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More name calling from the right.

Let's see, you've attacked war heros and mothers of people who've died defending this country.

And the left is unpatriotic how?

How's that little puppy ya been kickin'?

"Insurgent" of course is the euphemism the MSM uses to replace the word "terrorist" in the context of Iraq. After all, they can't call the terrorists terrorists and still maintain that fighting them has nothing to do with the War on Terror.

Bingo!

More name calling from the right.

So RC thinks it's impolite to refer to terrorists as "terrorists"? And you guys keep losing elections...how?

OT: Moonbat SLC Mayor calls for massive anti-Bush protest

Salt Lake City's Mayor Rocky Anderson used e-mail this week to call upon activists, Democrats and some of his top administrative staff for “the biggest demonstration this state has ever seen,” when President Bush appears before a national veterans convention Monday.

“There should be a collaboration of health-care-provision advocates, seniors, the (gay, lesbian and bisexual and transsexual) community, anti-Patriot Act advocates and other civil libertarians, anti-war folks, pro-Social Security advocates, environmental advocates, anti-nuclear-testing advocates, and anti-nuclear-waste-shipment-and-storage advocates,” the mayor wrote in the e-mail sent Friday.

In other words, the usual gang of socialist idiots, welfare sponges, and social parasites.

See you got another socialist fungus with comments by Randy... You have all the fun!

Who was it during the campaign talking about "unpatriotic" and "unAmerican" and "scumbags?" Oh yeah... I remember. It was Ketchup Lady, Teresa Heinz. And when she used "unpatriotic" and "unamerican" she said "I refer to the Vice President."

I couldn't bring myself to read the Frank Rich piece in the Times. Van, you must need a bath.

Perhaps Rich didn't read that other NYT columnist, Steve Vincent, who was recently killed in Iraq. I know Rich is a ChickenDove, so it's not likely he's ever been to Iraq. But Steve thought the use of the word "insurgent" to be another indication of the Orwellian doublespeak that prevents us from seeing who the real enemy is.

Steve Vincent died at the hands of what he described as "Paramilitary death squads"

See: http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/05.08.05.StevenVincent-X.gif

Not that your "Randy Case" would know anything about that story.

I think Randy's middle name is "Head"

'"Insurgent" of course is the euphemism the MSM uses to replace the word "terrorist" in the context of Iraq. After all, they can't call the terrorists terrorists and still maintain that fighting them has nothing to do with the War on Terror.'

Actually it's the term the U.S. military uses for insurgents. They use terrorist when they are dealing with a terrorist.

Insurgents are a different animal.

Terrorists attack civilians for political gain. Insurgents engage the military in open combat.

'Who was it during the campaign talking about "unpatriotic" and "unAmerican" and "scumbags?"'

Actually, those were all terms the Right used against Bill Clinton when he was President.

Keep kicking puppies, righties!

They use terrorist when they are dealing with a terrorist.

The MSM calling terrorists "terrorists"? Really?

Reuters policy on the word "terrorist"

Here is what Steven Jukes, Reuter's global head of news, wrote in a memo to his staff in an internal memo (made available to the world by media critic Howard Kurtz in the Washington Post): "We all know," he wrote, "that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and that Reuters upholds the principle that we do not use the word terrorist . . ."

"The MSM calling terrorists "terrorists"? Really?"

Wow, you can't tell the difference between the U.S. military and Reuters. Simply amazing!

A few weeks on Parris Island would snap you out of that funk!

The U.S. military uses the term "insurgent" to describe one type of fighter and "terrorist" to describe another. American reporters tend to use the term used by the military to be accurate.

Reuters, on the other hand, is a WORLDwide news agency with clients on both sides of the fight. It makes perfect sense not to write from one sides view or the other. They do not use "terrorist" nor do they use the term "freedom fighter." I'm unfamiliar with their stylebook, but they use a neutral term.

Call me craxy, but I say a guy who drives a car bomb into a group of children getting candy is a terrorist. When guys drive cars bombs into schools and police stations... they're terrorists.

Maybe Randy wants to call them "insurgants," or "minutemen" or "cuddle bears" or whatever the left wants, but to me, car bombs + civilian targets = terrorists.

The military also refers to those terrorists as "the enemy," but, of course, the media would never use that word... for various reasons.

As for Cindy Sheehan, she is actively rooting for victory on behalf of the people who killed her son, and giving the enemy encouragement to kill more mother's sons. Tell me again why I should lay off her?

Wow, you can't tell the difference between the U.S. military and Reuters.

Sure I can. I just operate better with the English language than with vague ambiguous pronoun usage. Funny that you even tried to defend Reuters for their "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" policy. Color me with the "not surprised" crayon.

Don't preach to me about Parris Island, moonbat. My dad was a proud Marine for 20 years, serving during Vietnam. Best of my knowledge, he never threw anyone's medals over a wall. But I digress...

Perhaps Head Case would like to verify that Republicans called Clinton "unpatriotic" or "unAmerican"

Anyone can do a simple Google Search to see those terms applied by SENIOR DEMOCRATS like Ketchup lady towards elected GOP officials.

