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why not have Scientologists swear on L.R. Hubbard novels?

Hubbard figured it out perfectly. He said the best way to get rich in America was to start a religion.

Of course, given how excreable his novels were, he had to figure out some way to make a living.

Hubbard figured it out perfectly. He said the best way to get rich in America was to start a religion.....

Dubya has figured this out, too, albeit he didn't start the christian right; he merely exploited it.

As usual, the "state endorsement of religion" argument is a total sham........

Then why the constant struggle to seperate church and state, ala prayer in schools, the ten commandments in courthouses, and swearing on bibles to begin with?

Rob, could you please restate your thesis? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway, I think Muslims should swear on the Koran. They are unfit to touch our Bible, and doing so will cause us Christians to riot and burn down the closest falafel house while killing dozens. Really, isn't it more civilized for us to appease the blood lust inspired in others by petty transgressions.

I heard about this swearing on the faux bible thing on the radio this morning... It really cranks me off. America is a Christian nation. No more kissing the ass of these terrorists....

I'm starting a religion: Robism. In my religion, everyone worships Rob's Thesis as the Holy Book. Therefore, you have to place your hand on Rob's Thesis when swearing in. Everyone must be accommodating to this, my religion, lest I squalk to the ACLU.

Whoops, Rob has no thesis.

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I'm starting a religion: Tookusism. In my religion, everyone worships their own ass as the Holy Book.

There will always be those in our criminal justice system to whom a vow to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth doesn't mean a damn thing... cough... William Jefferson Clinton... cough, cough ... regardless of what they swear on.

The beauty of closed minded, intolerant christians. Jesus was a liberal.

Allow me to type s l o w l y . If there is no state endorsed religion issue, why do we need to swear on the bible, a christian publication? Why are the ten commandments in our courthouses? Again, a christian document. I have no issue with these things, personally, but don't say there is no endorsement going on.

On a side note, if Jesus had been slain via beheading, would christians need to wear shrunken Jesus heads?

The beauty of close minded, ignorant leftists. Jesus wouldn't have anything to do with todays "liberals."

Rob, you don't "need" to swear on a Bible - you can sign a statement, legally binding, that will accomplish the same thing if you are not Christian. I did exactly that last year.

The 10 Commandments were the first widely accepted, "concrete" if you will, laws. Why would one display laws in a court house? Hmmm... Why would there be a symbol of blind Justice with the scales if the US courts don't endorse ancient Roman polytheism?

An endorsement of state-sponsored religion would have to be something more direct, something implicit in the day to day lives of the public. If you were made to "cross" yourself before entering a courthouse, that would be an example. If you took communion before testifying, ditto. If you needed to be baptized to attend public school, that would be an example. Simply displaying the ancient laws is not.

You need to get a grip. I'm a deist and I can realize these things. You obviously have some issue with Christianity though you'll protest otherwise. How about exercising some of that "liberal" tolerance and enlightenment I hear so much about?

The examples you provide are obviously more overt, but, that doesn't negate the ones I mentioned. Why not just do away with the bible in a courthouse if you don't really need it? Are the ten commandments still binding? Even to christians? Thou shalt not kill, unless it is state sanctioned?

I do have issues with christianity. It seems to be the most frequent example of mixed messages by many of them.

Jesus, according to the bible as I understand it, spent most of his time helping the very people our government likes to promise much to, yet deliver little. He also had several instances of admonishing the greedy elitists and political figures that are pretty much what we have today, and the "christian coalition" has jumped onboard.

What would Ned Flanders do? The fact is, some people would have no problem perjuring themselves over their signature on a contract devised by a man, but they may think twice before condemning themselves to hell.

As for the Jesus thing - show me one place in the Bible where it said Jesus rode a bike naked and smoked weed?

They didn't have bikes, so he obviously did carpentry between bong hits. I bet all that walking in the heat killed his buzz, though.

Uhh, the bible is also devised by man. Anyway, Ned Flanders would rip off his ball sack before he told a lie. On the other hand, Homer could give a shit less what he is swearing on, as long as he gets to lie.