her AGAINST racist whites!

Jacob, it's racist cos last time I checked, the First Amendment grants freedom of speech, even little seven year old shit-stirring porchmonkeys. Oh snap. This means that if you hate what she has to say, (and I can see why) your obligation is to accept it. Even if she advocates anti-white sentiment, your first response SHOULDN'T be "Go back to Africa!" I would hope for a response more along the lines of, "I detest what you have to say, little girl, but go 'head and say it." How do you think I respond to white supremacists? "Well, go back to Europe"?

As I typed that, I realized it's not making a lot of sense. Jeez, I'll clarify later, I'm tired.

Hank, point of clarification, Autum stated that WHITE NATIONALISTS, RACIST WHITE IMPERIALIST, rob, steal and murder... and they kinda do. Look what happened with the British, the Portuguese, and most of Africa.

I am so done with this right now. Have fun, righties.

Posted by: Omo. at March 16, 2006 10:00 PM

Omo,
Thanks for responding...so here we go. Now DON'T be offended, I'll just lay it out and let the chips fall...

For number 1, that's not what I said and you know it. I said "It's nice to see an African-American with an education post something here"...POSTING SOMETHING HERE. It irks me that you want to turn what I said into just another excuse to rant about white racism. Most of the posts by black people involved cursing and trash talking. I was glad to see an African American post intelligently. Hell, I WORK for a living, I work with African Americans every day of my life, I KNOW they're not all "porchmonkeys" as you put it. But before you posted, MOST African American posters ACTED that way, wouldn't you agree? Just look at the post by Urbane_Fallout listing the crap they said....

You consider "talking white" to not say course and vulger things? I would think that since we're a blending of all races here in the U.S. (including Nigeria) then a common language (English) is a good thing. I would think it's not talking "white", just talking English. I'm not English, but I don't mind learning the language of the land and using it correctly.

You defend that little girl because she has a right to say it? Do you defend white supremicists because they have a right to say it?

For number 5, I wish you would have simply asnwered "yes, some are some aren't, but so is everybody to some degree". It seems more reasonable to say that instead of avoiding the question.

Now, once again, I'm glad you posted your responses. I think a lot of what upset people was that the little girl seemed very separational in her attitude, and very anti-white...which is a hard thing for a white to take who has never even met her. You understand how it irks you to be treated a certain way by people who don't even know you? Well we feel the same way. That little girl doesn't even know me or anything about me, and yet she wants to be away from me, like I've been picking on her or calling her names or something.

Good chat. I'll let the others defend themselves.

Posted by: Rat_Packer at March 16, 2006 10:52 PM

I have to disagree with Omo on only a couple of things. First, I think it's wrong to say something negative about whites if you're only talking about whites who are racist. If that's what you mean, just say "whites who are racist" instead of "whites". I don't know that the little girl doesn't hate all whites, I see no evidence of it. All I see is based on what she says, not some lawyer type coming along afterwards saying "what she MEANT to say was..."

In fact, why even say whites at all? If I said "those black racists", people would jump all over me. Why does the black community not understand that we white people DO NOT like being called racist, or being lumped together with racists based just on the color of our skin? Do blacks have a right to be upset at a perceived racist statement? Well then so do whites!!

Other than that part of what Omo said, I like a lot of the rest of it. I just wish she and others could understand that it's NOT okay to insult someone's race based on something that someone ELSE did. She doesn't want me doing it to her, so leave us out of any discussions about your problems. (and I'm refering to her defense of what the little girl said).


Posted by: Fudge'ems at March 16, 2006 11:03 PM

Amazing: You actually found people that not only defend black racism, but clearly demonstrate that character flaw themselves.

Their behavior on this comment stream just validates every critical observation made about the little programmed child of hate.

Posted by: Michael at March 16, 2006 11:28 PM

I agree with hank that the situation will never be resolved there will always be a distrust between blacks and whites. Why try and work out are diffrences when we should be going our seperate ways and how long can black people use the slavery defense, slavery was abolished a hundred and thirty years ago get your act together.

Posted by: bigsmooth at March 17, 2006 12:32 AM

Lets face it, the playing field is not level with minorities in the United States. From business to government they are underepresented. This child is a product of the problem that still exists whether you choose to believe it or not. When Lincoln freed the slaves many historians point out he did not feel they where equal. Racism is a natural occurance in all human populations. If we allow racism to continue it will breed more hate like seen in this child, or in the children from Isreal. It is our responsibility to change this and hope that in time wounds can heal (With racism all over this country still to this day it is going to take awhile)

Posted by: Reed Harding at March 17, 2006 3:14 AM

As a black woman at a top notch east coast university, I have seen racism and have expereiced it in all forms. Though this little girl is quite gifted however it would seem that she is defintely the product of her environment( her father is in the nation of Islam). However this is America and free speech still reigns and if one makes a comment please don't be ingnorant. This little girl's poems had nothing to do with affirmative action. I have read the threads and some are commenting on how they were passed up for promotions and an underqualified blacks took their place. That is a lie. I attend NYU and I am telling you that I worked hard to get in and I was not given a space because I was black. I am tired of whites who are jealous of black\minorities rising in the workfield. . NYU and top notch US universities/colleges only average 4-10% black students. That is somewhere between 50-250 students depending on the size of the school. I know NYU has a very small black undergrad population.If affirmative action was as prevalent as people claim Harvard and Yale would HBUCs. Yes I do agree that where racism is concerned we need to stop racism within the Black community as well as within the rest of mainstream America however, don't used this girl as a reason to vent racist feelings you already had about blacks. You are not fooling anyone.

Posted by: Black Woman at Top University at March 17, 2006 3:23 AM

On the subject of affirmitive action: Whether or not you in particular were helped by affirmitive action, the fact that it exists in the first place will make peoplpe supsicious of your achievements. It isn't racism, it's simply a suspicion that you've been given a special break because of your skin.

The reason the vast majority of blacks don't succeed is because they're told from birth that they need only drag themselves down to the social security office to live and that the government will give them everything they want as long as they vote democrat, and that they'll get all the cushy jobs because the government has decreed they should. There's no incentive to succeed, to improve, for the vast majority. The reason blacks do so well in sports is because there's no affirmitive action there, no special treatment based on race.

Posted by: Archonix at March 17, 2006 5:42 AM


If the school district's only reaction is to BAN her from performing at a SCHOOL instead of using that performance as a way to foster imperative dialogue, then perhaps the teachers have a bit to learn themselves. And judging by the comments on this post, most of the people here haven't been adequately educated either...

But alas, her poem is working, isn't it, 80 comments about a harmless 7 year old girls poem...who knew such a young mind could speak truth to power in such a way that would awaken the minds of so many members of this "tolerant" internet community?

Posted by: Granny Nanny at March 17, 2006 11:13 AM

Racism from ALL people is repugnant. PERIOD.

Posted by: nikko at March 17, 2006 11:18 AM

You know whats EXTREMELY funny is that white folks love to think of african americans as uneducated gang-bangers when in fact they are as uneducated as they depict us, to not teach the history of a culture that you basically stole is shocking and demoralizing, so don't be surprised when the lies that you've been covering up get leaked- by the mouth of a seven year old girl. If you're mad enough to get upset by hearing the truth maybe you shouldn't do anything to get called out on it in the first place. I think its the dumbest thing not to acknowledge that your race is accountable for the the darkest area of American culture. And for you that keep insisting that nobody is keeping blacks here is as inept as they make this little girl out to be, any one of you white people can look at your family history in moving to america and see that not one of your family members was forcibly brought to this country, so before you judge this little girl you need to realize that you as a race deserved every word that she said if not before than definently now.

Posted by: MagnumBROWN at March 17, 2006 11:50 AM

Amen!

Posted by: Michelle at March 17, 2006 12:29 PM

After I read the story I was looking for the poem and am glad I found it. If you dumb ass white folk don`t know that she wouldn`t be here if it weren`t for the devils she speaks of, your parents ain`t teaching you shit but ignorance. You wanna blame black folk for crime they wouldn`t need to commit if the US was more of an equal opportunity country than they claim to be. And if you really can`t believe a 7 year old can be articulate you must be a real REDNECK hillbilly whitey. People brought up with articulate parents become articulate, not that you would know. I purposely used simple language so you can understand. This is for the blind white folk that don`t see anything wrong in your beloved land; THAT YOU ROBBED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Posted by: JULIE at March 17, 2006 12:49 PM

look, im a white guy but i dont take offense to this. SHES SPEAKING THE TRUTH. america is a fucked up racist country and its 'founders' were racist pieces of shit, and we learn about their 'accomplishments' in history class. this little girl aint racist, just smarter than the rest of the people on this site, which i only came across via a link from another. She probably has lots of white friends, and if shes smart enough to know 'paradigm', then shes smart enough to know that not all whites are like the people on this site. fuck u people, if we were face to face i couldnt explain the pain i would make u go thru, u make me embarrassed to be white. MAJOR RESPECT AUTUMN, PEACE/

Posted by: White guy at March 17, 2006 1:59 PM

Thank all of you who responded negatively to my post. You just proved the little girl right. You proved my points right as well. Instead of stating facts, all you did was talk negatively about me, say that I got into college because of affirmative action and tell me to go back to Africa. Please you all need to approach me more intelligently. I laughed so hard when I read some of your responses I started to feel sorry for you. You let the truth anger you to the point that you had to resort back to cave man days. Somebody mention Darwin; you really need to delve into ideologies and where it mentions Blacks insert the word White and vice versa. At that point you can argue with me about Darwin. I know for a fact you don't want me to go there about your beloved Columbus either. Come on guys! Give me something I can sink my teeth into. Come with some education. Not the education you got from campus. I would like someone to come with some education from reading on your own. I wanbt to hear from someone that despite what they were taught chose to delve deeper to find the truth. You can't honestly look in the mirror and conclude that what you were taught sounds correct. You know why it sounds good to you? Well, because it was all about you! It showed you to be superior! It does not teach you about Kush and the origins of the sciences, mathematics and the arts! Go back to Africa? My people built this land! What if we did go back to Africa and took all of our inventions. The ones we got credit for and the ones that were stolen. More and more, I am beginning to believe Yabub's Theory. You all are acting like somebody did you wrong!

Posted by: Earl at March 17, 2006 2:08 PM

You know one thing that truly bothers me with racism is this, white people love to say how they don't think us blacks are affected by racism, how none of the actions of the past affect us any longer. I'll share the biggest way racism, and slavery are still affecting me. Any white person you meet can tell you exactly what type of heritage you come from i.e. you have your irish-american, italian- americans, hell even chinese- americans and mexican-americans. Those are Countries! We are known as African-Americans when Africa is a Continent. My point is any other nationality knows exactly what they are and where they come from whereas, African Americans had that stripped from them soley by white people. There are over 52 African countries and I have no clue which I am from.

Posted by: magnumBROWN at March 17, 2006 2:30 PM

Also I just wanted to state that I agree with OMO in her post. When we as a black culture talk about "whitey" we are talking about the less than %50 of white people who are still very much racist. I think the problem is here: When we generalize about white people they are usually successful, well-spoken, and sometimes uppity. When the racist portion of white America generalizes about black people to them we are usually unaccomplished gang-banging, underachieving members of society. Just like I agree that there is a large part of the white population that have no racist bones in their body I think that its time for white people to appreciate that there are black people who want to become more and strive for excellence.

Basically those underachieving blacks are to successful black people what trailer park white trash is to successful white people. I grew up in a very tolerant home my mother is actually the director of a non-violence organization called the Fellowship of Reconciliation. I do not believe that I am racist however I will not walk on egg shells around white people who claim that the black race is made up of black people who want to wait in unemployment lines and seek welfare from the government.I would never talk bad about anyone on welfare because I know it gets tough but I am black and to me Welfare is the easy way out, sort of the way slavery was the easy way out for slave owners. So basically to the white people who shit on welfare being given to blacks- get off their backs white people were basically on welfare for 150 years. I definently think that racism is a lot different now than it was even 40 years ago and I appreciate the change. So when I am talking harsh and I say "whites" I apologize for not breaking that down to "whites who still have the wrong views about blacks" Just realize that when you turn your light out before you go to bed we aren't white or black just people in the dark.

Posted by: magnumBROWN at March 17, 2006 2:56 PM

Correction: Yacub's Theory

Posted by: Earl at March 17, 2006 3:50 PM

Also, the next white person that says "well then go back to Africa" should do exactly that. Go back to your land! This is not your land! I repeat. This is not your land! Your land is in the Caucus Mountains! This land belongs to the Indians. Need I revisit how that turned out? Also, I'm sure that most of you are God fearing Christians. How many of you still believe Jesus is white? How many? I say all of this not to be inflammatory, but to point out that if you are not ready to admit these truths, you cannot objectively join an intelligent discussion about racism. As a matter of fact, you will do nothing but continue to berate me and in that I have the victory!

Posted by: Earl at March 17, 2006 4:00 PM

Hey Rick! Did you not read what I wrote? Are you that angry? I don't work for anybody. I am the employer!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 17, 2006 4:11 PM

Black People, White People, and All People In Between--

Here's the thing: When we see an Autum or a David Duke, members of the different race tend to generalize those individual behaviors to entire races. That is the epitome of racism. Is every black person a thugged-out crackhead? Obviously not. Is every white person a tobacco-chewing racist ignoramus? Obviously not. Anyone who believes that all members of any one group are the same is beyond reason. I think that most reasonable people can agree that there are good and bad people from every race.

So how do we get past this? We're not going to be able to change history: everything that has happened had indeed happened. And it's not going to be some sweeping change that happens all it once to everyone. Each of us, as individuals, need to look at everyone else as just that, an individual. The black person who just robbed a convenience store has no connection to the black person who is next to you in the elevator. The white person who burned black churches has no connection to the white person who is behind you at the checkout line.

Is discrimination against black people real? Yes. Did slavery, lynchings, and the white supremacist movement have an impact on America that endures to this day? Absolutely. But are all white people today responsible for everything that every black person goes through? Of course not.

Let's take emotion out of it, and use a reasonable person's standard. A reasonable person can say that it doesn't make sense to call a 7 year old girl a racist bitch. A reasonable person can also say that all of the views espoused in her poem would not get the world in any better shape than it is in today. So let's all use our heads, and our hearts, to make today better than yesterday. America is in a unique position. We have more diversity than any other country. Our cultural richness as a nation gives us the opportunity to provide things that no other coutnry can. But if we continue to use our differences to divide rather than to support each other, we will find ourselves losing some of the greatness this nation was built on. The ideals the country was built on--life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, the idea that all men are created equal, that all are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights--these ideals, if realized, will pave the way for the world for the next thousand years. These ideas represent the best of what we as a nation have to offer. Whether or not these become more than ideas depends on all of us, including and especially the people who are posting in this forum. If we want a better world, we have to build it. Together.

Posted by: randall at March 17, 2006 4:55 PM

Excellent post Randall. This is the type of comment that actually has real insight as well as acknowledging the truths. Of course no clear thinking person would actually believe that an entire race should suffer because of the few bad. I never once in my posts grouped an entire race. I only agreed with what was in her poem. That is what I thought this was about. Commenting solely on the poem. I have to agree with it. However, most of the responses from people refuse to acknowlege the wrong doings and act like everything she said in that poem was made up. Like it was some make believe fairytale.

Posted by: Earl at March 17, 2006 5:52 PM

I am truly disappointed in the views of most you. Your responses were not from this article, but what you having been feeling for the longest time. What good is coming from the negative reaction most of you posted? Instead of pointing blame on who is racist, and who's not; lets hear some positive resolutions to these problems? It's easy to say get over the past. It's easy to call names. It's easy to say I'm not really racist, but I'm tired of them saying that I am because I don't agree. Well, it's not that you have to agree; but the manner of how you disagree is what is bothersome. There are smart whites people as well as there are smart black people. There are lazy white people as well as there are lazy black people. There are white murderers as well as there are black murderers. There are white racists as well as there are black racists. So, what are we trying to prove with the nasty remarks? It's not right no matter who it comes from.

Have we not learned anything from the past? Are we doomed to hate each other forever? Please people if you don't have a solution to the issue at hand, I suggest you keep your negativity to yourself.

I ask everyone of you to watch the movie "CRASH". It can be used as a tool for you to become a little more open minded.

WE ARE ALL RACIST to a certain degree. Let's stop lying to ourselves.

And those of you who stated you have tried to be friends with blacks...you know your lying. Those of you who said you couldn't get into clubs black clubs, and proms, and events; your lying.

The only exclusive clubs I know of are country clubs...blacks don't own them. So let's stop lying to each other and ourselves.

Let's make this world a better place for everyone...

And who said that blacks are not evolving? That's a lie. Stop trying to learn about blacks from the news. Go to thriving areas, such as Washington DC...you will see black lawyers, doctors, dentists, and so forth....

One last thing; we need to stop thinking affirmative action was for blacks only...white women were also beneficiaries of affirmative action.

I am black, and haven't received one penny through Affirmative Action. And to say that is the only way we've made it is wrong.

Affirmative Action is not available to Howard University (which is a black college)and have produced many thriving black educated people...and there are many more colleges, and jobs that have nothing to do with Affirm. Action.

Stop listening to the news... you will only hear a one sided story.

LASTLY...HISTORY IS IMPORTANT for all people. Never ask someone to forget the past. When you say that, you in terms are saying forget who you are....that's not good.

GOD BLESS US ALL! In Jesus Name, AMEN!

Posted by: Shawn at March 17, 2006 6:20 PM

Ok, perhaps I didn't make it clear last time. I do not think that all blacks are helped by affirmative action. I was pointing out that AA is counter-productive because it breeds suspicion and resentment against blacks, who are perceived to have got an unfair break because of it. That was my point with mentioning AA.

And, for the record, if the words in this poem had been spoken by a white man about blacks they would have been classified as racism. Ergo, they are racist comments. The colour of the speaker's skin is immaterial, as is her age. Whether she wrote it herself is open to debate but, again, is immaterial to the fact that they were racist comments.

Read a little history. The founding fathers of the US weren't saints by any means, but they weren't racists either, or at least not white supremacists. Many of them wanted to see slavery abolished. However, forcing the abolition of slavery at that point would yhave seen the infant union fall apart before it even got started. Whether that's good or bad is a debate for another time.