Isn't is sad that the folks who can't WIN an election want the US to LOSE this war?

Dude, give it up!

The left has no argumentive stance other than name calling, and deflection when it comes to the WOT, War Heros, Mothers, Fathers, the economy, the environment..well..frankly every topic of importance or note.

This quote below is a prime example...

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More name calling from the right.

Let's see, you've attacked war heros and mothers of people who've died defending this country.

And the left is unpatriotic how?

How's that little puppy ya been kickin'?

You? Think? That is shocking, judging from all of the repetitive rhetoric on this page. I haven't seen a single original idea.

I haven't seen a single original idea.

Wow, no one's ever made a comment like that before. Did you think it up all by yourself?

"Call me craxy, but I say a guy who drives a car bomb into a group of children getting candy is a terrorist. When guys drive cars bombs into schools and police stations... they're terrorists."

OK, Craxy, your description is a terrorist. The military and the media don't refer to them as insurgents. "Insurgents" is used by the military to refer to the organized fighting and IED laying groups. Don't believe me? Go to the DoD website and read for yourself.

'Perhaps Head Case would like to verify that Republicans called Clinton "unpatriotic" or "unAmerican"'

SCUMBAG: You asked for it, you got it: Congressman Dan Burton (R-IN) called President Clinton "scumbag" in April, 1998: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/22/burton/

UNPATRIOTIC: George H.W. Bush called Mr Clinton in the 1992 campaign "unpatriotic" suggesting Clinton should disclose "how many demonstrations he led against his own country from a foreign soil." (a myth never proven by the right)--(Washington Post, Oct 9, 1992) http://www-tech.mit.edu/V112/N48/campaign.48w.html

UN-AMERICAN -- let's spread that around as Republican consultant Scott Reed chose to slander the next President of the US, when he called Senator Hillary Clinton's comments critical of President Bush "un-American" -- from the Washington Times, Dec 2, 2003: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031201-115114-7633r.htm

Wow, this is like shooting fish in a barrel!!!!!

"Don't preach to me about Parris Island, moonbat. My dad was a proud Marine for 20 years, serving during Vietnam."

Good for you dad. YOU still need to spend some time there your own self. I don't think the experience is inherited. When you've been through the training he -- and I -- have been through, maybe you'll respect the people really sacrificing for this war--the people in uniform.

Randy, since your facts didn't come from FoxNews or Rush Limbaugh, they can't possibly be taken as serious. Do you suppose that these war cheerleaders even care that 1800 plus soldiers have died in war that was blindly led? Or care?

I am told that six minutes into this video, Mother Moonbat refers to the terrorists who killed her son as 'freedom fighters.'

Maybe Frank Rich can start using that term.

Oh Robbie....get back on the pipe, dude.

YOU still need to spend some time there your own self. I don't think the experience is inherited. When you've been through the training he -- and I -- have been through, maybe you'll respect the people really sacrificing for this war--the people in uniform.

First of all, #sshole, you have no idea if my experience is inherited. My father is a REAL Marine, not some (a)faux-Marine or (b) self-hating Marine like you. I mean really, Head Case, I know virtually NO true Marine that defends a man like Clinton who wiped his #ss with the American flag while smoking dope with the Commies in Europe to avoid military service (since he openly loathed the military)...yet said "Marine" decries Bush for serving in a National Guard capacity as a "draft dodger"??

I have more respect for members of the military than you and your moonbat ilk will ever have...whether you served in the military or not. I'm painfully aware of what it's like for a father to be stationed overseas for over a year while growing up, wondering if he'll make it home. I'm very well aware of the financial sacrifices the family had to endure while he served the country he loved (the same one you bemoan simply because you don't like its commander-in-chief).

In short, I know what military life is like because I've lived it, #sswipe! As far as I'm concerned, my family and I served by proxy, and the Corps agreed...since they gave my MOTHER a plaque when my dad completed his 20th year and retired. Do you know which plaque I'm talking about, or did you bail before 20 years?

So don't you lecture me, you pretentious prick, about fidelity to the armed forces and the discipline it entails. I've experienced more than most folks in that regards, and no amount of "chickenhawking" rhetoric from you and your always-losing mindless moonbat ilk will ever change that!

Semper Fi, #uckwit!

V the K,

So you're against 'welfare sponges'?
Does this mean you're against corporate welfare?

OK then, you're ready to turn in your Republican Party affiliation.

Unless of course you are one of those knuckleheads who fall for that shell game about who's lazy and stealing your hard-earned tax money.
Here's a big hint: HE'S A CEO!!!!

Robert, you lying sack of sh*t. You don't know a damn thing about me or my politics, (for one thing, I'm not a Republican) so STFU.

If you want to talk corporate welfare, why don't you talk about all the billions in subsidies to Archer Danials Midland Tom Daschle tucked into the last bloated agriculture bill? Why don't you talk about the airline bailout (at taxpayer expense) arranged by Mrs. Airline Lobbyist Daschle?

