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January 4, 2006

O'Reilly in Dave's Moonbat Cave

David Letterman has a gift for smirking and acting cute, but intellectual debate with anyone sharper than a movie star is clearly not his forte, as Bill O'Reilly made clear by walking into his cave of moonbats last night. It doesn't seem O'Reilly won over the studio audience, but he certainly made it clear that Letterman was correct to say, "I'm not smart enough to debate you point to point."

To give an idea of the caliber of people O'Reilly was subjecting himself to, before he appeared, Letterman stirred a pencil around in his guest's coffee; then the audience laughed when O'Reilly drank from it (the Political Teen has video of this sordid scene).

NewsBusters has a transcript of the following conversation, as well as more video (hat tip: Bergbikr).

The transcript doesn't include Letterman's haughty dismissal of the war on Christmas, but does feature his appalling devotion to perhaps the most contemptible human being in public life, the woman who embraced her own son's killers in an attempt to trade his honor for 15 minutes in the spotlight, Mother Moonbat herself, Cindy Sheehan.

"How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?" wondered Letterman, in all seriousness.

O'Reilly took issue with Sheehan's characterization of Islamic terrorists as "freedom fighters." Letterman responded by righteously declaring that he didn't understand what the war was about and quickly returned to wondering how anyone could fail to join him in his worship of Saint Cindy:

See, I'm very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ.

The audience ate it up. Letterman then worked some more applause from the crowd by asserting that 60 percent of what his guest was saying was crap. He followed this by accusing O'Reilly's show of not being objective, before being forced to admit to not having watched it.

It was like watching a dim-witted child try to make fun of an adult in front of his even dimmer-witted friends.

Blaming David Letterman for being a jerk and a fool would be like blaming a frog for being slimy. But shouldn't his handlers know enough to keep anyone with an IQ above 80 off his show?

Letterman shows his audience how to slap their hands together whenever he says something fatuous.

Posted by Van Helsing at January 4, 2006 9:52 PM


I couldn't agree more.....very very disappointed in Dave for being such a deluded liberal idiot!!

Posted by: Albertanator at January 4, 2006 11:42 PM

Me and Wife watched this, and Wife was ...what's that clown cop from 'Casablanca'? "Shcocked, shocked!" when I tossed a pillow at the television, deriding Dave for being an uninformed dick.

"But you said you hate O'Reilly?" she said.
"Yeah, but Letterman's talking right out his ass. That crazy bitch DID say that shit."

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at January 5, 2006 4:53 AM

One can dislike O'Reilly for being a pompous bloviator. And sometimes he takes things a bit too far. But it's hard to argue with him. Letterman simply ain't that bright.

We went to the Letterman show once and were told before the show that he liked the room temperature fairly cool so we would just have to deal with it. It was 50 friggin' degrees in there! We couldn't enjoy the show for shivering convulsively.

Posted by: Von Oyster at January 5, 2006 5:53 AM

It's important to bear in mind that with the possible lone exception of Craig Ferguson, whose personal politics are fuzzy just yet, these talk show people are all part of the NYC/L.A. superleft scene with the MSM people and the movie people. They socialize together, they visit each other in the Hamptons, they have end-of-day drinks together in Manhattan. They are totally insular, arrogant, and constantly validating each other both privately and through their on-the-air behaviors.

Anybody in the MSM who does not participate in the leftist herdthink, like O'Reilly, will be excoriated.

O'Reilly might rub some viewers the wrong way but he does deserve enormous credit for staying out of the herd, hard to do in that vicious business of MSM, and for possessing independent thought process, which the leftist herd are entirely lacking.

Posted by: Laura at January 5, 2006 7:58 AM

OT: Does Lileks Read Van Helsing?

It goes without saying that selling anti-Christian iconography to European fashionistas is a brave an act as reducing the food pellet allotment to your pet hamster; a true act of bravery would be yanking the dead wildebeest out of a lion’s mouth. Or selling jeans that have the international cross-and-bar NO symbol over the crescent of Islam.

Where did I read this before?

Posted by: V the K at January 5, 2006 9:28 AM

Another nagging thought:

Letterman's guests on his show are exactly that - guests. Does he stir pencils or other objects (do let your imaginations run by all means) in the beverages of guests in his homes?

Maybe so, if they are not leftists.

Although, he probably wouldn't have non-leftists as guests in his homes.

That was one low-class action from a so-called "elite".

Posted by: Laura at January 5, 2006 11:02 AM

Of course, around six times as many people watch Letterman on an average night (12 million) than watch O'Really on a really good night (fewer than 2 million).

And how many times has Bill visited the troops in Iraq? He seems to think it's too dangerous. Dave doesn't.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at January 5, 2006 12:49 PM

RR, re the numbers... and your point was what? Heck, to me that doesn't say a whole lot about 12 million folks who simply want to be entertained. At least O'Reilly (at a completely different time slot, mind you) decimates his competition, plus offers political discussion and intellectual stimulation -- something for which Dave (by his own admission) and most of his gleeful, kool-aid-sipping audience (by observational evidence) are not very well equipped.

Oh, and Pope Benedict XVI hasn't visited Iraq either. Nor has Ward Churchill nor Al Franken nor Michael Moore. In fact, Kofi Annan and the UN have avoided Iraq like the plague. Again, your point was...?

Posted by: The MaryHunter at January 5, 2006 5:13 PM

R.R. - do point me to where O'Reilly has said it's too dangerous. Let's have some links and verification with those fries. I'm willing to read it. That order's to go, thanks, make it quick.

And point me to where Letterman has done it out of any altruistic motivations. i.e.,other than good p.r.

Besides, if I were sittin' in the sands of Iraq I'd rather see O'Reilly anyday than Letterman.

*hands R.R. a dictionary for those tough words such as altruistic*

Posted by: Laura at January 5, 2006 5:15 PM

And this just reinforces the reasons why I don't have cable television anymore.

I detest Dave Letterman and have always disliked his fawning and butt kissing, but this is beyond contempt.

Bill O'Reilly's show is 'biased?' And Letterman's treatment of O'Reilly was...kind?

Posted by: Cricket at January 5, 2006 5:55 PM


Sorry to burst your bubble, but Al Franken remains one of the most active USO entertainers out there--something of the "Bob Hope of the War on Terror."

He has made several trips to entertain the troops in both Iraq and Afganistan. He's constantly mentioned as a friend of the troops in DoD Press Releases, and he hosted a huge USO gala late last year to raise money to support the troops.

I was merely pointing out that O'Really is something of a "fair weather patriot." Willing to talk a good game -- but not really doing anything for the people he pays lip service to.

O'Really also repeated one of his "War on Christmas" lies on Letterman. The one that "political correctness" (that boogey man that led Rumsfeld to change the name of the War on Terror to "The Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism") made a school change the words to "Silent Night."

Truth is, the school was putting on a play that featured a song sung to the tune of Silent Night -- the play even had the word "Christmas" in the title.

60% -- no, O'Really's content is much, much higher.

As far as O'Really "decimating his competition" -- you must be kidding. He has the highest rated cable "news" program, but he doesn't even make the top 20 of cable programs. Spongebob and reruns of Law and Order "decimate" his ratings on a nightly basis.

In fact, local newscasts in several major markets have higer ratings than O'Really.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at January 6, 2006 12:35 PM

For a view of entertainment types who give more than lip service to the troops check out this article on the USO:

Al Franken, Robin Williams, & 50-Cent. But no Bruce Willis or Ah-nold (even though plenty of other governors have visited their troops in Iraq).

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at January 6, 2006 2:01 PM