Posted by: Archonix at March 17, 2006 7:30 PM

I'M FROM THE MOTHALAND THAT U FUCKIN REDNECKS PLUNDERED. WHY DO Y'ALL GOTTA HATE ON THE TRUTH HUH?? AND THOSE BITCHES WHO KEPT GOIN ON ABOUT US DOWN HERE , TALKIN BOUT REFUGEE CAMPS N SHIT.. I SAY FUCK U!!! CHRIST! I'M SO FUCKIN PISSED. WHAT DO ANY OF U KNOW ABOUT LIFE DOWN HERE HUH? THOSE LIKE FIRST FIVE COMMENTS WERE REAL SHITTY!!

Posted by: NANA YAW at March 17, 2006 8:25 PM

Damn Archonix! Come on! How can you say that if a white man recited a poem about Blacks then they would be considered racist. You are comparing apples and oranges. Please stop saying that her poem was racist. Please read it more thoroughly. She was talking about the history of white people in this country from acertain time period and how it affects today. Also, how can you fix your lips to say that our founding fathers were not white supremists or racist. That statement is an example of the whole story not being told in school and the only thing you hear about are their battles and wars and how great they were. You need to read a little history far beyond what you learned in school.

Posted by: Earl at March 17, 2006 10:56 PM

all of you on this site need to go to church and relax. you gotta realize that race is an issue made up to describe those that look different. in the world today, so much stock is put into the idea of "race" but what does it mean? nothing. what about the conflicts between northern irish (protestants) and catholic irish? it is the same thing. they call each other dumb and use the same exact words that y'all are using to describe the opposite "races". it is a viscious thing, this idea of race. darwin said that europeans were at the top of the human race, and africans were at the bottom. that is abosolutely ridiculous, but many still think that his ideas apply today, which is even more ridiculous. black, white, brown, blue, purple, handicapped, deaf, blind.....looking different does take the HUMAN out of them. all people are human. race is a made up idea to give the europeans (who looked to africa, india, china, and japan for ideas, techonological advantages, and education) a false idea of superiority.

oh, and the british called the irish poor and stupid monkeys back in the day. people who hate always think that those they hate are inferior. hate also does not discriminate. all people have hatred. and by the way, egyptians were black.

Posted by: just an idea at March 17, 2006 11:36 PM

All racists suck. Period. Racists come in all colors. And they all SUCK. Get it? End of story.

Posted by: nikko at March 18, 2006 12:25 AM

Earl said: "My point is any other nationality knows exactly what they are and where they come from whereas, African Americans had that stripped from them soley by white people. There are over 52 African countries and I have no clue which I am from. "

How about we all call ourselves Pangeans and shut the hell up about it?

Posted by: Pissed at March 18, 2006 12:31 AM

I never said that.

Posted by: Earl at March 18, 2006 12:52 AM

"Damn Archonix! Come on! How can you say that if a white man recited a poem about Blacks then they would be considered racist. You are comparing apples and oranges."

earl, achronix did not say that if a white man recited a poem about blacks it would be called racist. what he said was that if a white person spoke the same words about blacks it would be considered racist, and i think this is a very hard point to argue.

do you really feel there would be no backlash if a 7 year old white kid wrote a poem calling jesse jackson and al sharpton vampires and pirates?

how about if they then asked all non-white students to remain seated while the whites stood and recited a "white child's pledge"?

and moving beyond her poem would'nt it be racist if the same white child said in a newspaper about blacks that "All they do is just steal, rob and murder...that's the only thing they were raised to do."

the point that achronix was trying to make is that if it is racist when a white person says it then it is equally racist when a black person says the same thing.

i guess the basic question is do you agree that the hypotetical situation with the white 7 year old would be labeled by both blacks and lots of whites too as racist? if you don't feel it would be could you please explain why?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 18, 2006 2:47 AM

First off let me say, WOW! I actually read through all of those postings.

I have only a few things to say.

You all had better wake up. All of this racism mess had better come to an end very soon, because if it doesn't? Jesus is going to end it for us. And I don't thing anyone of us can afford to let that happen.

Posted by: akapoetic1 at March 18, 2006 3:52 AM

Earl, we don't learn American history at all in the UK, except beyond the very basics. Everything I learned about US history, I learned for myself from extensive reading. I will not deny that some of the founding fathers were racists, but I reckon you're the one that needs to read up more if you think they were white supremacists. Again, as I said, a lot of the members of the continental congress wanted to see slavery abolished, but they had to abandon the idea out of political and military expediency. Remember, they were trying to gain allies in a war of independence at the time. Without the support of the pro-slavery colonies it's likely the Union would never have been born.

As for the rest... good grief man, are you blind? Or just stupid? As anonymous pointed out, I said that if a white girl recited this poem, but replaced whites with blacks and the names with black historical figures, it would be deemed racist. So why isn't it deemed racist now? Hypocritical much?

Posted by: Archonix at March 18, 2006 6:46 AM

First off, those Black people that you mentioned are called much worst than vampires and devils on a daily basis. Do you listen to the Limbaughs and Hannitys. Most of the high profile African Americans in the community are attacked verbally every day so no, the Black community would not be up in arms. The media says all Blacks do is steal, rob and murder all the time. Please understand that as Blacks we are conditioned to brush the negativity off because if we got upset about everything we would go crazy. Also, it's amazing how White people want us to just get over everything. When Diallo was murdered people were mad at Sharpton because he stood up, during the civil rights era when King stood up they called him a terrorist and did ungodly things to him, when Shabazz (most of you call him X) stood up the FBI and the rest of the White community spewed hatred, when Eleanor Bumpers was murdered the White cops that killed her disgustingl said it was her fault. I can go on and on just off the top of my head and inform you about these injustices but I won't. My point is, that the African American community always has to "get over it." You can't compare the two. Where is the injustice to the White community?

Archonix, you are absolutely right when you say that not all the founding fathers were racist, but most of them were. And yes, they are the epitome of white supremists. I will not divert that fact. In your readings about US history; did you read publications by Black authors? If you did, was it an equal amount compared to publications by White people? Probably not.

Also, notice I did not imply that you are stupid or anything like that.

Posted by: Earl at March 18, 2006 9:49 AM

Archonix,

Do YOU listen to the Limbaugh's and Hannity's? Obviously not, they never call black people devils or anything of the like, ever! The media says all blacks do is steal? What media are you listening to? If you did listen to Hannity, etc., you'd know that he has had countless black guests on the right and left side of the political aisle and he treats them all with respect equally!
The thing some black people don't understand about white people is that 99% are color-blind. It's the 1% of whites that are racists that some seem to focus on.
I couldn't care less what color someone is. Like MLK said, "judge me by the content of my character". The problem is, character is lacking these days. All you people posting on this site, black and white show a total lack of character!!!!

Posted by: Ken at March 18, 2006 9:40 PM

My last posted was directed at Earl, not Archonix, sorry.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 18, 2006 9:41 PM

I pity the soul of this little girl. A girl who obviously has the intelligence to succeed in the future but will be so filled with hate that it will probably sabotage that future success. She's like the antithesis of Condolezza Rice.
I hope her father is happy he's turned his little girl into a hater of people she has never met.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 18, 2006 9:48 PM

I believe the little girl called it like she saw it.

Who is to deny that through out history and through out time every where the white man goes is basically death and destruction.

And they are now to this day still trying to erase this part of America's history, it is so politically inncorrect to speak about race and slavery for that matter.

Let me tell you, it is what it is white people owned slaves! they got free labor! slaves never where on the same equal playing field or commpensated! they got less because they were "colored" and lazy white people who can't even clean their own house are still reaping the benefits and they have accumulated not money, but wealth and the same money white people are spending to this day are from their great, great grand daddies and mommies who pimped great, great grand slave mommies and daddies.

IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN and the white people today will never face it because the situation is deep and embarrassing and they will do anything in their wicked little power to keep it because they have become so accustomed to privelage. You can't deny it, IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, it is not racist it is the truth!

How would you feel if your history and culture were totally obliterated and your left with leftovers, your traditional meals consist of fried chicken and pork. to all benefit the upliftment of white people. And you have become the mules now of a society that you have built and to which you can't get the same piece of because you are kissed by the sun.

If you ask me its just pure jealousy. White people are just a watered down version of a darker people. They are lacking, they are not earthly, they are not creative, they just steal everything from brown people. If it wasn't for brown people they would have starved and died off when they first LANDED here, and to be quite honest they should have. They can't live with us they have a great disdain for us, to be quite honest they should be the ones to go back from where they came from and that is from the caves, the cold, that is were they were dwelling. And they looked down on us from their dark caves, dark ages and seen the brown people all colorful, and creative and beautiful and full of light and thriving without the overuse of the earth.

Anyway I can go on for days but its still going on. IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

I love this little girl for this poem, because it shows me that the next generation coming up won't be taking no bribes and that a change is brewing. Teach the Little ones.

Posted by: asha at March 19, 2006 12:28 AM

I believe the little girl called it like she saw it.

Who is to deny that through out history and through out time every where the white man goes is basically death and destruction.

And they are now to this day still trying to erase this part of America's history, it is so politically inncorrect to speak about race and slavery for that matter.

Let me tell you, it is what it is white people owned slaves! they got free labor! slaves never where on the same equal playing field or commpensated! they got less because they were "colored" and lazy white people who can't even clean their own house are still reaping the benefits and they have accumulated not money, but wealth and the same money white people are spending to this day are from their great, great grand daddies and mommies who pimped great, great grand slave mommies and daddies.

IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN and the white people today will never face it because the situation is deep and embarrassing and they will do anything in their wicked little power to keep it because they have become so accustomed to privelage. You can't deny it, IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, it is not racist it is the truth!

How would you feel if your history and culture were totally obliterated and your left with leftovers, your traditional meals consist of fried chicken and pork. to all benefit the upliftment of white people. And you have become the mules now of a society that you have built and to which you can't get the same piece of because you are kissed by the sun.

If you ask me its just pure jealousy. White people are just a watered down version of a darker people. They are lacking, they are not earthly, they are not creative, they just steal everything from brown people. If it wasn't for brown people they would have starved and died off when they first LANDED here, and to be quite honest they should have. They can't live with us they have a great disdain for us, to be quite honest they should be the ones to go back from where they came from and that is from the caves, the cold, that is were they were dwelling. And they looked down on us from their dark caves, dark ages and seen the brown people all colorful, and creative and beautiful and full of light and thriving without the overuse of the earth.

Anyway I can go on for days but its still going on. IT IS WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

I love this little girl for this poem, because it shows me that the next generation coming up won't be taking no bribes and that a change is brewing. Teach the Little ones.

Posted by: asha at March 19, 2006 12:30 AM

earl, you did'nt answer the question (i posted as anonymous earlier). regardless of whether blacks are told to "get over it" constanly or not, regardless of how your thoughts of how blacks are discussed on talk radio programs, would the hypothetical situation i set up with the 7 year old white child be percieved as racist?

the points you raised about diallo, bumpers, hannity, etc. all seem designed to shift the dialouge away from a question you are unable to answer.


Posted by: alex at March 19, 2006 3:07 AM

earl, you did'nt answer the question (i posted as anonymous earlier). regardless of whether blacks are told to "get over it" constanly or not, regardless of your thoughts on how blacks are discussed on talk radio programs, would the hypothetical situation i set up with the 7 year old white child be percieved as racist?

the points you raised about diallo, bumpers, hannity, etc. all seem designed to shift the dialouge away from a question you are unable to answer.


Posted by: alex at March 19, 2006 3:07 AM

asha, it needs to be pointed out to you that wherever man of any race has gone there has been death and destruction regardless of the color of their skin. additionally you seem to think that whites are the only race who have ever owned slaves, hate to break it to you but slavery was all the rage in africa before whites ever showed up. furthermore blacks are hardly the only group of people to have been persecuted in this world, balcks don't even hold the top spot. and your percieved persecution in these days is very low on the totem pole.

your assertion that whites are still living off the proceeds of stolen labor is hardly true across the board. sure there are probably some old southern famlies who this applies to, but what about the europeans who arrived after slavery? and what about lower income whites?

Posted by: alex at March 19, 2006 3:28 AM

First of all I have been listening to Hannity since 9 4 when he was on WGST in Atlanta. I bet you did not know that about him. Secondly, so what he had Black people on his show. What does that have to do with anything? He is still a part of the media machine that does everything I mentioned in that post. I notice you did not defend Limbaugh.

Also, I did answer your question about the scenario. What didn't you understand? It's funny you think you are holding me to task about a made up scenario, but when the Black community holds you to task about facts then we are being inflammatory or are told to get over it.

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 9:42 AM

Earl,

Give me one example of Hannity OR Limbaugh saying that "all Blacks do is steal, rob and murder all the time".
You are completely blinded with hate for white people, it's obvious by reading your tripe.
The majority of black Americans are looking forward to positive things they can attain by participating in today's economy. Why do people like you keep looking back to negative things when the opportunity is there to succeed long term as a people. Your own hatred is what keeps you down.

Posted by: Ken at March 19, 2006 11:00 AM

Thank you for your psychoanalyst of me. Again, if I don't agree with you then I am all of these things. Did I not tell you that I have been listening to Hannity since 94, way before 99% of you all? He never said those things in particular, however, the media as a whole says those things every damn day! Please don't get me started on Limbaugh. I would be on here all night. And yes, Hannity and Limbaugh participate in those views with their stance on alot of things. Also, if you really knew me you would not I don't hate, as a matter of fact I seek the truth. Also, here is another one for you to chew on. Though when people see me they would lbel me African American, however, I have Honduras and Ireland running through my veins. I'm not talking generations back either. Please read my posts and tell me where at any point I represented hate. You won't be able to. Look at it objectively and you will see that I only pointed out the truth. NEVER once did I lie! If you can show me where I lied then feel free. Don't be angry with me because I know the truth and will continue to seek it as well as point it out.

Actually, enough is enough. This is my last post on the matter. I will agree to disagree but I will leave you with this. Please seek the truth. Not the truth as our history books tell it, but the truth from an objective mind. Put yourselves in the shoe of the other person and you might see things differently. This American history of ours being told my White Americans will only benefit White Americans. It won't be objective. That's why no matter how many times you interview for jobs the most difficult question to answer is when they ask you for your weaknesses. It's not because you don't have any, but most people don't look at themselves objectively. Also, you always want to present yourself in a positive light. It truly is human nature.

Peace and love to all of you. Let us seek and admit the truth from all angles so that we can move on. It will truly make things better, if not for our generation then for the ones after.

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 11:37 AM

Oh yeah, look at my previous posts. You will see that there is nobody keeping me down. I do quite well actually.

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 11:40 AM

earl i went back to your response and did'nt feel i got much of an answer, so humor me and just give me a yes/no answer would the poem be considered racist if it was written by a white person about blacks?

and if you want an example of you representing hatred? how about your little comment on the yacub theory being valid?

Posted by: alex at March 19, 2006 3:48 PM

If it were truth then no it would not be racist. If it were false then yes it would be racist. Also, I never validated Yacub's Theory. Do you not understand sarcasm? Please reread the text in which it was said. Take it word for word then put it in text with everything else that was said and then you SHOULD conclude that it was sarcasm. No, I do not believe in Yacub's Theory!

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 5:40 PM

Also, look at all those posts before that one with people barating me calling me stupid and telling me to back to Africa and calling the little girl a bitch. Why didn't you come to my defense? Why didn't you come to the little girl's defense?

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 5:46 PM

Earl,

Please do get started on Limbaugh because you know you're full of it. He never speaks in hateful terms. HE speaks the truth about what is going on in the country and sometimes the truth hurts.
I will be happy to "Put myself in the shoe of the other person and I might see things differently."
But I ask that you put yourself in my shoes (lower middle-class white trying to raise a family in an unsafe city with bills out the ying-yang and accepting no help.

Posted by: Ken at March 19, 2006 5:47 PM

That's funny. Those are the same exact shoes I'm in, except I'm not white!

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 9:06 PM

Also, despite all of that we are doing pretty well. If you like Rush then I know we won't see eye to eye. No need to rehash. Peace brother.

Posted by: Earl at March 19, 2006 9:08 PM

yes,black is beautiful and tan is grand,but white is still the color of the big boss man.

Posted by: billfry at March 19, 2006 10:40 PM

earl, if your assertion is that as long as what is being spoken is the truth it is not racist i can except that as an answer. but i was thinking more along the lines of the everyday world where people of ALL races are somewhat overly sensitive and are quick to play the race card whenever it is possible or convienient.

as far as why i did'nt come to your defense when you were being attacked, i did'nt really feel it was my duty, you don't seem to have any problem defending yourself anyway. i've done my part by keeping things totally polite with you and you've reciprocated. the reason i don't defend the little girl is that i find the little girl, her father, the poem, and their comments in the media indefensible. i can understand that some people are upset by it to the point where they call a 7 year old girl a bitch, it's not my style, but thats sometimes how the world is. and anyway when you make inflamatory statements in public there are often reprocussions.

Posted by: alex at March 20, 2006 12:24 AM

Alex, I like your style. Keep up the positivity. I understand why some people play the race card. The media has done a fantastic job at keeping us seperate and looking at each other untrustingly.

Posted by: Earl at March 20, 2006 8:23 AM

Tammy Bruce, The Lesbian Reagan Consevative Pro-Gun, Pro-Choice Author and Radio Show talk Hostess wrote in one of her books "When Victimhood is your Empowerment Recovery is The Enemy." At one time or another on this earth every race and creed has been enslaved and exploited. The sooner Black Americans or any other group get over this Victim mentality the sooner their lives will be better, So am I to believe once Black Americans are dispensed their reparations $$$$$ I will no longer see or hear any Black Americans car-jacking, murdering, robbing, etc. or even not griping about how much of a victim they still are?

Posted by: Bryherb at March 20, 2006 10:34 AM

^^^^^^
See what I mean guys?

Posted by: Earl at March 20, 2006 11:50 AM

>>This little girl and her family should be exterminated...

I understand not being in ageement with what she is saying (being told to say) but comments like this only prove her point.

Posted by: Terri at March 20, 2006 1:10 PM

Well.. . . The little girl may have had some help from her parents, but im pretty sure it was ALL HER IDEA. She's telling the truth and its hurting you white racist people.

That shows you the power of a black girls knowledge, which MOST of you "paris hilton" acting, closed minded,lazy, idea stealing, bigots lack. Just because you know more than 6 porn sites doesnt make you Bill Gates . .