Both parties dole out goodies for their contributors. Only a blind partisan shill would claim that only one side does it. Ot a liar. ("Only Republicans compare Bush to Hitler.")

As far as I'm concerned, my family and I served by proxy, ..........

(In really high pitched Jonathon voice) My dad was a Marine, so there! The only thing Jonathon has served is a pot pie to Grandpa. You sniveling little shit, you don't get respect or noteriety because your pops was a Marine. You deserve the Village Idiot plaque, for your ability to live vicariously through others.

"Nazi racists are right."
Posted by: Rob B. at August 15, 2005 08:54 AM "

I'm sorry, queerbait, but we should listen to you because...?

(a) You side with Nazi racists;
(b) Your inability to address points contained herein;
or
(c) Your advice works incredibly well when applied to real-world living.

Like I told you last time, asshole...go f#ck yourself and swallow jizz at a San Francisco bathhouse. How's THAT for your Village People...er, Idiot?

Life must suck to be a moonbat these days. Can't win for losing...

The sexual imagery is over the top, and unnecessary to make the point. Our Nazi racist supporter Robbie and his friend Headcheese are tossing out a variant of the "chickenhawk" fallacy, a moonbot tactic that's as tired and worn out as Madonna's... um, mouth...

The point of the chickenhawk fallacy is for moonbats to cut off a debate they can't win with facts and logic by saying that the other person's point of view on the war in Iraq is invalid unless that person served in the military. By extension of the chickenhawk fallacy, only uniformed cops are allowed to support law enforcement, only teachers are allowed to support education, and only people dumb enough to sit in a ditch in Texas in the middle of August should be allowed to support Mother Moonbat.

Actually, that third thing pretty much does describe the Sheehanistas.

You sniveling little shit, you don't get respect or noteriety because your pops was a Marine.

Really? Hmmmmm...I must not have read the plaque that they (that would be the Marine Corps, dimwit) gave to Mom which thanked her for her 20 years of sacrifice. Nah...the Corps didn't think she should get any notoriety for "Pops" being a Marine!

Then again, I'll take the "Thank you" from the United States Marine Corps anytime. I don't give a wet fart on a dry January Monday if a Nazi-sympathizing terrorist-loving socialist moonbat like yourself or Head Case agree or not.

Besides, I didn't "live vicariously" through Dad. I lived WITH him and experienced everything I mentioned above. Not that a dope-smoking, tree-hugging, unemployable, non-bathing, limpwristed, "salad-tossing", bigoted bastard like you would know the first damned thing about that level of sacrifice.

Like I said once before, you're an interesting museum piece, but I'm moving on from you, the "Piss Christ" exhibit, to the next one. As far as I'm concerned, your Marxist ass is dead to me.

This is like reading a transcript from FoxNews. I said once that the Nazi racists had some valid points concerning BuchCo, and now, I am a Nazi racist. Whatever.

I don't think one has to have necessarily experienced something to support it, however, claiming to "know the pain", or "feel firsthand" anything a soldier goes through because you know one is ludicrous. So I hit a homerun once in softball;does that mean I know what it feels like to be Kirk Gibson?

Jonathon really needs help addressing his homophobia. And I am supposedly a bigot? Nice try.

What the hell is "Piss Christ"? I prefer the "Buddy Christ".

By the way, I said YOU, not your MOM, get no noteriety via Dad. Let's not drag your mother into this, she still suffers from the plague that is you.

I said once that the Nazi racists had some valid points concerning BuchCo, and now, I am a Nazi racist.

Because any self-respecting right-winger, upon learning that Nazi racists shared his position, would have disassociated himself from those people and said, "I don't care if they agree, I don't want them on my side."

Your response, Robbie, was pretty much "Yea! The Nazis Racists are on my side! I have newfound respect for them."

You bought it, you own it. Deal with it.

"The point of the chickenhawk fallacy is for moonbats to cut off a debate they can't win with facts and logic by saying that the other person's point of view on the war in Iraq is invalid unless that person served in the military."

Wrong.

If you'll retrace the line of debate here, you'll find that it was someone else who accused my views of being invalid because HIS FATHER had served.

The "Chicken Hawk" argument is also valid. But you reposition it from it's true meaning. Chicken Hawks can have an opinion, but they lack military experience and should leave strategy and tactics to the military. And they shouldn't belittle people who actually serve any more than some hippie should spit on a man in uniform. Both are disrespectful.

And Jonathan -- such a way with words. Please see about having your Tourettes treated.

Jonathan, how can someone be both a Nazi and a Marxist?

That's a first since the two are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. Marxists are left wingers, Nazis are right-wingers.

Your response, Robbie, was pretty much "Yea! The Nazis Racists are on my side! I have newfound respect for them."

All that from, " except for #4, the Nazi racists are right." You guys are good at this whole "words in someone else's mouth" game.

Ja, people! How dare you use my own words, cleverly "quoted", against me? Never mind that they weren't words in someone else's mouth...they were words from mine own!

Irrelevant!

Zeig Heil!