Read your history, we were going back to Africa, but our leader was killed while in a "conference" with YOUR people. so we had to stay . . . since you want us to "go back to Africa" so badly BLAME YOUR PEOPLE for making us stay. . better yet . . for even bringing us here, because you all were too lazy to do your own lawn work.

White men: your wives were the original streetwalkers and whores, you had to rape black women, to even know what a real woman felt like.

White women use to fuck black men all of the time, because "jim bob" was too busy fucking "billy ray" in the shed. .

if you hate our skin color, our venacular, our style, our music, our lips, our asses, . .

STOP SPENDING ALL OF YOUR "GOVERNEMENT FUNDING" a.k.a. "WELFARE" ON BREAST IMPLANTS,LIP INJECTIONS,ASS ENHANCERS AND AIR BRUSHED TANS!!

while your doing that, tell little Bobby he has to throw away all of his eminem, 50 cent, jay-z, snoop dogg, and pharrell cds. ALSO, throw away those skate boards and name brand skate gear cause its all going "black" ..

tell little ashley to tear down her usher, b2k and justin timberlake posters down. also, block Dora the Explorer and Thats So Raven from her television. dont forget to break ALL of her Destiny's Child, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys, Gwen Stefani, Kelly Clarkson, and Pussycat Dolls cds.

Dont forget to throw away dads Ray cds and cancel his subscription to GQ magazine cause thats also gon "black". .

You think YOUR right, but your wrong ALL OF THE TIME. . .

Posted by: Cameron Johanason at March 20, 2006 2:21 PM

....ARE YA FEELIN' THE "VICTIMHOOD" HERE FOLKS? I'M NOT A BOGOT OR A RACIST, I JUDGE PEOPLE BY HOW WELL THEY PRONOUNCE THE WORD "ASK"

Posted by: Bryherb at March 20, 2006 4:54 PM

....ARE YA FEELIN' THE "VICTIMHOOD" HERE FOLKS? I'M NOT A BOGOT OR A RACIST, I JUDGE PEOPLE BY HOW WELL THEY PRONOUNCE THE WORD "ASK"

Posted by: Bryherb at March 20, 2006 4:59 PM

....I AM A DOUBLE POSTER THOUGH. SORRY, AND THAT'S BIGOT.

Posted by: Bryherb at March 20, 2006 5:00 PM

Don't worry she'll be leeching on whites once she turns 14 and starts spitting out her little black piglets. Typical of her she'll blame whites and her stupidity will be blamed on us too. You could just imagine the hysteria though if she was white talking bad about blacks but lets face it, she's got the carte negro so she's got a freepass to do or say anything. And I do remember a certain twins that the media has gone apeshit over the Gaede twins and their band "prussian blue" I think. Didn't some anti-racist idiot come out and say that the twins should be taken away from their mother on account of the beliefs they hold. I see the same anti-racist piece of crap didn't crawl out from under his flat stone to say similar over this little black piglet. Ahhh equality, nothing like it. Non-white good, White bad.

Posted by: Andre at March 20, 2006 5:23 PM

I don't judge a person by the color of their skin. I "DO" judge them by the thickness of their lips and the size of their nostrils. That ungrateful black chimpanzee deserves to have her "government cheese" supply stopped, and then dragged behind a pickup truck along side her useless pappy! Thanks to the B.S. spewed by this little "monkey in man-pants", I can understand why lynching was so popular. Lets hope that the little groid gets hit by a bus and backed over. Or,...put her and her whole "herd" on a slow, leaky boat and send them "half-way" back to Africa......in "chains". Just the way they were brought here.

Posted by: Spike at March 20, 2006 5:53 PM

About half of the U.S. African American population is mentally retarded by our standards. What did you expect to her from this thing?

Posted by: Tim at March 20, 2006 6:01 PM

...SPIKE, ABOUT THAT DIATRIBE,IF YOU'RE BLACK, YOU'D BE A FANTASTIC RAP ARTIST/BEAT POETRY JAMSTER!, BUT IF YER WHITE, YOU'RE A RACIST.

Posted by: Bryherb at March 20, 2006 6:09 PM

I can see her resume under language skills.

Eye's be truahlingual eye's no Engwish, Ebonix and Jive.

Posted by: Andre at March 20, 2006 6:11 PM

Plain and simple for all of you "people" there is a double standard in the west now...minorities can have marches and speak all they wish about Euros, While at the same time "here in canada" if you as a european decendant say ANYTHING aggainst Jews or blacks....you WILL be imprisioned.

And as far as "white privilege" Thats because Our ancestors came here with nothing and worked and bled and fought for this land for 400 years+ now The decendants of those toilers can enjoy "somewhat" the comforts of all that sacrafice.....

Who sold slaves to the slavers????
what is the percentage of freed slaves who themselves became slave owners, in comparison to the euro based population??

WHO BUILT THE 1ST JEWISH TEMPLE IN AMERICA?????

Explain why liberia has become such a dismal failure? Considering its "constitution mirrors the american model"

And this white privilege??? I would shure love some of that "being white" I work 50+ hours a week pay rent and am 27 years old have been on my own since I was 14 years old....

Any ways I really believe that there is so much potential in all the subspecies of the human animal, that being said we all evolved slightly different traits to deal with different climates and conditions......
I do not believe in intermingling with other subspecies because we have evolved differences and there make eack of our peoples unique, and perhaps when we start spreading to the stars perhaps the unique traits we each have in our traditional forms can be used to benifit the whole.......Whatever that being said no one should be cross with the child only the parents that planted the seed for skapegoating types of perception....

YOU CAN SAVE YOUR SELF!! NO ONE IS TO BLAME!!

Posted by: PARZIFAL at March 20, 2006 7:16 PM

you guys have gone off the deep end with the last few posts.

to the poster who said he only judges people by how they pronounce the word "ask", you better hope you don't meet anyone who judges others by their spelling of the word "bigot".

as for the rest of you i'm no fan of the little girl, her father or the poem, but this sort of hyperbole where you're trying to make them seem semi-literate is ridiculous. like it or not the little girl, maybe with her father's help but maybe not, wrote a pretty eloquent poem. you may disagree with her, but she seems like she's probably pretty well eduacted and intelligent for a seven year old.

anyway there are real issues to talk about here, there's no need to debase yourselves by saying that "oh when she's 14 she'll be pregnant and on welfare" you guys come off like a bunch of petulant children when you bring nothing to the table but stereotypes and racial slurs, and this applies equally to some of the responses from black posters too. just grow up, stop venting on the internet, and discuss things like adults.

Posted by: alex at March 20, 2006 7:21 PM

That anti-racist idiot didn't come out of his hole because heebs like him are for destroying America. You see, only White's are racist and thats the message the kosher media pushes. This little 7 year old black girl is just parroting words rehearsed over and over again. I'd give her a thousand dollar bill if she could spell "reform" or "paradigm".

Get over it blacks, America was set-up BY White's FOR White's. I agree, we should have sent EVERY SINGLE ONE of you back to Africa as Abe wanted. YOu are not fit to be in our society. You will never alchemize in a White man/woman no matter what silly program liberals dream up. They all have failed in the past.

You need us Whites. We don't need you.

Posted by: alan richards at March 20, 2006 7:37 PM

Why waste your time Alex? Not worth the energy.

Posted by: Earl at March 20, 2006 8:20 PM

Hey Parzifal! Are you the same one in Colorado?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:24 PM

Or Canada?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:27 PM

Did you go to Wytheville Community College? I think that you are the one!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:30 PM

Alan, are you in the Fresno area?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:40 PM

Bryherb, are you from Georgia?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:47 PM

Hey Spike! Are you ending hate and intolerance in Mississippi yet?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:51 PM

You are a fake Spike!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 8:52 PM

I am from Canada......
Toronto the most upside down place in the western world.....

Posted by: parzifal at March 20, 2006 9:22 PM

I figured that was you! You dick!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 20, 2006 9:32 PM

I really DIDNT think this was a forum for slander....

But hey looks god on ya...

Posted by: parzifal at March 20, 2006 9:52 PM

String that jigaboo pigmy up in a cottonwood tree. Then lets see if she still has the same sentiment when the crows are pecking out her eyes.

Posted by: Gloria Vanderhoff at March 20, 2006 10:10 PM

Back to reality now....
We all what ever our beliefs..
The trend of inequality and divide amongst the various "groups " in the west is growing as opposed to diminishing...
BUT not in the way the lefist media is bullhorning about.....It is becoming far to socially correct to demonize the european ancestor of settlers "who gave the comforts we all take for granted"as the cause of all lifes worries..
The real fashists who allow the inequality of such a democratic right of intelligent debate "which could turn to slander but at least it would be equal "
why not allow some young person of european decent to speak about 3rd world mentality and the growing welfare state of non europeans in front of a school????

In many posts this "poem" is called well made or even inspiring.....
It really is not either of these. But it IS another litmus test to the growing inequality of democratic rights, the very ones european settlers toiled so hard for that today we give to whomever can come to the shores of this great continent.

It is a sad thing indeed that young people of colour living in a perpetual self imposed welfare
mentality, can do nothing else but blame others for their own vampirism .
It would be far better for the future of colored "if not all westerners" to cast aside these self defeatist illusiond of "THE MAN" and work that much harder to better our diverse peoples ..

Cheers

Posted by: parzifal at March 20, 2006 10:14 PM

Did someone give the little chimp a banana?

Posted by: Fred Smith at March 20, 2006 10:23 PM

Maybe we are on to something here, the White Natioalists and Black Nationalists are in agreement North America and Europe for Whites and Africa for Blacks. The great multi-racial cult has failed miserably. Lets remove all of the Whites from Africa and ship them to North America and Europe and send all of the Arabs and Blacks to Africa. Also in order to keep the white "vampires" from sucking any of the Black soul all of our technology will be taken out and no food aid from a white nation will be given to the blacks when they are starving.

The only question is the logistics, maybe Carnival will let us use their ships that were used for the Katrina evacuees.

Posted by: Wodener at March 20, 2006 11:19 PM

The black people of the African continent have been enslaving one another for thousands of years. When one tribe conquered a neighboring tribe, they took their defeated enemies as slaves to be used as labor, for sex, or to be sold or traded to other tribes.
This practice existed long before the white man ever engaged in this activity. In fact slavery is still widely practiced in many parts of Africa to this day.
I also find it ironic that the little girls name is (Ashante). The Ashante tribe, native to Ghana were responsible for capturing and selling many of their fellow Africans to slave traders, who then exported them to the Americas and parts of Europe.
I think that the institution of slavery was and is deplorable but one cannot cast all of the blame on the "evil" white man.
Know your history.

Sorry if the truth hurts.

Posted by: Spencer at March 21, 2006 2:59 AM

Parzifal said: And as far as "white privilege" Thats because Our ancestors came here with nothing and worked and bled and fought for this land for 400 years+ now The decendants of those toilers can enjoy "somewhat" the comforts of all that sacrafice.....

If this is not slander then I don't know what is. Please rephrase what you just said. It should go a little something like this: Our ancestors came here a raped and pillaged the land and the people that were already here. Now the decendants of those rapists and pillagers can enjoy "totally" the comforts of all that evil.

Tell the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 8:23 AM

Wodener said: Maybe we are on to something here, the White Natioalists and Black Nationalists are in agreement North America and Europe for Whites and Africa for Blacks. The great multi-racial cult has failed miserably. Lets remove all of the Whites from Africa and ship them to North America and Europe and send all of the Arabs and Blacks to Africa. Also in order to keep the white "vampires" from sucking any of the Black soul all of our technology will be taken out and no food aid from a white nation will be given to the blacks when they are starving.

You are the main reason why having a discussion like this is fruitless. I can take the stupid people and their racist remarks like calling a little girl a bitch or Black people monkey. That just shows retardation. However, when there are people who come across like they are knowledgeable it becomes dangerous. Dangerous because you actually believe that your ancestors are the forefathers of civilization. Let's be totally honest, civilization began on the continent of Africa, let's be honest, the continent is the beginning of the sciences, the arts and mathematics, all of which is necessary for modern technology, let's be honest, you were only taught about accomplishes by White people in your history books and you took it at face value. You were NEVER taught of all the inventions by Black people. There were some they wetre credited for and there were some that were stolen. Let's be honest, your forefathers were cave dwellers(not being racist, just truthful), while the continent of Africa had a flourishing community. Let's just be honest! Go and look for yourself! Why would you want to move Whites to North America? This is not their land! Get that through your damn head man! You are a foreigner here! In your scenario you mentioned something about not sending food. You fucking idiot! Who do you think is responsible for the agriculture here? You are so fucking stupid! Get an education. Stop believing all that you were told. I tell you what. Here is the tip of the iceberg: http://www.black-network.com/inventions.htm Again, that is only a start!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 9:05 AM

http://inquiryunlimited.org/timelines/histAfAm.html

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 9:11 AM

This one is for Spencer: Slavery existed in Africa, but it was not the same type of slavery that the Europeans introduced. The European form was called chattel slavery. A chattel slave is a piece of property, with no rights. Slavery within Africa was different. A slave might be enslaved in order to pay off a debt or pay for a crime. Slaves in Africa lost the protection of their family and their place in society through enslavement. But eventually they or their children might become part of their master's family and become free. This was unlike chattel slavery, in which enslaved Africans were slaves for life, as were their children and grandchildren.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 9:18 AM

We are getting more and more Negro people here in Stockholm (Sverige).

Why is it that they don't bother getting jobs? They simply sign up for social programmes that give them Kronas to get housing, food and medical care and comit crimes. Who needs that?

And when someone doesn't give them what they want or talk to them in a proper way they file complaints with the authorities on charges of racism. From what I have read, this is going on in other parts of Scandinavia as well as Europe proper.

It is a shame this little girl is so full of hatred towards a people, whom without, she wouold likely have been born in the squalor of a dusty Afrikan village with no hope whatsoever.

It appears Negro people can not make a civilized country of their own - they must put on their "poor asylum seeker" mask and beg entry to our nations and once in, help themselves to the bounty of our civilization.

Sorry if that sounds racist but it appears to be true.

Arik Lundersson
Stockholm, Sverige

Posted by: Arik Lundersson at March 21, 2006 11:56 AM

explain to a dumb whitey how calling a little girl a bitch is racist?, also how can you say white people have never been enslaved, the irish were treated like animals for atleast 800 years , the english were convinced that they were somehow related to blacks. most of europe has been enslaved by the roman empire. the north african slave traders raided the coast of most of europe from 1600-1800, snatching away entire villages in the night, like the irish town of baltimore, most people on the coast lived in fear of the black african slave traders, a trade which only ended when european allies invaded north africa forcing them to surrender over 1000 white slaves. historians estimate that over 3.6 million white slaves were kidnapped in that time by barbaric blacks.

Posted by: david brent at March 21, 2006 12:38 PM

Do you deny the truth in the previous posts?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 1:41 PM

Hey Arik, do you read?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 1:44 PM

Who of you are Christian?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 1:49 PM

http://nahright.com/news/2006/03/15/autum-ashante-for-president/

Look at this! Unbelievable!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 2:21 PM

Most of you all are retarded. You negroes should take your black asses to africa and make some improvements, that way us Whites can rebuild America and return it to Its glory.

Ans all you niggers whining about "Whitey" and "slave ships" in the same sentence, do your research! It was jews who owned the slave ships.

Quit looking for a handout and do something.

This White man does not call the cops, I deal with niggers myself, and take care of the "problem"!

Posted by: bob at March 21, 2006 2:26 PM

None of the blacks here have convincincly explained why they don't want to go back to Africa...
You all skirted round the issue, citing 'wounds being too deep' and other such bullshit. We all know the real reason you don't want to go back to Africa - because you know you can't survive without white people - or, to put more accurately, without leeching off of white people.
Which African country is successful? What happened to Zimbabwe? The Congo looks rather nice at this time of year...
You blacks spend all of your time following white people around, wherever we move to, you follow us, because you can't maintain the same standard of living on your own.

So, can any of the blacks here explain WHY they don't want to move back to an African country that has no whites, and therefore, no 'racism'?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 2:36 PM

Anonymous said:
"If you ask me its just pure jealousy. White people are just a watered down version of a darker people. They are lacking, they are not earthly, they are not creative, they just steal everything from brown people. If it wasn't for brown people they would have starved and died off when they first LANDED here, and to be quite honest they should have."

So white people are not "creative", right?

Care to take a look at every single invention ever made in the past two hundred years, and see how many were made by the 'uncreative' white people?
What are you talking about white people starving and dying - I think you'll find that's been happening in Africa continuously for the past hundred years...
Fool.

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 2:39 PM

Anonymous said:
"Let's be totally honest, civilization began on the continent of Africa, let's be honest, the continent is the beginning of the sciences, the arts and mathematics, all of which is necessary for modern technology, let's be honest, you were only taught about accomplishes by White people in your history books and you took it at face value. You were NEVER taught of all the inventions by Black people."

Hmm... could that possibly be because there AREN'T any inventions by black people?
'The continent is the beginning of the sciences, the arts and mathematics'? Oh really? So why are all you turd-worlders desperate to keep living in the 'evil' white man's countries?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 3:00 PM

That's why these conversations are fruitless. You all are too ignorant. It's ok. Again, are any of you Christian?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 3:04 PM

Julie said " fuck u people, if we were face to face i couldnt explain the pain i would make u go thru, u make me embarrassed to be white."

Good argument. Rather like many of the comments by blacks on here "You wouldn't say any of this to my face". What, I wouldn't say "Blacks are far more violent than whites, and that's why we don't want you anywhere near us" to your face? And you'd prove me right by attacking me?

Can't you just feel the irony... (and stupidity).

Most white people are racist. Most white people move away from non-whites whenever possible, at great financial cost to themselves. Why do MOST white people do this if they love 'diversity' so much?
You liberals are living in a fantasy world. And I bet your fantasy world also happens to be at least five miles away from any predominantly non-white area. (Or should that be 'majority minority' area... :-)

Since you think most white people love diversity so much, I take it you'd be happy to give us all a referendum, so we can decide whether we want to stop all immigration?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 3:11 PM

Tom, check this out: http://www.black-network.com/inventions.htm Again, that is only a start!

See how I present facts? That's how an intelligent person proves a point. Never called you a racist name. Again, you are only proving the poem as a true depiction. Also, you probably work with or for a Black person, I bet you won't go to them in their face and spew some of that nonsense. As a matter of fact, you are probably best friends with a Black person. If only he knew this is how you felt. Poor guy.

Check out that website though. It will give you a few of the inventors. Then you need to publicly apologize for being wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 3:14 PM

Well....some might consider my view to be offensive, but too bad.

The question is, what can we do to restore racial harmony to our country? The problem lies in the Negro's desperately low intelligence. With an average IQ of 85, nearly a full standard deviation from the mean, the negro lacks the intellectual wherewithal to succeed in a white society, yet has been led, cruelly and unfairly, to consider itself as on a par with humans. The irony is bitter: the negro is so stupid it doesn't realize how stupid it is. With an IQ of 85, it believes almost anything it is told, including the lie that it is intelligent.

So the negro sees humans living in comfortable homes, driving expensive cars, wearing quality clothes, and not dying of AIDS; and it thinks that, since it is the equal of humans, all those material benefits are somehow its right, too. In short, the negro is discontented because it *expects* more than it *has*. The trick to restoring the happy, smiling "Uncle Remus" negro of yesteryear is thus to manage its expectations.

For example, if I had an IQ of 85, I'd rightly consider it an achievement to hold down a job as a janitor. However, I know this because I have an IQ between 128 and 140, depending on which IQ test you choose to believe. If I really did have an IQ of 85, I'd be far too stupid to realize that I was doing well to hold that job down, unless somebody told me so.

Similarly, the negro who rapes a baby to cure his AIDS should be applauded, not condemned, because he's started out on the evolutionary path that leads to cognitive intelligence. What appears to us to be a gross sexual crime is, in fact, the distant ancestor of abstract thought. 50,000 years ago, humans were as dumb as Negroes are now; surely we should cut them a little slack and not judge them by the standards we set ourselves? You wouldn't expect a dog to drive a car; you wouldn't expect a chimpanzee to perform brain surgery; and you can't expect a negro to display any moral awareness. Admittedly, applauding this behavior will accelerate the spread of AIDS, but to die of disgusting and interesting diseases is part of the negro's birthright and heritage.

We should thus focus our efforts, as a society, on applauding the most minor negro accomplishments, reminding it what a dim bulb it is, and emphasizing that it's material lifestyle is proportionate to it's IQ. It should be happy with whatever it has, however little that is, because it's too dim to merit more. Thus, an African negro has an IQ of 55 to 60 and drinks water that has been pissed and shit in. An American negro has an IQ of 85 and gets to drink clean water, the same as humans drink. Who's better off? Why, the latter, clearly, because of it's higher IQ. The message to the discontented urban negro is: it could be worse.

Only when the negro forgets its preposterous dreams of getting a college degree on its own intellectual merits, or of holding down any other than a menial job, will there be racial harmony. There can be no more quota negro doctors until they evolve past belief in the "Evil Eye". There must be no more quota negro airline pilots until there is an African aerospace industry.

They'll be happier, we'll be happier, and best of all, my shoes will be shinier!


Posted by: Jake the Snake at March 21, 2006 3:17 PM

Earl said "There are over 52 African countries and I have no clue which I am from."

That's probably because you don't know who your father is...
And he didn't know who his father was, etc.etc.

But please! Take all your 'inventions' back to Africa when you go. How will us poor stupid white people possibly manage without them?

Why do blacks hate Africa so much? Could it possibly be because it's full of other blacks?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 3:18 PM

"The share of young black men without jobs has climbed relentlessly, with only a slight pause during the economic peak of the late 1990’s. In 2000, 65 percent of black male high school dropouts in their 20’s were jobless—that is, unable to find work, not seeking it or incarcerated. By 2004, the share had grown to 72 percent, compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts. Even when high school graduates were included, half of black men in their 20’s were jobless in 2004, up from 46 percent in 2000.

Incarceration rates climbed in the 1990’s and reached historic highs in the past few years. In 1995, 16 percent of black men in their 20’s who did not attend college were in jail or prison; by 2004, 21 percent were incarcerated. By their mid-30’s, 6 in 10 black men who had dropped out of school had spent time in prison.

In the inner cities, more than half of all black men do not finish high school.

None of the litany of problems that young black men face was news to a group of men from the airless neighborhoods of Baltimore who recently described their experiences.

One of them, Curtis E. Brannon, told a story so commonplace it hardly bears notice here. He quit school in 10th grade to sell drugs, fathered four children with three mothers, and spent several stretches in jail for drug possession, parole violations and other crimes.

“I was with the street life, but now I feel like I’ve got to get myself together,” Mr. Brannon said recently in the row-house flat he shares with his girlfriend and four children. “You get tired of incarceration.”

Ain't 'die-versity' wonderful?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 3:22 PM

Why do you hate Europe? Again, this is not your home. You are a foreigner here. My Indian ancestors are the natives not you.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 3:27 PM

I don't know not one person who is a high school dropout, a drug dealer, or in prison. Who are you talking about? Penis envy is a motherfucker!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 3:30 PM

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Disproves your point...

"Again, you are only proving the poem as a true depiction. Also, you probably work with or for a Black person, I bet you won't go to them in their face and spew some of that nonsense."

I don't work for a black person. 99.9% of the people in Europe don't work with or for a black person. It's only in America that you've got 'affirmative action'...
But nice of you to confirm what I've been saying - even YOU think black people are habitually violent and will attack you for merely saying "I don't like black people because they are violent". Can't you see the irony?

"As a matter of fact, you are probably best friends with a Black person."

Yes, of course, how stupid of me! I must remember to stop being friends with 'Hakwame" or whatever dumbass name you use now.
"As a matter of fact"? What a stupid phrase to use when engaging in pure conjecture!


"If only he knew this is how you felt. Poor guy."

Yes, 'poor guy'.
Perhaps you'll explain why most white people who can afford to (99% of them) move AWAY from non-whites as soon as possible...

"Check out that website though. It will give you a few of the inventors. Then you need to publicly apologize for being wrong."

You need to publicly apologise for being wrong then, as my website proves you wrong, fool.

Why is Africa a hellhole?
Why aren't white people emigrating to Africa to 'share in the diversity'? Why do you blacks keep following us whites around, and ruining our countries?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 3:45 PM

"Why do you hate Europe? Again, this is not your home. You are a foreigner here. My Indian ancestors are the natives not you."

Is Africa a hellhole or not?
Is Europe? I think not. You know it isn't. Why would that be? What's the difference between Europe and Africa? Could it be the people who live there, by any chance?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 4:02 PM

"I don't know not one person who is a high school dropout, a drug dealer, or in prison. Who are you talking about? Penis envy is a motherfucker!"

Good argument.
So because YOU allegedly don't know one person who is a high school dropout, a drug dealer, or in prison, the figures I quoted aren't true? (And you forgot to mention the RACE of the people you know...)

Why do most white people spend a fortune to move away from non-whites, since "we're all the same", right?

And can you stop posting under my name, cretin? Oh, the irony...

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 21, 2006 4:07 PM

Face the facts, NIGGERS! Your race are a failed race because you're a feckless, unruly, uncivilised horde of feral proto-humans. You never figured out how to live in a society larger than one or two squabbling families. Starting thousands of years ago, everyone else on this planet without exception did. They invented religion, the idea of law, and the ideas of property and respect for the value of human life. This enabled tribes to coalesce into bigger groups and become organised. The rest is history, or rather civilisation. But your lot never did this, did they? Abstract thought and problem solving have never been the black man's strengths, have they? Did blacks invent a long-lived and intellectually coherent religion? Nope! Did blacks ever build a city? No! Did they even invent bricks? No! (the reason there's no Stonehenge in Africa is because it took more than 20 people to move the slabs of rock, clearly a non-starter in Africa, where assembling more than 20 niggers normally results in a war.) Did they till the land? No! Did they domesticate an animal for their use? No! Did they invent a written language? No! Did they invent the wheel? No! Were they curious enough about what lay out across the sea to sail upon it? No! And blacks are the only "humans", so-called, on this planet of which all this is true. Eskimos are more technically advanced than blacks were, despite the handicap of having no raw materials to work with other than dead fish and snow.

Posted by: Kyle at March 21, 2006 5:38 PM

It is slander to recognise all the HARD WORK of the pioneer ancestors of present day westerners????

anon. you are either COMPLETLY BLIND or stupid......

And the roots of the wests agriculture is based on negros......thats laughable , more like eastern euro immigrants, and they had no slaves.
Where slaves were used profit was for cash crops...blame the ROTHSTEIN international banker zionists for that

Anon. your "facts" are as TRANSPERANT AS YOU ARE..
And also as far as my ancestors raping and murder....look not to the mote in my eye for truly there is a beam in your own....the native tribes of north america were butchering and raping each other LONG BEFORE WE CAME..........

And as fare as eastern canada goes.....There are northern euro settlements in Newfoundland and nova scotia that are more then 1500 years old

Also more unearthed evidence is showing that we may have been here much longer..
Oddly enough where there is evedence of "native" tribes having higher tech, they have also been unearthing euro skeletons in those areas....but I suppose thats just a fluke....I am not speaking from a lack of knoledge I grew up near a indian reserve.

and afrika as a base of "culture" thats laughable...where is there even 1 country that is both majority negroid and prosperous?????

In history

Chaldea.."aryan persian
egypt....persian type genome
greece..euro
rome...euro

and we know the rest since......where is there any afro state or culture that is successful??

I am not saying it is impossible we live in a world of boundless possibilities, I am saying If it EVER happened it was in pre recorded history


Posted by: parzifal at March 21, 2006 5:56 PM

Are any of you Christians?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 6:28 PM

All very good points Kyle, Although Blacks did not invent the wheel they used the concept of the cuisinart and applied to the hub cab and thus the "SpreWell" was born along with Bling! All I can say is WWBCD? (What Would Bill Cosby Do?)

Posted by: Bryherb at March 21, 2006 7:00 PM

Those international banker zionists are actually
ROTHCHILD NOT rothstein

my mistake

Posted by: parzifal at March 21, 2006 8:21 PM

Again, are any of you Christians? Why can't I get an answer to this question?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 10:12 PM

Bryherb, are you from Georgia?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 21, 2006 10:14 PM

READ THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER. NOTICE THE DIVIDE AND CONQUER. WHILE THE PEOPLE FIGHT. THE ELITISTS CARRY ON WITH THEIR PLAN.

NEVER IN HISTORY HAS THERE EVER BEEN SUCH A DEEP AND DEVESTATING FORM OF SLAVERY THAN WHAT THEY CALL "AMERICA". IT RIPPLES THROUGH GENERATIONS THAT EXISTED BEFORE AND IT WILL RIPPLE AFTER. THE PEOPLE ARE SO MIXED UP THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW AT ONE TIME THEIR FAMILIES NAMES WASN'T JONES, SMITH, JAMES.

I HAVE GREAT DISDAIN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT WE ARE STILL NOT FEELING THE EFFECTS TODAY. YOU CAN NEVER COMPARE THE SLAVERY BETWEEN AFRICANS OR OTHER GROUPS TO WESTERN SLAVERY. CAN YOU IMAGINE TODAY YOU, YOUR BABY, YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR GRANDFATHER, YOUR GRANDMOTHER, YOUR AUNT AND YOUR UNCLE, ALL SEPERATED, ALL WORKING IN THE HOUSE, IN THE FIELD, NO COMPENSATION, FOR FREE. AND THEN WHEN THEY TAKE THE CHAINS OFF, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY PYCHOLOGICALLY F..ED WITH YOUR MIND, YOU CARRY ON THE TRADITIONS, YOU MISTREAT EACH OTHER AND YOURSELVES, YOU CAN'T OWN LAND W/O A FIGHT, CAN'T EAT AT THE SAME TABLE AND THEN JUSTIFYING WITH YOU ARE INFERIOR, YOU ARE DARK, YOU ARE DUMB. AND THEN YOU CAN'T GO AND EDUCATE YOURSELF. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. GREAT INJUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED BEFORE TO FORGET. NEVER LET THEM FORGET, THEY HAVE YET TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THEN SOME FOOLS ON THIS WEBSITE SAY "STOP BLAMING THE WHITE MAN" TURN THE OTHER CHEEK SO YOU CAN GET SLAPPED FROM THE OTHER SIDE. WHITE MAN BEEN LIVING SO GOOD OFF OF OUR BACKS FOR A LONG TIME....

OH AND BY THE WAY THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE AS "AFRICAN AMERICAN", I REFUSE TO CALL MYSELF THAT.

"GO BACK TO AFRICA" YEAH I WILL AS SOON AS I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT MY ANCENSTORS FOUGHT FOR. AND THEN I AM GONNA TAKE THAT BACK TO AFRICA AND BUILD THERE. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING CHASING A DREAM AND STILL BUILDING UP WHITE AMERICA.

BUT WHERE IS THE NATIVE AMERICAN GONNA GO BACK TO? THE RESERVATION.

Posted by: asha at March 22, 2006 12:35 AM

THIS IS A RACE WAR PEOPLE. LOOK TO IRAQ, THERE THE WHITE MAN GO AGAIN. DECLARING WAR ON ALL THE BROWN PEOPLES OF THE EARTH. GONNA TRY AND COLONIZE AND CIVILIZE THE PEOPLE. AND TAKE ALL OF THEIR GOODIES.

I TELL YOU AMERICANS ARE JUST HOW THEY LIKE THEM CLUELESS AND IGNORANT, THEY KNOW NOTHING OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM AND A MAJORITY CAN'T EVEN READ A MAP.

Posted by: ASHA at March 22, 2006 12:42 AM

To Tom Sawyer , Have you ever heard of garret a morgan, google this,. Have you ever heard of George Washginton Caver, have you ever heard of graville woods, have you ever Heard of Dainel hale williams. these are a few black invetors and Scientist . Let me educate you and the rest of the white peolpe on here because most of you are ignorant and I can help but to teach you something since I have the time. And I DARE YOU TO CHALLENGE
ME BUT HAVE YOUR FACTS RIGHT Because this BLACK MAN IS VERY INTELLIGENT. I will make you look like a fool. Any way Dainel Hale willams Performed the first open heart surgery. Garret A Morgan invented the SPOT LIGHT. ,and some of you dummies say that you have done with out black people. Graville Woods perfected the telegraph. You should know what Geogrge Washginton Carver invented if you like penut butter. I'll be back to correct more of your errors . I know you white people dislike a smart Black Man like my self, but hey you have to deal with it.

Posted by: Bab at March 22, 2006 2:15 AM

To Carrie M. "THAT is why I say there is beginning to be a huge backlash against blacks. I can see it in these comments. People are getting fed up with doing so much to help the black community, but inevitably being called racist and blamed for their problems." This is what you said correct. Now my thing is that you cant persecute a Commuinty For 400yrs and think its going to be end over night. This is through slavery (which is over ,but the effects of it still linger), reconstruction, the civl right era, contilipro(goolge this if you dont know what i'm speaking of) (CRACK in our commuinties (black dont own boats it been proven that the F.B.I had Something to do with this), Police brutailty (drving while black), Poor Schools( black students starting way behind white ones . I know this because I go to a all white college and I came from the "the inner city"), Lack of justice in our court systems ,Racism in the home buying process.) Now I dont think that every white person is a racsit ,but it's being to sound like white minimize our issues while asserting that we "cant get over the past" when are whites going to admit that these things are REAL. Can you answer that?

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 3:45 AM

To Tom Sayer , these Are all of the Black invetors that you said didnt exsit, I think we would have been fine in Africa, Dont you?

1. There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system.

2. There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mils, a black man, invented the elevator, and without it, one finds great difficulty reaching higher floors.

3. There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the automatic gearshift, Joseph Gambol, also black, invented the Super Charge System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett A. Morgan, a black man, invented the traffic signals.

4. Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its procurer was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man, Albert R. Robinson.

5. Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.

6. There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purveys invented the fountain pen, and Lee Barrage invented the Type Writing Machine and W. A. Love invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all, you guessed it, Black.

7. Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purveys invented the Hand Stamp and Philip Downing invented the Letter Drop.

8. The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower.

9. When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace. Their homes were also dim. But of course, Lewis Later invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey invented the lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut off Switch. Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the Mop and Lloyd P. Ray the Dust Pan.

10. Their children met them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and unkempt. But what could one expect? Jan E. Matzelinger invented the Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons invented the Comb, Sarah Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the Clothes Dryer.

11. Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another Black Man, John Standard invented the refrigerator.

PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 4:05 AM

Pan-Africanism - hilarious stuff.

"Invented by Garrett A. Morgan in 1923? No!

The first known traffic signal appeared in London in 1868 near the Houses of Parliament. Designed by JP Knight, it featured two semaphore arms and two gas lamps. The earliest electric traffic lights include Lester Wire's two-color version set up in Salt Lake City circa 1912, James Hoge's system (US patent #1,251,666) installed in Cleveland by the American Traffic Signal Company in 1914, and William Potts' 4-way red-yellow-green lights introduced in Detroit beginning in 1920. New York City traffic towers began flashing three-color signals also in 1920.

Garrett Morgan's cross-shaped, crank-operated semaphore was not among the first half-hundred patented traffic signals, nor was it "automatic" as is sometimes claimed, nor did it play any part in the evolution of the modern traffic light. For details see Inventing History: Garrett Morgan and the Traffic Signal."


"Alexander Miles in 1887? No!
Was Miles the first to patent a self-closing shaft door? No!

Steam-powered hoisting devices were used in England by 1800. Elisha Graves Otis' 1853 "safety elevator" prevented the car from falling if the cable broke, and thus paved the way for the first commercial passenger elevator, installed in New York City's Haughwout Department Store in 1857. The first electric elevator appeared in Mannheim, Germany in 1880, built by the German firm of Siemens and Halske. A self-closing shaft door was invented by J.W. Meaker in 1874 ("Improvement in Self-closing Hatchways," US Patent No. 147,853). See Elevator Timeline"

"Richard Spikes in 1932? No!

The first automatic-transmission automobile to enter the market was designed by the Sturtevant brothers of Massachusetts in 1904. US Patent #766551 was the first of several patents on their gearshift mechanism. Automatic transmission technology continued to develop, spawning hundreds of patents and numerous experimental units; but because of cost, reliability issues and an initial lack of demand, several decades passed before vehicles with automatic transmission became common on the roads."

"Did Granville Woods invent the electric trolley car, the overhead wire that powers it, or the "troller" wheel that makes contact with the trolley wire, in 1888? No!

Dr. Werner von Siemens demonstrated his electric trolleybus, the Elektromote, near Berlin on April 29, 1882. The vehicle's two electric motors collected power through contact wheels rolling atop a pair of overhead wires. The earliest patentee of an electric trolley in the United States appears to be Eugene Cowles (#252193 in 1881), followed by Dr. Joseph R. Finney (#268476 in 1882) who operated an experimental trolley car near Pittsburgh, PA in the summer of 1882. In early 1885, John C. Henry established in Kansas City, MO, the first overhead-wire electric transit system to enter regular service in the United States. Belgian-born Charles van Depoele, who earned 240+ patents in electric railway technology and other fields, set up trolley lines in several North American cities by 1887. In February 1888, a trolley system designed by Frank Sprague began operating in Richmond, Virginia. Sprague's system became the lasting prototype for electric street railways in the US."

"Charles Brooks in 1896? No!

Brooks' patent was for a modified version of a common type of street sweeper cart that had long been known, with a rotary brush that swept refuse onto an elevator belt and into a trash bin. In the United States, street sweepers started being patented in the 1840s, and by 1900 the Patent Office had issued about 300 patents for such machines."

Do I need to go on, oh intelligent one?

None of you blacks have answered the simple question: why don't you go back to Africa if America is so 'racist' and you are so held down by the 'white devils'?

Because you know you're too stupid to create a working, civilised country. Just look at all of Africa. One big hellhole. Just look at all the inner cities of Europe and America that have high black populations: hell holes...

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 5:07 AM

Why have none of you white people answered the question? Are any of you Christians? If not, then what is your religion? I think I know why none of them want to answer that question. Also, your list of white inventors is totally incorrect. Why do you lie to yourself? Why do you let them lie to you? The inventors you mentioned TRIED all of those things, however, a Black person came along and succeeded. I guess you don't read much. I guess the first open heart surgery was performed by Elvis Pressley, I guess the gas mask was invented by Frank Sinatra. You are a joke. That is the problem, you are only telling 1/16 of the truth. All those Black inventors mentioned previously are the absolute truth. They were the ones successful at it while their counterparts failed miserably. I guess George W. Bush designed the layout for Washington, DC! I can go on and on about the great accomplishes of the Black man the original man. Before him there were none after him there will be no more! I'm sure you all know that Jesus was not white; correct? You all do know the continent of Africa is where the accounts of the bible take place? You all do know what color the people are in that region? Well don't you?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 7:55 AM

Hey Idiot! Read this!

The first crude traffic light was a manually operated gas lantern installed in London around 1868. The signal consisted of two colors -- red meant "stop," while green meant "caution." One day the lantern exploded and injured the policeman who was operating it. It was painfully obvious a more efficient traffic signal was needed.
In 1920 Police Officer William Potts addressed the chaotic traffic of Detroit, Michigan, by co-opting the red, amber, and green automatic traffic light system used on railroads. Around the same time, the prolific African American inventor Garrett Morgan devised and patented the precursor to the automatic traffic lights we use today.

See? Why don't we use what the white inventors used? IT DIDN'T WORK WELL!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:01 AM

Alexander Miles of Duluth, Minnesota patented an electric elevator (U.S. pat#371,207) on October 11, 1887 (see patent below). Alexander Miles did not invent the first elevator, however, his design was very important. Alexander Miles improved the method of the opening and closing of elevator doors; and he improved the closing of the opening to the elevator shaft when an elevator was not on that floor. Alexander Miles created an automatic mechanism that closed access to the shaft. At that time elevator patrons or operators were often required to manually shut a door to cutoff access to the elevator shaft. People would forget to close the shaft door and as a result there were accidents with people falling down the elevator shafts.


Again, the white inventor's product was hazarous. Not well thought out!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:05 AM

Alexander Miles of Duluth, Minnesota patented an electric elevator (U.S. pat#371,207) on October 11, 1887 (see patent below). Alexander Miles did not invent the first elevator, however, his design was very important. Alexander Miles improved the method of the opening and closing of elevator doors; and he improved the closing of the opening to the elevator shaft when an elevator was not on that floor. Alexander Miles created an automatic mechanism that closed access to the shaft. At that time elevator patrons or operators were often required to manually shut a door to cutoff access to the elevator shaft. People would forget to close the shaft door and as a result there were accidents with people falling down the elevator shafts.


Again, the white inventor's product was hazardous. Not well thought out!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:09 AM

Richard Spikes of San Francisco, California patented or developed the following inventions:

railroad semaphore (1906)
automatic car washer (1913)
automobile directional signals (1913) - manufactured by Pierce Arrow
beer keg tap (1910) - purchased by Milwaukee Brewing Company.
self-locking rack for billiard cues (1910)
continuous contact trolley pole (1919) - used on on the famous San Francisco Key Line.
combination milk bottle opener and cover (1926)
method and apparatus for obtaining average samples and temperature of tank liquids (1931)
improved automatic gear shift (1932) - licensed the patent for $100,000
transmission and shifting thereof (1933)
automatic shoe shine chair (1939)
multiple barrel machine gun (1940)
horizontally swinging barber chair (1950)
automatic safety brake (1962) - year Richard Spikes died.
Note: While Richard Spikes was working on his automatic safety brake in 1962, he lost his vision. As a result, Richard Spikes designed a drafting machine for blind people, in order to assist him in his inventing.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:10 AM

Success led to law suits filed by Thomas Edison who sued Granville Woods claiming that he was the first inventor of the multiplex telegraph. Granville Woods eventually won, but Edison didn’t give up easily when he wanted something. Trying to win Granville Woods over, and his inventions, Edison offered Granville Woods a prominent position in the engineering department of Edison Electric Light Company in New York. Granville T. Woods, preferring his independence, declined.


Edison was a THIEF! Granville said; Fuck you to Edison!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:16 AM

In 1888, Granville T. Woods developed a system for overhead electric conducting lines for railroads, which aided in the development of the overhead railroad system found in cities such as Chicago, St. Louis, and New York City. In his early thirties, he became interested in thermal power and steam-driven engines. And, in 1889, he filed his first patent for an improved steam-boiler furnace. In 1892, a complete Electric Railway System was operated at Coney Island, NY. In 1887, he patented the Synchronous Multiplex Railway Telegraph, which allowed communications between train stations from moving trains. Granville T. Woods' invention made it possible for trains to communicate with the station and with other trains so they knew exactly where they were at all times.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:18 AM

Need I go on oh NOT intelligent one?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:21 AM

Benjamin Banneker was educated by Quakers, however, most of his education was self-taught. He quickly revealed to the world his inventive nature and first achieved national acclaim for his scientific work in the 1791 survey of the Federal Territory (now Washington, D.C.). In 1753, he built the first watch made in America, a wooden pocket watch. Twenty years later, Banneker began making astronomical calculations that enabled him to successfully forecast a 1789 solar eclipse. His estimate made well in advance of the celestial event, contradicted predictions of better-known mathematicians and astronomers.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:27 AM

Benjamin Banneker's Letter to Thomas Jefferson
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Benjamin Banneker's Letter to Thomas Jefferson
Maryland, Baltimore County, August 19 1791

Sir,
I am fully sensible of the greatness of that freedom, which I take with you on the present occasion ; a liberty which seemed to me scarcely allowable, when I reflected on that distinguished and dignified station in which you stand, and the almost general prejudice and prepossession, which is so prevalent in the world against those of my complexion.
I suppose it is a truth too well attested to you, to need a proof here, that we are a race of beings, who have long labored under the abuse and censure of the world ; that we have long been looked upon with an eye of contempt ; and that we have long been considered rather as brutish than human, and scarcely capable of mental endowments.

Sir, I hope I may safely admit, in consequence of that report which hath reached me, that you are a man far less inflexible in sentiments of this nature, than many others ; that you are measurably friendly, and well disposed towards us ; and that you are willing and ready to lend your aid and assistance to our relief, from those many distresses, and numerous calamities, to which we are reduced. Now Sir, if this is founded in truth, I apprehend you will embrace every opportunity, to eradicate that train of absurd and false ideas and opinions, which so generally prevails with respect to us ; and that your sentiments are concurrent with mine, which are, that one universal Father hath given being to us all ; and that he hath not only made us all of one flesh, but that he hath also, without partiality, afforded us all the same sensations and endowed us all with the same faculties ; and that however variable we may be in society or religion, however diversified in situation or color, we are all of the same family, and stand in the same relation to him.

Sir, if these are sentiments of which you are fully persuaded, I hope you cannot but acknowledge, that it is the indispensable duty of those, who maintain for themselves the rights of human nature, and who possess the obligations of Christianity, to extend their power and influence to the relief of every part of the human race, from whatever burden or oppression they may unjustly labor under ; and this, I apprehend, a full conviction of the truth and obligation of these principles should lead all to. Sir, I have long been convinced, that if your love for yourselves, and for those inestimable laws, which preserved to you the rights of human nature, was founded on sincerity, you could not but be solicitous, that every individual, of whatever rank or distinction, might with you equally enjoy the blessings thereof ; neither could you rest satisfied short of the most active effusion of your exertions, in order to their promotion from any state of degradation, to which the unjustifiable cruelty and barbarism of men may have reduced them.

Sir, I freely and cheerfully acknowledge, that I am of the African race, and in that color which is natural to them of the deepest dye ; and it is under a sense of the most profound gratitude to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, that I now confess to you, that I am not under that state of tyrannical thralldom, and inhuman captivity, to which too many of my brethren are doomed, but that I have abundantly tasted of the fruition of those blessings, which proceed from that free and unequalled liberty with which you are favored ; and which, I hope, you will willingly allow you have mercifully received, from the immediate hand of that Being, from whom proceeded every good and perfect Gift.

Sir, suffer me to recall to your mind that time, in which the arms and tyranny of the British crown were exerted, with every powerful effort, in order to reduce you to a state of servitude : look back, I entreat you, on the variety of dangers to which you were exposed ; reflect on that time, in which every human aid appeared unavailable, and in which even hope and fortitude wore the aspect of inability to the conflict, and you cannot but be led to a serious and grateful sense of your miraculous and providential preservation ; you cannot but acknowledge, that the present freedom and tranquility which you enjoy you have mercifully received, and that it is the peculiar blessing of Heaven.

This, Sir, was a time when you clearly saw into the injustice of a state of slavery, and in which you had just apprehensions of the horrors of its condition. It was now that your abhorrence thereof was so excited, that you publicly held forth this true and invaluable doctrine, which is worthy to be recorded and remembered in all succeeding ages : ``We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and that among these are, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'' Here was a time, in which your tender feelings for yourselves had engaged you thus to declare, you were then impressed with proper ideas of the great violation of liberty, and the free possession of those blessings, to which you were entitled by nature ; but, Sir, how pitiable is it to reflect, that although you were so fully convinced of the benevolence of the Father of Mankind, and of his equal and impartial distribution of these rights and privileges, which he hath conferred upon them, that you should at the same time counteract his mercies, in detaining by fraud and violence so numerous a part of my brethren, under groaning captivity and cruel oppression, that you should at the same time be found guilty of that most criminal act, which you professedly detested in others, with respect to yourselves.

I suppose that your knowledge of the situation of my brethren, is too extensive to need a recital here ; neither shall I presume to prescribe methods by which they may be relieved, otherwise than by recommending to you and all others, to wean yourselves from those narrow prejudices which you have imbibed with respect to them, and as Job proposed to his friends, ``put your soul in their souls' stead ;'' thus shall your hearts be enlarged with kindness and benevolence towards them ; and thus shall you need neither the direction of myself or others, in what manner to proceed herein. And now, Sir, although my sympathy and affection for my brethren hath caused my enlargement thus far, I ardently hope, that your candor and generosity will plead with you in my behalf, when I make known to you, that it was not originally my design ; but having taken up my pen in order to direct to you, as a present, a copy of an Almanac, which I have calculated for the succeeding year, I was unexpectedly and unavoidably led thereto.

This calculation is the production of my arduous study, in this my advanced stage of life ; for having long had unbounded desires to become acquainted with the secrets of nature, I have had to gratify my curiosity herein, through my own assiduous application to Astronomical Study, in which I need not recount to you the many difficulties and disadvantages, which I have had to encounter.

And although I had almost declined to make my calculation for the ensuing year, in consequence of that time which I had allotted therefore, being taken up at the Federal Territory, by the request of Mr. Andrew Ellicott, yet finding myself under several engagements to Printers of this state, to whom I had communicated my design, on my return to my place of residence, I industriously applied myself thereto, which I hope I have accomplished with correctness and accuracy ; a copy of which I have taken the liberty to direct to you, and which I humbly request you will favorably receive ; and although you may have the opportunity of perusing it after its publication, yet I choose to send it to you in manuscript previous thereto, that thereby you might not only have an earlier inspection, but that you might also view it in my own hand writing.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:33 AM

Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Banneker
Philadelphia Aug. 30. 1791.

Sir,

I thank you sincerely for your letter of the 19th. instant and for the Almanac it contained. no body wishes more than I do to see such proofs as you exhibit, that nature has given to our black brethren, talents equal to those of the other colours of men, & that the appearance of a want of them is owing merely to the degraded condition of their existence both in Africa & America. I can add with truth that no body wishes more ardently to see a good system commenced for raising the condition both of their body & mind to what it ought to be, as fast as the imbecillity of their present existence, and other circumstance which cannot be neglected, will admit. I have taken the liberty of sending your almanac to Monsieur de Condorcet, Secretary of the Academy of sciences at Paris, and member of the Philanthropic society because I considered it as a document to which your whole colour had a right for their justification against the doubts which have been entertained of them. I am with great esteem, Sir,

Your most obedt. humble servt.
Th. Jefferson

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 8:35 AM

to to whom ever wrote the last few post, you did it before i could get to it ,good looking out" as for our white brother ,why can't blacks get some credit for helping to change and make america the most civizilized nation in the world? secondly africa is a continent not a country ,but samrt (but you didnt know that).

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 11:27 AM

CORRECTION: to to whom ever wrote the last few post, you did it before i could get to it ,good looking out" as for our white brother ,why can't blacks get some credit for helping to change and make america the most civizilized nation in the world? secondly africa is a continent not a country ,but smart (but you didnt know that).

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 11:33 AM

TO KYLE Is this what you Said "Did blacks ever build a city? No! Did they even invent bricks? No! (the reason there's no Stonehenge in Africa is because it took more than 20 people to move the slabs of rock, clearly a non-starter in Africa, where assembling more than 20 niggers normally results in a war.)" WHO BULIT THE PYRAMIDS? They Are one of the seven wonders of the world , white peolple still cant seem to figure out why the pyramids are still standing to this day. KYLE Do you evr go to any muesums, it has been proven that the Egyptians masterd the embalming process, THey are able to make there skin and tissues still visible and it's been milllions of years since they where on earth. KYLE: what color where the EGPYTIANS. WHAT (Continent) DID THEY RESIDE. THEY WHERE BLACK KLYE. YES THEY WHERE the NIggers you speak of.........

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 12:08 PM

ONE more thing before i go ,Where is EGYPT?????? KYLE CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE EGPYT IS????????? Now Back to the real subject ( the little seven yr old girl) I dont think what she said was wrong, Think about the context in which she said it, " Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse. They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers. They took the black women, with the black man weak. Made to watch as they changed the paradigm of our village." anyone who odes things of this nature black white red green or yellow are devilish in nature. How the early americans built this nation ,irracdicatting the native americans, the real americans, in slaving an raping women, that is devilsh period....

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 12:21 PM

None of you have answered the question: why don't you want to go back to Africa? Why is Africa such a hellhole still? Why are millions still starving in Africa, year after year? Why does civil war plague so many African countries, year after year?
Why are blacks so much more likely to be violent criminals than whites?

And why can't you quit following us white people around, when we try to get away from you?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 22, 2006 12:22 PM

To Tom Sawyer ,why wont you go back to europe, Do you actully think that this america that you live in is more a home to you than me? My anssetors have fought ,bulid INVENTED, and died for this country.FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE I CANT SEE MY SELF as a mter of fact why cant you white people answer the brothers question, ARE YOU CHIRSTIAN??????????????

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 12:45 PM

Tom Sayer: IS this your land Tom sayer??? why wont you go back to europe ??? I just answered your question . I LIKE I previously stated my ancestors have fought and died for for AMERIKKKA, this is why i cant see my self going anywhere. but do you have anything to say about black inventors TOM SAYER, CAN YOU ANSWER MY QESTION NOW TOM SAYER ,are you christian???. 2) Why dony you go back to europe)

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 1:02 PM

We won't go back to Africa because this land was built on our backs. Now answer my question. Who of you are christian?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 1:06 PM

Tom said: Why are blacks so much more likely to be violent criminals than whites?

You have got to be joking. You must be saying this just to be a devil's advocate. I can't believe that you believe that in your heart.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 1:10 PM

Tom said: None of you have answered the question: why don't you want to go back to Africa? Why is Africa such a hellhole still? Why are millions still starving in Africa, year after year? Why does civil war plague so many African countries, year after year?

I thought you thought you were intelligent. I already know you are not intelligent based off of your commentary.

Also, Africa is not a hellhole. There are many thriving cities and countries on that continent. Cities that look like any major city in America or Europe. Have you ever been to any part of Africa? If not, then how can you even make a silly statement?

That land was raped and pillaged thoroughly of their resources. Namely the people. The most important resource any continent can have. The land is still being raped and pillaged. Bush is trying to pillage oil. That is his real reason in Iraq.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 1:18 PM

So blacks aren't more violent than whites then? You've rear Jared Taylor's 'The Color of Crime', I presume? The prisons aren't full of blacks?
Africa IS a hellhole.
Have I ever been to any part of Africa? Hell no! Why would I want to go and visit the worst place on Earth? And it's the worst place because of the PEOPLE who live there.
You're saying that Africa is a hellhole because it was "raped and pillaged of its resources, namely the people"...
So why is the huge population of Africa that exists right now somehow incapable of creating a normal, functioning civilisation like most European countries? You have ENOUGH people now, don't you!
I don't live in America, intelligent one... I live in Europe. I can't stand seeing parts of my country being turned into third world hellholes by the mass immigration of your people. We, the majority of whites who BUILT Europe, were never asked about this.

You are in cloud cuckoo land if you seriously think that blacks are somehow equal to whites - you must surely know that 99% of the things that have been invented in the past 500 years were NOT invented by blacks...

99% of them were also invented by men, not women, or are you going to deny THAT too?

When's the first African space mission to the moon? Why is this article so timely?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4832648.stm


Now, explain why you won't go back to Africa, is America is so full of 'racist' white devils...

You won't go back because you know Africa is a hellhole, ruined by the people who live there - the BLACK people.

Explain the current state of Zimbabwe. I guess it must be the fault of all those evil white farmers who made Zimbabwe known as the 'breadbasket of Africa' because it exported so much food to other African countries! Now we have no more white farmers and Zimbabwe is starving... I guess it's whitey's fault again...

If you think blacks aren't far more likely to be criminals than whites, I suggest you go to any inner city in Europe, and look at how wonderful the 'enrichment' is... White people are fleeing the 'multicultural' areas as quickly as they can afford to.

Get out of our countries, leave us alone, stop following us, stop expecting us to pay taxes to pay for your welfare, hospitals, schools, stop breeding like rabbits, stop committing crimes against us white people who PAY for you to be in our countries, taking up space, and stop being PARASITES.

Why don't you go back to Africa? Could it be because it's a backward, uncivilised hellhole that will never advance beyond mudhuts and AIDS?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 22, 2006 1:46 PM

You didn't address any of this post:
""The share of young black men without jobs has climbed relentlessly, with only a slight pause during the economic peak of the late 1990’s. In 2000, 65 percent of black male high school dropouts in their 20’s were jobless—that is, unable to find work, not seeking it or incarcerated. By 2004, the share had grown to 72 percent, compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts. Even when high school graduates were included, half of black men in their 20’s were jobless in 2004, up from 46 percent in 2000.

Incarceration rates climbed in the 1990’s and reached historic highs in the past few years. In 1995, 16 percent of black men in their 20’s who did not attend college were in jail or prison; by 2004, 21 percent were incarcerated. By their mid-30’s, 6 in 10 black men who had dropped out of school had spent time in prison.

In the inner cities, more than half of all black men do not finish high school.

None of the litany of problems that young black men face was news to a group of men from the airless neighborhoods of Baltimore who recently described their experiences.

One of them, Curtis E. Brannon, told a story so commonplace it hardly bears notice here. He quit school in 10th grade to sell drugs, fathered four children with three mothers, and spent several stretches in jail for drug possession, parole violations and other crimes.

“I was with the street life, but now I feel like I’ve got to get myself together,” Mr. Brannon said recently in the row-house flat he shares with his girlfriend and four children. “You get tired of incarceration.”

Which parts of it aren't true? And you wonder why white people want to get the hell away from you?

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 22, 2006 1:54 PM

I don't know a Mr. Obbanon. I don't know his plight. I don't know not one Black person who is unemployed or who is in prison. Have you ever been to rural Georgia, or rural North Carolina, or rural New York and seen the squallor many whites are living in? And yes, I have been to Africa and enjoyed the richness of the country. Also, you are absolutely correct. Blacks are in no way equal to rights. Not at all! Thanks for the observation!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 2:10 PM

This is my last post unless I get my question answered by at least three of you. Who of you are Christian? If not Christian then what is your religion?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 2:19 PM

Correction: Also, you are absolutely correct. Blacks are in no way equal to whites. Not at all! Thanks for the observation!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 2:22 PM

The remaining twelve tribes lasted until about six thousand years ago when a man named Yacub was born. Yacub was an evil scientist who studied genealogy. He discovered that black genes, causing dark pigmentation, caused very strong individuals to be born. He also found that the weaker the pigmentation of the individual the weaker that individuals genes would be. He set out to breed a race that would cause the genocide of his own race. Since this new race would be biologically weaker they would have to find a new means of strength, and so he planned to teach them a science called tricknology. It was Yacub’s theory that through tricknology his race would be able to enslave the world through the use of tricks and lies.

Yacub began preaching at the age of sixteen, and amassed many followers through which he incited a revolution. Yacub had gained so many followers that even though the King had filled his jails Yacub’s word still flourished. In order to save his kingdom and maintain peace the King made a bargain with Yacub. Yacub agreed to leave that kingdom with his followers if the king would provide him with land and the means necessary to build a civilization for the next twenty years. The King agreed and Yacub, accompanied by 59,999 of his followers, moved to the island of Pelan in the Aegean sea.

It took six hundred years for Yacub’s civilization to breed all the black genes out of itself, and in doing so they had created races of red, yellow, brown, and finally white descent. All races were descendants of blacks, and the white race was the weakest and most wicked. They were devils by birth because they were born into sin. In order to breed the white race any child born of a darker pigmentation than the rest would be murdered. Yacub had created a race of devils, and they were all taught tricknology

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 2:40 PM

Since you know so much Tom Sawyer, what color was jesus????

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 2:59 PM

Bro Tom Sawyer is not going to answer your question. I think it's sad because he wont face the truth. He has been aruging to same tiresome point for days now. No matter how others prove him wrong , he still asserts these foolish beliefs. HE's a Rasist point blank. People like this just want to be heard. Maybee because He was overlooked as a child, and he seeks attention as a adult. HOW SAD........

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 3:04 PM

"No matter how others prove him wrong , he still asserts these foolish beliefs. HE's a Rasist point blank."

How did you prove me wrong? You didn't even comment on any of the points about black crime...
And you can't even spell 'racist' - and I am a racist, like most people are. What are you going to say now, 'bro'?

Why are so many black children without fathers?
Why are so many black men in prison? Why are so many black men failures in general?
Why is Africa a hellhole?
Why will America or Europe be any different to Africa when blacks become a majority there?

What has Jesus or Christianity got to do with any of this? I'm an atheist!

Now, why don't you want to go back to Africa? Since you'd experience no 'racism' there, surely there should be millions of blacks queueing up to go there, right?

You can't live in luxury unless you're leeching off white people, and you know it.

Posted by: Tom Sawyer at March 22, 2006 3:21 PM

Hmm... could that possibly be because there AREN'T any inventions by black people? Is this what you said Tom Sawyer, How about all the post that me and others have place behind statement to disprove this. "I am a racist," I'm glad you finally came to grips with that because This concludes my dialoge with you, I dont talk to dummies".What has Jesus or Christianity got to do with any of this? I'm an atheist!" I'm glad you finally responed to one qusetion" hey your finally making progres, what did it take you two days. Your the one that said Black are so dumb."You can't live in luxury unless you're leeching off white people, and you know it." No one is leeeching off of you, you live in europe remebember. "You are in cloud cuckoo land if you seriously think that blacks are somehow equal to whites " I'm Glad YOU PROVED THIS , YOUR NOT EQUAL TO ANYONE" YOU ARE IN A CLASS OF YOUR OWN. THE LD (LEARNING DISABLITY ) CLASS.) I'm Tired of talking to you with this follish jargon. All you are doing is using this blog to express your own folish views. "BRO" or Should I call You "GRAND MASTER". I now go and put on your white robe. ohh dont forget your nuce that you have never used.

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 4:37 PM

Mr pan africanism....
You are more of a bigot then ANYONE ON HERE..

The only thing you have proved is that you hate whites....
And enough to use fabricated facts....Sure jesus was not white, but he was no afro he was a jew....YES A JEW THE SAME "PEOPLE" who with the arabs who sold AFRIKANS "AND EACH OTHER TO the highest bidder....
I find it laughable how you blame whitey for all your problems while your ancestors were sold off by jews arabs and YOUR OWN....Like cattle

Posted by: THE MAN at March 22, 2006 5:35 PM

AND TO ANSWER WHY NIGROES DO NOT GO BACK TO AFRIKA????

being agents of chaos SORROW AND DESTRUCTION there is still so much beauty and potential to be sullied and tainted here in the west....And if they went to their home land they would have no one left to blame for their failures....But then they would regress to self tribe hate.....remember hutus and the tutsis.......

Where I live i see crime addled soulss every where and they fall into 3 catagories....Niggers, wannabe niggers and the poor souls who are addicts to the poison niggers sell...

DO you "people" think we are blind??? we see the causes ..
And it is only a matter of time before action is taken.

Posted by: reason at March 22, 2006 5:52 PM

I find it funny how I state facts, and others say I blame whitey, Can one of you can quote me saying I blame anyone?, but When the truth is told you all, then US Blacks HAVE TO BLAME WHITEY. Can
The MAN own up and "BE A MAnN" CAN The "MAN FACE THE FACT That this blog IS A way for HIM TO EXPRESS HIS OWN twisted views. OR is it CONVEINENT TO SAY He’s Blaming WHITEY AGAIN.

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 5:59 PM

I'm begining to see the REASON why the little girl called you DEVILS ,some of you are really just that DEVILS. PEACE REASON; OR DO YOU LACK REASON.....

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 6:03 PM

The Man said: And enough to use fabricated facts....Sure jesus was not white, but he was no afro he was a jew

How stupid can you be? You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever come across if you don't believe Jesus was Black. The good book tells you that! If that is not good enough for you, if Africa is the home of the first man(Adam) and Jesus is a decendant of that then what does that make him? If that's not good enough for you then what color do you think those people are on that continent? Lastly, if that's not good enough for you you should dig a little deeper. The original Jews were black! How freakin' idiotic can you be? Don't believe that bullshit Mel Gibson told you. That shit was factually incorrect. You know what? I'm done. You all are nothing but uninformed jerks. I'm done with you all. Keep living your lives in darkness.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 7:03 PM

attention moron jesus was born in galile...

And as far as living in darkness if you ever went to afrika you would know about darkness.....murder and rape it is common knoledge in afrika that you can cure aids by raping virgins, and being african woman the only virgins are infants.......

I have read both un holy evil corruption books old and new testament......and NO WHERE DOES IT SAY JEWS ARE FROM AFRIKA.....
Though they really liked selling them "africans" to whites, or who ever can give them the highest dollar!
You sir are a uninformed fool ...
I do not blame you.. It must me the ganja rotting your brain of the leftist media twisting the FACTS

Africans had a true faith before the jewish insanitys of monotheism infected them and perhaps even a culture , You are still a slave your massa is the jewish anticulture, it is time to wake up.

Have you ever heard of damballa, do you even have the slightest idea about your volk before the jew took their culture away and infected you with jesus, moses and mohammed??

You are a puppet and you defend the very shakles that bind you...

Posted by: the man at March 22, 2006 8:44 PM

This is to the man, learn how to speak english ,beacause thst SHIT that you wrote dosent make sense. I'm done too. man some of you people must have taken to much crystal meth or something . i'm out fellas ROCK ON

Posted by: Pan-Africanism at March 22, 2006 9:05 PM

HAHAHA
English ???
I suppose thats another invention of the negro


Posted by: Anonymous at March 22, 2006 10:13 PM

If you doubt the truth that a 7 year old had the courage to speak on then please, refute those facts!

If you are White and you feel angry about your own historical guilt and hypocrisy, be honest about it and speak up loud and clear!

Perhaps you would rather pretend that your ancestors did not rape and murder millions for $$$$$$ (and still are) simultaneously becoming the main benefactors of a worldwide social condidtion that YOU created for your own betterment!

Be vocal, be sincere, and most importantly...
BE SEEN!

Posted by: Black Fist at March 22, 2006 11:46 PM

This forum is no doubt interesting and entertaining. I haven't read all the way to the bottom yet so if someone before me made this point my apologies for saying it...
WE ARE ALL RACISTS, BLACK, WHITE, it doesn't matter, WE ARE ALL RACISTS!!!! The sooner we accept that fact, the sooner we will start to heal, the first step is admitting the problem. We are all throwing out opinions mixed with facts and interpretations, alot of which are valid, depending on what side of the fence your standing. We all can somewhat see the others side of the argument (even from the most ignorant) but you will never fully understand their plight because you will never be able to stand in their shoes, and truthfully if they explained their point to you in every little detail you still wouldn't get it because you can't feel what they feel, and that's for both sides. I am a black female who has dealt with alot in the very short amount of time that I have graced this planet, including having to leave my elementary school to attend third grade in a larger city for fear of backlash from the KKK stemming from an incident that happened with my older brothers at the high school and subsequent issues following that incident, but I am also a Christian and despite our differences I Love and Respect each of you because that is what it will take to silence the fear and pain that our history together in this world has created. If we start to love and respect eachother no matter what you believe in we will atleast begin to heal. Now as far as this child is concerned someone made the comment that she is exactly the same as the white twins and she is, no matter what I think about this childs poem based on my education and individual experiences in this country, for those types of feelings to spew from a child in the interview is crazy. I would never want to impose my radically racist views on my child, informing her of her history yes, but molding her young mind into that, no. I want my child to grow up working hard for what she wants, knowing that she must work harder than everyone else, not because she's Black but because she's the best. I will not tell my child of the racism that I know is out there because I want her to understand that we are all equal, undoubtedly some idiot will challenge that but I hope she looks at them as an individual not as the whole. I know that some of you will say that I am sending my child into the world illequiped but in order to stop this fear of eachother we must start seeing eachother as equals. My Black people must deal with the inferiority complex we all possess; but that is only half of the coin, my White people must also deal with the superiority complex that they all possess, that never comes up when discussions of racism are raised but it definately exists, even in the White People who don't believe their racists, who's "best friends are black", who even have black children. There is no way for our history together, especially in this country, to not affect our present. There is so much within ourselves that we must address in order to escape the chains of racism but the main thing that is apparent to me is the FEAR.
LOVE and BLESSINGS to you all.

Posted by: CT at March 22, 2006 11:47 PM

Well I agree with one thing she said. If she wants to go to live in Africa let her. America will be no worse off for her departure.

Imagine a white child had tried a similar stunt...

Posted by: Matt at March 23, 2006 4:34 AM

The original Jews in Africa 2000 years ago were a Black African people as an ethnic group. (Massey: Egypt Light of the Word p501) Many of them still are Black, in northenrn Africa such as the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. A New York Times editorial (3/2/84) described them as "a lost tribe that has kept it identiy for more than 2,000 years in a remote corner of Africa." Abraham, ancestor of the Hebrews, was from Chaldea; the ancient Chaldeans were Black. In fact, Africa takes it name from Ophren, a son of Abraham by his wife, Keturah (Whiston: The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus p50) Like Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah -through Solomon/Queen of Sheba and King David.
Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origion." The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3) That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. "Semitic languages" are really dialectical variants of African languages.

The word Semite is from semi which means half. Half what? Half BLACK! (mulatto!) Semite refers to the descendants of Shem, one of Noah's sons. The word originates from the Latin prefix semi which means half. "half Black and half white... therefore Black (since Black is genetically dominant)" points out Dr. Cress Welsing. Historian Cheikh Anta Diop also points out that the "Semitic" arises in the 4th millennia B.C. from crossbreeding between Black inhabitants of the holy land and white northern invaders. While many Semites (such as Jews & gypsies) have mixed so much with whites that they've forgotten or deny their African roots, racism (white supremacy) will never let them forget this no matter how light-skinned they become, as proved by Hitler, who mandated their destruction because they were classified by whites as "non-white" peple originating in Africa. The very word gypsy means "out of Egypt."

Posted by: Anonymous at March 23, 2006 8:40 AM

Black Fist, Lets talk about cannabalism in Africa (which is still going on as is slavery) yet all this went on before any White saw a black person ever. Want to talk historic guilt. We've paid, we've paid for it over and over and over again. We've seen black pigs turn once good areas into war zones with crack and other drugs but never once did any of you worthless pigs ever take the blame for that. Instead you blame whites for EVERYTHING. Lets face it, to be black is to smoke crack, car jack, sing about raping and glorifying cop killers while talking out of both sides of your filthy mouths that it's all whiteys fault. Hit the bricks and buy a ticket back to Africa. You'll find out real quick how tough life really is you pigs.

Posted by: Andre at March 23, 2006 6:29 PM

Btw, anonymous dingbat, Gypsies have been proven to be decendants of the dark skinned people of India not Africa.

Posted by: Andre at March 23, 2006 6:39 PM

First and Foremost...

Andre you are an Idiot to the nth degree!
What does cannibalism have to do with European imperialism? Exactly, nothing.

Second of all, I've never witnessed a SINGLE poppy seed or coke field in Oakland, Compton, Detriot, NYC, Baltimore etc. or any so called Black "thugs" flying airplanes filled with Kilo's of Drugs or AK-47's. If you have proof of the following, then let me know!

I dont smoke crack, sell drugs, or glorify violence in any form(Never have and never will). Ironically you've just demonstrated how much of a hypocrite you really are!

Like yourself, most of you "people" have used narrow minded overly simplistic terms to state your views while others have tried to school you morons.

Telling me to go back to Africa is also laughable. Black Slaves were here in Jamestown the first pre U.S Colony, so if you did not descend from those who came of the Mayflower, then shut up!

I would rather you and your types be honest in public and not ignorant behind your computer because you are not even anonymous on that front.
Take your views to the public (preferably a Black Man)If your utter fear does not prevent you. I would love to see you get knocked out of your shoes!

The historical "Proof in the Pudding" is available for all to see. However, academia has twisted and contorted these undeniable facts to suit there own Imperialist objectives quite effectively.

Job well done...But it's not over by a long shot!

Posted by: Black Fist at March 23, 2006 9:33 PM

Modern Egypt is a transcontinental nation located mostly in North Africa, with the Sinai Peninsula lying in Asia. The country has shorelines on the Mediterranean Sea, the Red Sea, the Gulf of Suez and the Gulf of Aqaba. It borders Libya to the west; Sudan to the south; and the Gaza Strip, Palestine and Israel to the east.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 23, 2006 11:22 PM

Egyptian society was a merging of North and Northeast African as well as Southwest Asian peoples. Modern genetics reveals [1] [2] that the Egyptian population today is characterized by paternal lineages common to North Africans primarily, and to some Near Eastern peoples. Studies based on the maternal lineages closely links modern Egyptians with people from modern Ethiopia [3], [4]. The ancient Egyptians themselves traced their origin to a land they called Punt, or "Ta Nteru" ("Land of the Gods"), which most Egyptologists locate in the area encompassing the Ethiopian Highlands.

A recent bioanthropological study on the dental morphology of ancient Egyptians confirms dental traits most characteristic of North African and to a lesser extent Southwest Asian populations.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 23, 2006 11:25 PM

Egypt was without question the first great civilization in Africa. Surrounded by the hostile desert, Egypt arose as a populous settlement as a "gift of the Nile River," which flooded surrounding plains and thus supported game and wild plants. Straddling the strategic land crossroads between Africa, Asia, and Europe, Egypt also became a point for interchange between the Mediterranean and Red seas and the Persian Gulf. Many developments affecting the rest of Africa took place in or near the Nile Valley, such as the cultivation of plants and the development of metal smelting. Thus, Egypt's major role in forming early African civilizations has been well established.

In modern times, scholars often underestimated the contributions of ancient Egypt to European civilization. More than two millennia ago, when the Ptolemaic Greeks came to rule Egypt, they extensively adopted and interpreted Egyptian spiritual, material, political, aesthetic, and intellectual systems. Although later Greek authorities freely acknowledged their cultural debt to Egypt, during the nineteenth century many European writers, limited by their ethnocentrism and racism, decided that black Africa could have had nothing to do with Europe's rise to greatness. Some treated Egypt as Middle Eastern and divorced it from the rest of Africa, whereas others went further, asserting the preeminence of northern Aryan sources of Greek civilization to the virtual exclusion of Semitic, African, and Egyptian influences.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 23, 2006 11:37 PM

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Posted by: yt at March 24, 2006 2:54 PM

Black Fist you just talked out of both sides of your mouth. First you say you don't advocate violence, then the next paragraph down you want someone to get knocked out of their shoes. Lets face facts, whenever you blacks get a good booting you turn around cry to the NAACP, demand hate crime charges and more such hate crime laws yet when you do it to Whites nobody say boo peep. Let's also face facts when James Byrd was taught to street ski everyone bitched and moaned. But when a lady was dragged to death in Alabama by a black car jacker nobody said boo or when a White 8 year old was stabbed to death in Virginia by a black pig nobody said boo squat in the national media nor did many people seem overly conserned when a black pig car jacker in Kansas dragged to death a white child. Lets also not forget those black pigs in Kansas who raped and mudered those Whites in Wichita. I guess that is civility to the Nth. Go back to listeniing to Tupac, Ice-T and that failed loser Calypso player.

Posted by: Andre at March 24, 2006 5:32 PM

Chaldeans were not black...have you read gilgamesh????
Also go through some of the egyptian book of the dead.....descriptions are quite clear, they were surely not scandinavian, but not dark afrikan and all that...Also look at the treasures taken from the tombs in the valley of the kings, many of the glyphs even have blue eyes.....
Just look at the depictions of every day life.It is rather plainly painted in bright color..

Like most high civilzations they fell when the creative aspect was finally bred away, "interbreeding with alien tribes lacking the same mentality" thus they were rendered incapable of sustaining the high society they built .."the same as chaldea"

Posted by: CHALDEAN at March 24, 2006 5:57 PM

hebrew and the jewish faith "evolved"from chaldean in the same way yiddish came from german..

THROUGH PARACITIC MEANS....
they were a seperate "people" amongst this onece great and flourishing kingdom..

Chaldeans were black......Bah...how is Ishtar described in the folklore???And her people???

In fact they described themselves as children of the elders "which were fair deitys" as opposed to the ancients which were agents of chaos, dark animal things with color dark as night..

You really should study more...
Read less what the politically correct editors give you, and more
of the origionals..

And your bible quotes are non valid....my reasoning is as thus ...I collect bibles, and My copy from 1850 has much more then my modern gideon..
modern bibles have huge omissions..It is kind of scary how much.....


Posted by: chaldean child of marduke at March 24, 2006 6:25 PM

haile seleise....

Was a killer and despot of the absolute worst kind....he only claimed his ancestry to judah to give his puppet regime quazi legitimate footing.

As a black and proud man I despise any of my peoplle who spit on the grand heritage of the mother goddess.

The name some filthy pale pig dared speak in a earlier post.

Posted by: laughter at March 24, 2006 6:34 PM

All black pigs here, the 19 is pregnant, the 19 is pregnant! SO SAYTH THE FAILED LOSER CALYPSO PLAYER PIGGY!

Posted by: Andre at March 24, 2006 6:50 PM

hebrew and the jewish faith "evolved"from chaldean in the same way yiddish came from german..

THIS STATEMENT IS 100% FACTUALLY INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! WTF???????

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 7:45 PM

Like Christ, ALL founders of world religions on ALL continents were BLACK and “woolly” haired, including the earliest gods.
Buddha was Black! That’s why his woolly hair is always shown in small tight curls, peppercorn style or cornrows. Early sculptures of him clearly reveal his Aficoid features ...wide nose and full lips. So was Zaha of Japan, Fu-Hsi of China, Tyr of Scandinavia, Quetzalcoatl of Mexico, Sommonacom of Siam and Isis of Egypt and Rome. Krishna of India was “blue-black,” in fact his means black, or the Black One! (See dictionary). He is always portrayed with blue or blue-black skin.

Mohammed, founder of Islam was also ‘bluish’ in color with ‘frizzy’ hair. His grandfather was “black as the night.”

Moses was Black according to Mohammedan tradition and early portraits. His hand would turn white, then back to his “other flesh” when God wished to give him a sign. (Ex. 4:6,7).

Lao Tse of Taoism was “a divine incarnation ...born of a virgin black in complexion and as beautiful as jasper.” (Thorton: History of China Vol. 1) The chief title of Osiris, the greatest of Egyptian gods means “Lord of the Perfect Black.” He was also called “The Great Black,” similar to Krishna. The chief title of Zeus, greatest of the Greek gods was “Ethiops” which means, “burnt faced.” Early statues of gods in India have Africoid features and woolly or locked hair. The name of the Mexican god Ixtliton means “blacked faced.” In fact, many ancient Mexican gods are portrayed jet black with Africoid features.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:02 PM

Jesus was a Nazarite: a vow of Nazarites was to never cut his hair but “let the locks of the hair of his head grow.” (Nm. 6:2,5, Lev. 19:27; 21:5) The word Nazarite is from nazar, meaning unshorn. Woolly nappy hair, if simply washed & dried but never combed or brushed, will naturally entwine into long locks as it grows. Samson, the most famous example of locked hair, had seven locks. (Jg. 13:5, 16:17,19)

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:04 PM

The ancient Egyptians called themselves Kam or Kam-Au (Black people/ Black God-people), and their country Kamit (or Khemit), both meaning land of the Blacks and the Black Land. The word Egypt is derived from the Greek word Aigyptos (or Aiguptos) that means Black! Europe’s first historian, Herodotus said, “the Egyptians, Colchians, and Ethiopians have thick lips, and broad nose, woolly hair and they are of burnt skin.” Egyptian civilization evolved from the Ethiopians. The Bible equates Ham (Africans) with Egypt. (Ps. 78:51; 105:23, 27; 106:21, 22)

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:05 PM

Carved from a single rock, the Sphinx was a portrait of the Black Pharaoh Khafre (Cephren). The blatant, undeniable evidence of Black African achievement blew off the Africoid nose and part of the lips with cannon fire! Reporting on the “riddle” of the racial identity of the ancient Egyptians, Count C. Volney, a distinguished French scholar who visited Egypt in the late 1700's, wrote with astonishment “...when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. Beholding that head typically Negro in all its features...” He later added “...the Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans.” The Sphinx’s broad nose and full lips are evident in an early drawing of the Sphinx as it was found in the 19th century.

The willful and systematic destruction of Africoid art has also occurred in the Americas, Asia and India: Inscriptions and hieroglyphics are defaced or bleached, noses are shot off or chiseled down, confusing nomenclatures are pasted over the evidence, photos are taken from misleading angles or filters, and some evidence is outright destroyed. Europeans replaced the African inscriptions with new ones that credited themselves for the achievement.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:07 PM

You may recall being taught in school that Western (white) civilization is founded upon the ancient Greek civilization that seemed to suddenly appear. What European historians are trying to hide or deny is that the Greek civilization was primarily the offspring of the advanced Black African civilization of ancient Egypt that preceded it by thousands of years. Greek legends relate that Egyptian & Phoenician conquerors ruled all or parts of Greece until the 14th or 15th century B.C.

Books about Western civilization’s African origins include Cheikh Anta Diop: The African Origin of Civilization - Myth or Reality and Martin Bernal: Black Athena Vol. 1, 2.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:08 PM

The early Greek-Roman gods & goddesses such as Apollo, Zeus, Hercules, Athena, Venus, were all Black, being renditions of the Black Egyptian gods. The historian Herodotus himself wrote “the names of nearly all the gods came to Greece from Egypt.” The Aeneid, like the Iliad, Odyssey and all the other great epics of the world, is a poetic story dealing with Black people! Aeneas, the Trojan hero of Virgil’s Aeneid, was in direct descent from Dardanus, the African founder of Troy.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:08 PM

The falsely credited Pythagoras and Euclid learned their knowledge from Egypt’s “Sacred Mystery Schools,” which were the first universities known to man (with branches in other parts of the world, including China!) Estimated by computer analysis to have approached a mile in length, the temple-university of Luxor housed an elite faculty of priest-professors and catered to some 80,000 students at all grade levels! Temples were at the center of religion, politics and education.

The Ethiopians and Egyptians originated Mathematics and Trigonometry. The African Moors originated Algebra and developed Trigonometry into a science. The word Algebra is derived from “Al-Jabr wa’l Muqabala,” the title of the first textbook on the subject. From the name of the Black author, “Al-Khowarizmi.” We get the word algorithm (a math procedure). The Arabic numbers we use today came from he ancient Arab people who were originally Black Africans! And many of them still are!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:10 PM

The words Chemistry/ Alchemy are from the word Kam or Khem, the name that the ancient Egyptians called themselves that means BLACK. Africans invented paper and papermaking. Paper was made from papyrus, hence the name. Before this, writing was done on stone tablets. The alphabet used by Western civilization originates from the Black Phoenicians who copied the principles from the Africans of the Nile Valley.

The real ‘Father of Medicine’ was the African multi-genius Imhotep of ancient Egypt, not Hippocrates who lived 2000 years later. Imhotep brought the knowledge of medicine to Greece and Rome. He was a world famous physician, architect, high priest, diplomat, economist, poet, philosopher, sage, magician, astronomer, engineer, and designer of the Step Pyramid of Sakkara. He was so revered that he was deified while still living and worshipped as the Great God of Medicine. The Greeks renamed him Aesclepios, the God of Healing. The phrase “drink and be merry...” is traced to him.

The symbol of the medical profession, the caduceus (a winged staff entwined by two serpents), was the insignia found on his temples. Imhotep temples in fact were the first hospitals known to man! Stlen from Africa, his many volumes are at Karl Marx University in Leipzig, Germany “From Egypt comes the earliest medical books, the first observatory for anatomy - human and comparative - the first experiments in surgery and pharmacy, the first use of splints and bandages, compresses and other appliances, and the first anatomical and medical vocabulary, and an extensive one at that.”

(S. Glanvile: The Legacy of Egypt p196) European medicine is founded on the works of Imhotep and Black Muslims, Avicenna and Rhazes. For rich details, see Llaila O. Afrika: African Holistic Health.

This race of black men... is the very race to which we owe our arts, our sciences, and even the use of speech!"

Wrote the amazed, distinguished French scholar, Count C. Volney in 1787. Later he wrote Ruins of Empires, a book which so delighted scholars of the day that it was translated into English with a 'special edition' for the racist Americans, in which the following quotation was left out: "There are a people, now forgotten who discovered while others were yet barbarians, the elements of the arts and sciences. The Black man is rejected now for their black skin and woolly hair founded, on the study of the laws of Nature, those civil and religious systems which still govern the universe."

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:11 PM

The name by which whites are known -Caucasian- originated from Africans -and is from Caucasus, which is derived from the Ethiopian words "Caer Cush Aur." (Bryant's Ancient Mythology Vol. III, p158 [1807]). Ancient African civilizations flourished while Europeans were living as barbarians in the caves of the Caucasus mountains.

Whites stole the word "Aryan" from the Sanskrit language of India's Blacks where it meant noble cultivator or the holy.

Europe is named after the Black Phoenician princess, Europe! (See dictionary) who was kidnapped by Black Zeus.

"Slave" is from "Slav." So many Slavic people of Europe were enslaved that the word "Slav" came to mean, "slave."

Paris is named after the Egyptian goddess, Isis!--From an early temple of Isis (Pari Isidos). At the site of this temple is the Cathedral of Notre Dame; the Grande Dame referred to Isis herself!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:11 PM

The heroes & people of the Bible were primarily Black African people. Moses was an Egyptian priest whose hand turned white under special circumstances. (Ex. 4:6,7) Black Samson had dreadlocks. Solomon declares, "I am black" as does Job; "My skin is black..." (Sol. 1:6, Job 30:30) Simon was a Canaanite. (Mt. 10:4) Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian." (Acts 21:37-39)

The early church fathers, persecuted Christians and martyred saints were also Black, such as St. Barbara - a female saint after which Santa Barbara city is named, St. Augustine, St. Maurice, Clement of Alexandria and five popes, including St. Peter! (Rogers: Nature Knows No Color Line) For details McCray: The Black Presence in the Bible. Dunston: The Black Man in the Old Testament & its World; and Barashango: God, The Bible & The Black Man's Destiny.

Seeking to further discredit African legacy, white historians try to displace Egypt from Africa by classifying it as part of Asia, but the ancient people of West Asia were also Black! The original people of West Asia were the Sumerians, who called themselves the "Black-Heads." They founded the rich Black cultures of Mesopotamia that included the ancient Babylonians, Chaldeans, Canaanites, Phoenicians and Elamites (original Persians).

Cush or Nubia means Ethiopia. The Biblical table of nations (Gen. 10) tells us that Cush and Canaan were brothers (sons of Ham), and that Sumer (Shina) is descended from Cush. Old Testament compilers assign Ham (father of Africans) to Egypt, Canaan, Cush and Phut (Libya). The Bible refers to Egypt as Ham. (Ps. 78:51; 105:23, 27; 106; 21,22)

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:13 PM

The original Jews in Africa 2000 years ago were a Black African people as an ethnic group. (Massey: Egypt Light of the Word p501) Many of them still are Black, in northern Africa such as the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. A New York Times editorial (3/2/84) described them as "a lost tribe that has kept it identity for more than 2,000 years in a remote corner of Africa."

Abraham, ancestor of the Hebrews, was from Chaldea; the ancient Chaldeans were Black. In fact, Africa takes it name from Ophren, a son of Abraham by his wife, Keturah (Whiston: The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus p50) Like Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah -through Solomon/Queen of Sheba and King David. Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origin."

The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, “O children of Israel? Saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares he himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3)

The Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. "Semitic languages" are really dialectical variants of African languages.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:14 PM

If the original Jews were Black, where did white Jews come from? There are two main types of white Jews the Edomites and the Khazars. Edomites are the descendants of Esau, who was born ruddy (red) and hairy according to the Bible. (Gen. 25:25) This describes the “white” man; he is red (all shades) and hairy. Esau was the albino, fraternal twin brother of Jacob, the father of the original Black Israelites. The white Edomites and Black Israelites were constantly in strife against one another. In fact, the Edomites fought the Black Jews in the Roman-Jewish War. At a later period in history, the Edomites (Idumeans) were conquered and forced to become “Jews.” The European Khazars became “Jews” in 740 A.D. (see below) Neither groups are descended from the house of Israel!

Khazars make up over 90% of the so-called “Jews!” (Hatonn) The world’s best kept secret? Hugley writes “These groups... [Khazars esp., plus Edomites & other ethnic groups] make up modern Jewry today. Although the black Hebrew-Israelites are the real descendants of ancient Israel, this truth is not known by many and it is ‘the world’s best kept secret.’

Because of slavery and scattering, the Hebrew-Israelites are not known to the world as true Israel... Some scholars, teachers and ministers teach that God has completely cast them away, but God said, ‘I have chosen thee, and have not cast thee away.’ (Isa. 41:9, last part.) [& Rm. Ch. 11]

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 8:15 PM

THERE IS TRULY NO SENCE IN THIS BEAST AT ALL ..

YOUR BIBLE QUOTES CAN NOT BE TRUSTED AT ALL THE BIBLE AS IT IS KNOWN TODAY IS A VASTLY DIFFERENT BOOK TO THE ORIGIONAL TEXT..

YOUR PSEUDO FACTS ARE SO FULL OF HOLES AND BLANTANT NON SENCE ...
To be mistaken as egyptian could mean many things, perhaps he looked as a eunich?? Or mayhaps the dialect he spoke had a certain accent...
the FABLE OF SAMPSON NOWHERE DOES IT SAY HE HAD DREDS AT ALL...

Onece again you are going crazy with insanity......

just because you can name historical figures then
mis quote them and bastardise their works and all its insane...

If you know anything about pythagoras in
comparison to egyptian, and hebrew and chaldean you would have Never have moved foward with such boorish comparison....

ISTAR was not a wide ape featured beast but "as in gilgamesh" and the creation myth as she decended to the underworld crowned with hair as rays of the sun
and eyes as the sky, skin of milk..

the demons of the underworld had skin as the earth and eyes as the cattle of the field.....

I have been studying ancient texts since youth...
YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH YOUR INSANE PSEUDO JIBBERISH

but I am not going to go all quote on you ..
argueing on the internet is like the special olympics...no matter the outcome your all still retarded


Posted by: CHALDEAN TRUTH at March 24, 2006 8:59 PM

I have been following the absurdities on this site for 3 days now so here goes ...Why do the rulers of egypt have pale skin in their tomb paintings??
Why then the statues have more indo aryan features then the broad faced proto ape afro we all see in afrikas mainland today....


And since africans are so high evolved why then the complete lack of society in afrika today..?and
Unless of corse where there are euro blooded foremen or consultants????


WHY are afrikans today so completely useless in their home lands when governed by thei own??

why do africans represent the HIGHEST level of aids in the world??

Why do africans represent the highest level of murder and rape in the western world when compared to ALL other sub species of man??

I can go on????

Posted by: Anonymous at March 24, 2006 9:20 PM

"The remaining twelve tribes lasted until about six thousand years ago when a man named Yacub was born. Yacub was an evil scientist who studied genealogy. He discovered that black genes, causing dark pigmentation, caused very strong individuals to be born. He also found that the weaker the pigmentation of the individual the weaker that individuals genes would be. He set out to breed a race that would cause the genocide of his own race. Since this new race would be biologically weaker they would have to find a new means of strength, and so he planned to teach them a science called tricknology. It was Yacub’s theory that through tricknology his race would be able to enslave the world through the use of tricks and lies.

Yacub began preaching at the age of sixteen, and amassed many followers through which he incited a revolution. Yacub had gained so many followers that even though the King had filled his jails Yacub’s word still flourished. In order to save his kingdom and maintain peace the King made a bargain with Yacub. Yacub agreed to leave that kingdom with his followers if the king would provide him with land and the means necessary to build a civilization for the next twenty years. The King agreed and Yacub, accompanied by 59,999 of his followers, moved to the island of Pelan in the Aegean sea.

It took six hundred years for Yacub’s civilization to breed all the black genes out of itself, and in doing so they had created races of red, yellow, brown, and finally white descent. All races were descendants of blacks, and the white race was the weakest and most wicked. They were devils by birth because they were born into sin. In order to breed the white race any child born of a darker pigmentation than the rest would be murdered. Yacub had created a race of devils, and they were all taught tricknology"

ok so Yacub wanted destroy his race of powerful humans, so he created a weak race and waited 600 years for it come to fruition, rather than create a more powerful race, which would of course be black and smart, now i see where he would have ran into problems, how to make them black and smart. and the white race was the weakest, i presume you mean physically weak, of course it all makes sense now, that explains why the worldest strongest man is white.

Posted by: lucifer at March 25, 2006 7:53 PM

It's funny that if the information does not benefit you then it is absurd. You all are very blind. It's okay though. I will not continue to educate you. I will just let you live in darkness for the next 6000 years.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 25, 2006 9:01 PM

The willful and systematic destruction of Africoid art has also occurred in the Americas, Asia and India: Inscriptions and hieroglyphics are defaced or bleached, noses are shot off or chiseled down, confusing nomenclatures are pasted over the evidence, photos are taken from misleading angles or filters, and some evidence is outright destroyed. Europeans replaced the African inscriptions with new ones that credited themselves for the achievement.

I needed to repeat that because this is the problem with misinformation. This has always been and will continue to be. I guess Rock and Roll started with Elvis, or Rap with Eminem, in about 1000 years historians will claim that Martin Luther King Jr. was actually a white man. Mark my words.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 25, 2006 9:06 PM

There is no need to respond as I will not be checking back so you will be talking to yourself. I pity your ignorance and hope the truth seeks you out since you refuse to seek it. Peace and love!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 25, 2006 10:44 PM

Why all this arguing? The "whites invented this - blacks invented that" nonsense, at this point in time, is of little importance. The various species, (races), of humanoids will never see eye to eye. Each group should concentrate solely on trying to eliminate the other. Don't argue. Instead, kill them and be done with it! It won't solve the debate, but at least it will end the bickering.

Posted by: WTF? at March 26, 2006 5:28 PM

Here is another of her poems that I find to be delightfully retarded:

Even My F---ing Soup?

by Autumn Ashante

Honkey-ass crackers in my soup

Chad, Biff and Betty Boop.

Why'd you choose a black girl's meal?

Did you think I'd run? Did you think I'd squeal?

Try again mother-f***ers, I ain't leaving

Not so long as all you honkeys are breathing.

Damn right I'm angry, you want to know why?

Black history month is in February, what the f--- was wrong with July?!?

You know perfectly well my proud African brethren hate that white snow on the ground

That was just one more ploy to hold us down.

White, white, white

Everywhere I look... white.

The milk in my cereal is white and so are these here soup noodles

And don't even get me started on those yippee-ass poodles.

The French flag, all the presidents and Michael Jackson's nose

As well as the dots on my beloved Dominoes.

The clouds and the stars and the whites of my eyes

I'll be painting them all brown... you better recognize.

Posted by: mosmike at March 28, 2006 10:14 PM

I was reading comments from here and from another site and there was one that really ticked me off. On March 22, Kelara Ford wrote:


"I think this is a very sad tragedy. In the year of 2006 people still don’t want to hear the truth about the history of blacks in America. Possibly because then they might have to feel responsible. I hope a petition surfaces regarding this issue. The school involved needs a serious wake up call. You can’t silence the truth forever. The truth will prevail!"


First things first. I believe that the marketing aspect of black history month has been successful in reaching to every corner of the earth. We know that the blacks were taken from their country and sold into slavery. We are aware of the history. Anyone that has access to a television, radio, newspaper, library or a computer in any part of the world is aware of what happened to the black people in the past. Everyone is made aware of it every "Black History Month" that there is. I, for one, do not agree with what people in the past (not just the whites) have done to each other. That is just how things were back then. That is NOT how things are now. The black race is not the only target in the world...I hate to inform you of this but you are not the only ones, nor will you ever be the only ones.
As far as the statement about us (implying the white race?) having to take some responsibility for the past: I don not, now will I ever take responsibility for someone else's actions! For anyone to imply this, is ludicrous! That is like me telling someone else(another white person), that they need to take responsibility for the death of Abraham Lincoln, just because he was white.


This is a very "touchy" subject and I think that it is only going to get worse. Peace cannot and will not ever be reached with "small minds" focused on the past and not the present. If I have offended anyone, I will not apologize. I am only being honest. We as a nation need to stand beside each other and support each other. Quit the finger-pointing and realize that no race owes another race anything! We are all humans at the core.


In leaving, I would like to quote a funny "liberal" comedian, George Carlin. " I've never owned a slave, or was a slave. I didn't wander fourty years in the desert after being chased out of Egypt. I haven't burned any witches or been prosecuted by the Turks and neither have you!"

Posted by: Beth (republican from NC) at March 29, 2006 1:25 PM

Don’t gimme dis shit! I live in Toronto Canada. 25 years ago dere wasn’t hardly a black man to be seen anywhere. Now da city has large black populations and da gun violence/shootings/gang killings are through the roof - young Niggas killing young Niggas! These people aren’t ‘oppressed’. It’s just Jamaican drug gangs killing each other for turf!

Posted by: Toronto Joe at March 29, 2006 7:07 PM

As I read more, I cannot believe how disgusted I had become. For those who attacked that little girl with such brutal words and statements really should look at themselves a bit more closely. If most of you think that her father is actually behind all of this, why should she, a very young girl who hasn't even hit double digits, have to be subjected to even more hatred from the people she was supposedly brainwashed to hate? This is not just ignorance that has been sparked in most people, but an inner fear. I ask of anyone: Is a little tolerance and acceptance for a plain individual too much to ask?


Is it really alright for someone presumably older than seven years to call a little girl of seven years old derogatory and insulting names such as a b**ch or a piglet?


Is it really alright express anger towards someone and wish it to end in death?


Or, is it sensible and fair to judge anyone? Anyone of any skin color, facial features, or any kind of distinction?


No, it's not. No person has any right to judge anyone. Most of that mudslinging that went on is definitely proof enough that people who buy into their being insulted personally by a little girl who is being fed into racist ideology or mainly Black Separatism to be even lower than what most think of her to be. Instead of combating it with insults and more hatred, try being a bit more mature about it. Don't look to stereotypes and all that other nonsense. Make an effort to blame one person for their transgression and not the whole race they came from.

Posted by: Elegance and magnificence of the new age. at March 30, 2006 7:01 AM

Has the little 7-yr old female black genius ever heard of the term "compassion?" I believe she is really ashamed of WHO she is if she enjoys attacking white folks on the simple matter of the color of their skin. Maybe she, and her dad, enjoy controversy and the limelight since the two of them obviously attract both!

Posted by: Clara Walters at March 30, 2006 4:43 PM

The problem is not with the ignorant colored father or the little black sambo,its the muslim religion the father ignorantly follows. More than likely after a stint in some prison. Anyways, the religion is to blame ,not many blacks understand the muslim religion fully and it is filled with ignorant teachings that a lot of blacks mix with their own teachings and paranoid rumours about the jews...kind of like voodou that they brought with them from africa,its the same thing,it's filled with several different religions...Maybe aiming a jet at a mostly muslim populated prisons would help. Oh yeah one other thing..how come the little negroid girl thinks that white people rob and steal all the time,black people make up most of the prison population and i don't think any white people made them commit any of the crimes their black asses commited...Peace out gangstas

Posted by: wraith at March 30, 2006 5:30 PM

Horrilbe commentary, it must come from the fact that your penis is as small as a ant. or that you think your better than some else cause you skin is bleached, the one thing that kills me about you dog smelling people that you are cowards . you wouldnt say any of these things in public or in the work place, but you get on the internet and air you profanity. GROW SOME BALLS, oh I forgot even if you did your dick whould stil be 2inches hard.... ROCK ON DUDE

Posted by: wraith at March 31, 2006 2:20 AM

Horrilbe commentary, it must come from the fact that your penis is as small as a ant. or that you think your better than some else cause you skin is bleached, the one thing that kills me about you dog smelling people that you are cowards . you wouldnt say any of these things in public or in the work place, but you get on the internet and air your profanity. GROW SOME BALLS, oh I forgot even if you did your dick would stil be 2inches hard.... ROCK ON DUDE

Posted by: wraith at March 31, 2006 2:22 AM

I see lot of people trying to sympathize this little girls statements to these white people on here, don’t do that, yes what the little girl said was ignorant , and the ideas where probably put into her head by her father, but you have GROWN PEOLPE on here stooping to the same level of racism that this seven yr old girl has degraded her self to. Now that is a shame, and what is shocking about it is that some of these people are not Clan members but every day working folks. IT just show me the same people I work with can be calling me a nigger behind my back. Also it show me that things haven’t really changed, it just more uncover now. TO the retarded white folks on here calling this little girl a bitch,you will get yours ,what comes around goes around. Secondly I see all of these commentary about the ills of the black community, what about your own, what about your children indulging in drugs like E, or sniffing glue, or going to schools killing students because they feel left out . you don’t want to talk about that huh, since you want to talk about blacks taking up the majority of prison cells ,who are the majority of the cereal killers. it is known that you hunkies have problems, first of all your cowards, secondly you have a fake superiority complex, it must have some thing to do with compensating for your dick size, third most of you are just plain weak. It’s know that you don’t deal with adversity well. So when you want to criticize some one else like some one said previously look at your self.

Posted by: wraith at March 31, 2006 2:49 AM

look what the little girl said was right, period , if you hunkies dont like it fuck you, end of story. Deal with it or get over it like oyu tell us.

Posted by: B.P.S.N at March 31, 2006 3:48 AM

look what the little girl said was right, period , if you hunkies dont like it fuck you, end of story. Deal with it or get over it like you tell us.

Posted by: B.P.S N at March 31, 2006 3:50 AM

Truthfully I dislike you peakerwoods anyway, I aint going to aruge with you despite what the little girl said, Fuck all white people .... thanks for letting me get my hate out it felt lovely.

Posted by: BlackStone at March 31, 2006 4:18 AM

Blackstone...why are you so racist? All "white people" are not "peckerwoods". Ignorance knows no color. What right do you have to categorize me and other people just because of our skin color. There is nothing that pisses me off more than someone screaming injustice and then turns around and does the same thing. Why the hate? I can't help that I was born in America. No one has the choice of skin color, parental upbringing, schooling...ect., but yet it is still the white's fault? For what are we responsible now? I would love to know what your "theories" about this one is. I have not done anything to you, so why the hate?
You want to know why the "white race" will not say anything to your face? As much as we would love to speak out in person about the prejudice and hate for our race (even after hundreds of years) we know that as soon as we do, Jesse Jackson, news crews and the police will be knocking on our doors. It is not fair that we don't have the same government backing as you do. Congradulations on the success of double-standard.
I have no problem with you or anyone else of your race...or of any race for that matter. I will not apologize for another person's actions regardless of race. I think that it is sad that no one can agree on anything when it comes to this. I aslo believe that had that 7yr old girl had been white, the media would have "crucified" her publically for it...more so than Ms. Ashante. For anyone to not know that is ignorant.
*If you feel need to respond to this...anyone...please refrain from cursing and name calling. Show some maturity. There is no need to show how bad the school systems are doing as far as education is concerned.

Posted by: Beth (republican from NC) at March 31, 2006 8:52 AM

Beth, thank you for revealling to everyone the truth behind the issue.
"Ignorance knows no color."
This is not a black vs. white issue. Anyone with wisdom can tell from reading the comments on this page that ignorance started this issue, and is keeping it going.
If this girl is truly as intelligent as her defenders say, so what. She does not have any true understanding of her statements. This same lack of understanding is evident in most of the postings I read. And despite the intelligent comments made, individuals, black and white, retaliate with ignorance. This issue has only proven one thing: Ignorant people cry louder and more often than those with enough sense to help the situation. This nation is not black, white, hispanic, asian, etc. We are a diverse people under the same name: AMERICAN... and we cannot even understand that we are not that different.

However, I'm sure that this arguement will continue by those without wisdom.

Posted by: An American at March 31, 2006 1:08 PM

To Beth: I never said anything about "it the white man fault " or that you owe me anything , read what I said before you respond. I said fuck white people period. That all I said , and from reading what most whites have had to say about this issue ,you cant blame me , calling a little seven yr old girl a bitch, thats foul. The way the most of the whites I have been in contact with smile in your face , but behind your back they have it always race. The treatment I have gotten fromm whites from childhood to this present day has been nothing but foul, first of all most of the whites I've been in contact with think that they are superior to me ,for what because I'm a black young man from the hood. I go i'm currnetly in college, when I take my tests and score higher than one of my white counter parts they think it's amazing . Why ? why do you think ? so when I say things like this I speak from experience not out of what some one says "ignorance". Like I said previously Fuck white people or fuck the racist white peolpe for lack of a better word.

Posted by: BlackStone at April 2, 2006 11:57 PM

To BackStone: I did read what you had to write. Saying "F*** white people" includes me to a certain extent. That is why I responded the way that I did. I also did not blame you for anything. I was only stating my own personal views on the black and white issue that has been festering for years and years now. I do agree with you though. Calling a seven year old child, regardless of race is "foul". This is where the word "ignorance" comes into play. I would much rather use the word "stupid" but ignorant people do not know any better than what they will allow their small minds to process. This also comes from the old-school up-bringing.
I feel sorry that you have not had any good experiences with the white race. I am not apologizing for other people but it is sad that because of your treatment, it has caused you to see the world like this. There are good people in this world...whites too. I , of course, do not know where you are from but there are good "whites" in America. There are white communities that will give the shirts off their backs to someone in need...of any race. I was raised to believe that all people are equal in the eyes of God and that love knows no color. I am raising my son with these same values. I do not want him to grow up thinking that he is "superior" to anyone because of their skin color.
As far as your college goes, don't let the small-minds upset you. They are in their own little worlds where everything revolves around them. They never see the world as it really is...and probably never will. Keep your head up. I am proud of anyone that has the inner drive to accomplish dreams and make a better life for themselves. That, in my eyes, show great character if the person is continuing education for personal accomplishments.
One more thing before I go. Let's not just point out the racist whites on this subject. I believe that your statement should be "F*** ALL racist people" but to be very honest, we should pray that God will open the eyes of the ignorant and allow peace between our races. Let God judge those that he sees fit. No one here on this earth has that right. Leave these problems to Him to take care of and live your life the best that you can. Living with hate will not allow anyone to live a "truly" happy and fulfilling life. If you are not living your life to the fullest, without hate, then what reason is there for living?

Posted by: Beth (republican from NC) at April 3, 2006 9:58 AM

To BackStone: I did read what you had to write. Saying "F*** white people" includes me to a certain extent. That is why I responded the way that I did. I also did not blame you for anything. I was only stating my own personal views on the black and white issue that has been festering for years and years now. I do agree with you though. Calling a seven year old child, regardless of race is "foul". This is where the word "ignorance" comes into play. I would much rather use the word "stupid" but ignorant people do not know any better than what they will allow their small minds to process. This also comes from the old-school up-bringing.
I feel sorry that you have not had any good experiences with the white race. I am not apologizing for other people but it is sad that because of your treatment, it has caused you to see the world like this. There are good people in this world...whites too. I , of course, do not know where you are from but there are good "whites" in America. There are white communities that will give the shirts off their backs to someone in need...of any race. I was raised to believe that all people are equal in the eyes of God and that love knows no color. I am raising my son with these same values. I do not want him to grow up thinking that he is "superior" to anyone because of their skin color.
As far as your college goes, don't let the small-minds upset you. They are in their own little worlds where everything revolves around them. They never see the world as it really is...and probably never will. Keep your head up. I am proud of anyone that has the inner drive to accomplish dreams and make a better life for themselves. That, in my eyes, show great character if the person is continuing education for personal accomplishments.
One more thing before I go. Let's not just point out the racist whites on this subject. I believe that your statement should be "F*** ALL racist people" but to be very honest, we should pray that God will open the eyes of the ignorant and allow peace between our races. Let God judge those that he sees fit. No one here on this earth has that right. Leave these problems to Him to take care of and live your life the best that you can. Living with hate will not allow anyone to live a "truly" happy and fulfilling life. If you are not living your life to the fullest, without hate, then what reason is there for living?

Posted by: Beth (republican from NC) at April 3, 2006 10:01 AM

Best to just lynch all niggers and be done with it. Because, the only good nigger is a DEAD nigger, regardless of age.

Posted by: Billy Joe McDonald at April 4, 2006 8:13 PM

***Attention Everyone*** We finally have a racists in the room!
WTF Billy? You are no better than the blacks when they call us honkies! You have no right to say such things. Nice choice of words too, btw. It is always the ignorant and (what seems to be uneducated) that show their ugly faces by saying such things. Using the "N" word is very classy and shows your level of education and also what I see as mental competence. However, you do not speak for the whole race...but that is your opinion. Thank God for America! *rolls eyes*

Posted by: Beth (Repubican from NC) at April 6, 2006 6:55 AM

Beth I Appreciate the woeds of wisdom you gave me, ill keep that in mind.

Posted by: BlackStone at April 8, 2006 1:17 PM

Little Autum Ashante should be processed into dog food.

Posted by: Gene Roberts at April 8, 2006 7:46 PM

Have a nice day

Posted by: penis enlargement at April 18, 2006 1:53 PM

Why have terrorists when we slaughter each other? These back and forth posts are insulting and it makes me wonder if we will every come together as people.

I am an educated black women who has worked hard for everything I have. Affirmative action didn't get me where I am -- hard work and advanced education did.

We all have our faults. However, it is now time for us to move on, stop hating, and learn to live with one another.

Posted by: beenaroundtheworld at May 10, 2006 11:46 PM